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Posted by Rinster on Feb-07-2006 09:52:

Question Trance Is Hypnotic Music?

is this true? well i must admit, whenever im walking outside and i have my mp3 player playing trance music, im in another world i mean i become arrogant and dont give a * about the people, is it because of the music?


Posted by diamondback on Feb-07-2006 11:11:

Hence the name, trance.


Posted by mr.anderson on Feb-07-2006 12:51:

quote:
Originally posted by diamondback
Hence the name, trance.

exactly,the music speaks for its name


Posted by Ian on Feb-07-2006 13:04:

not in the ways you're thinking. Real trance, going back to the days of Goa, was way more hypnotic than what we have now, it was hypnotic rather than uplififting. didn't have huge breakdowns, just melodies to tantalise the senses.


Posted by Light The Fuse on Feb-07-2006 13:50:

Trance Is Hypnotic Music?

its meant to be lol


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Feb-07-2006 13:54:

No, it's probably just because you're arrogant, and a prick.


Posted by masticateur on Feb-07-2006 14:08:

Sometimes.


Posted by thoughtlessjex on Feb-07-2006 14:10:

In fact, there is still hypnotic trance out there, generally in the form of psy and prog.

In fact, a lot of epic trance would be pretty hypnotic if it weren't for the forced breakdowns and melodies. Ligaya comes to mind.


Posted by Honzi on Feb-07-2006 14:21:

quote:
Originally posted by thoughtlessjex
Ligaya


Nah, it's not a bit hypnotising with or without the breakdowns. Modern trance music is about beautiful (well, sometimes, like Crystal Clouds imho) melodies, soft percs, while years back trance was really hard to listen, heavily entrancing and cold. Resistance D - Cosmic Love comes to mind. I mean, just listen to it, and see what will you imagine while listening.


Posted by Floorfiller on Feb-07-2006 14:22:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
No, it's probably just because you're arrogant, and a prick.



Posted by RebeL9 on Feb-07-2006 14:26:

good modern day hypnotic tune: SAMPLE


Posted by Ian on Feb-07-2006 14:28:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
good modern day hypnotic tune: SAMPLE


ah, one of my faves from the last year. pure bliss. And yes, compare that to 'the epic' stuff now, and you're way off. As said before, breakdowns make 'hypnotic' impossible.


Posted by Soliman on Feb-07-2006 14:33:

Whats the name of that song??? and are there any other song like it thanks alot for the sample


Posted by Ian on Feb-07-2006 14:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Soliman
Whats the name of that song??? and are there any other song like it thanks alot for the sample


chakra - opacity

check out john 00 fleming's white label republic album for more goodness


Posted by Soliman on Feb-07-2006 15:34:

Thx ian BTW love you avatar lol


Posted by Rinster on Feb-07-2006 16:37:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
No, it's probably just because you're arrogant, and a prick.


well thank you


Posted by mr.anderson on Feb-07-2006 18:01:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike:No, it's probably just because you're arrogant, and a prick.

quote:
Originally posted by bidor
well thank you

never mind him mate,that's what most of the users on this forum are like..sad really.


Posted by Ian on Feb-07-2006 18:04:

quote:
Originally posted by mr.anderson
never mind him mate,that's what most of the users on this forum are like..sad really.


coming from a guy who's advertising a forum, run by people who used to post here, and even took the 'ukta' name which is properly used to the uk section here


Posted by Rinster on Feb-07-2006 18:10:

quote:
Originally posted by mr.anderson
never mind him mate,that's what most of the users on this forum are like..sad really.


hehehe


Posted by Purple on Feb-07-2006 18:11:

Where did Trance originated?

Was it Goa?


Posted by Spirit5 on Feb-07-2006 18:25:

To me, epic and melodic trance with breakdowns is trancedent music, music that is heavenly, ethereal, euphoric, floaty...makes you feel outside yourself, uplifts your spirits, the feeling is almost more align with some new age and ambient music like Tangerine Dream, Jean Michel Jarre, Enigma, some Delerium, Enya etc.

Other forms of trance are more hypnotic, like goa and psy, as well as a good majority of the deeper, more rhythmic progressive, and the harder stuff like tech-trance and hard-trance. These can also be "trancedent" as well, but it depends on the artist, the feel of the music etc. This music is stuff that when dancing or listening to it, in a sense puts you in a trance.

Both of these are equally trance, and will put in a trance, just a different type of trance. While the epic and melodic stuff creates feelings of being in heaven, of floating, the goa, some prog, tech and hard stuff tends to create an altered state, similar to the epic and melodic stuff, but I guess in a more druggy, trippy way. It's kind of like taking ecstacy vs. LSD. I don't do drugs, but ecstacy is more of an upper, it puts you in a good mood at first (euphoria). Thats what the epic and melodic stuff tends to do. The other stuff like Goa/Psy, that is more LSD, it'll make you feel like your seeing things that aren't there, hallucinations. Thats just the way I see.


Posted by Rinster on Feb-07-2006 18:41:

here is some info i founds about trance,

As the name suggests, trance music aims for a hypnotic state with a combination of hard, up-tempo, four-on-the-floor beats, arpeggiated sequences, and euphoric, anthem-like refrains. While trance gained popularity at both underground clubs and raves, the movement proliferated in countries such as the U.K., Belgium, Holland, and Germany, in tandem with the rise of ground-breaking talent such as Art of Trance, Jam and Spoon, and Sven Vath. The style gained popularity and play in European clubs such as Ministry of Sound, Ibiza, and Cream. Meanwhile in India, in the coastal state of Goa, a form of electronic dance known as Goa, or psychedelic trance, arose alongside an international backpacking community. Live acts such as Infected Mushroom characterized the sound with abrasive, repetitive, 4/4 rhythms and winding acid loops. During the '90s, artists such as Sasha and John Digweed and hard-trance forefathers Pascal FEOS, DJ Scot Project, and Cosmic Gate helped trance diversify into different styles in the U.K., including progressive trance (synonymous with progressive house). New producers and remixers entered the fold of trance rather quickly with new forms and styles that embedded the melodic "epic" feel of the music style. Labels such as AM:PM, Manifesto, Perfecto, and Positiva Records championed the sound commercially and spawned the likes of U.S. producer and DJ Christopher Lawrence, who is today's leading U.S. trance DJ alongside trance empress Sandra Collins.


Posted by Spirit5 on Feb-07-2006 18:51:

I'de even add that the epic and melodic stuff seems to be more influenced by new age/ambient/prog rock groups/artists like Tangerine Dream, Jean Michel Jarre, some Mike Oldfield, Brian Eno, stuff like that, but with a much stronger, dancey beat. This is stuff that has been around since around 97 and 98.

The other stuff, the goa and psy, well that's been around longer (early 90s) but it's more influenced by traditional native and indian music and techno music, with maybe some influences from psychedelic rock and industrial. Prog seems to be influenced by electro, various styles of house and detroit and minimal techno as well, and hard trance and tech trance is definitely influenced by techno, acid and hard house and acid or hard techno, with some influences from others sub genres as well.

Listen to a classic Armin or Ferry set, vs. a Sasha and Digweed set, and you'll notice the difference in feel, sound and structure. There might be some similar tracks, but for the most part, it's different. But it's all trance. So it shows you there is not one right definition for trance music, trance is quite diverse. By the stuff you listen to and why you listen to it, it takes on a personal definition, as trance does different things for different people. I appreciate both, but I find myself being mostly drawn to the more epic and melodic stuff that puts you in a good mood (mostly instrumental, non-cheesey stuff mind you), because I feel like it is stuff I can connect with and listen to on a daily basis. Not to say I wont pop in a CD or buy a CD or MP3/Wav with the other stuff, I just have a passion for the melodies and feelings of epic/melodic trance.


Posted by mr.anderson on Feb-07-2006 20:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Spirit5
To me, epic and melodic trance with breakdowns is trancedent music, music that is heavenly, ethereal, euphoric, floaty...makes you feel outside yourself, uplifts your spirits, the feeling is almost more align with some new age and ambient music like Tangerine Dream, Jean Michel Jarre, Enigma, some Delerium, Enya etc.

Other forms of trance are more hypnotic, like goa and psy, as well as a good majority of the deeper, more rhythmic progressive, and the harder stuff like tech-trance and hard-trance. These can also be "trancedent" as well, but it depends on the artist, the feel of the music etc. This music is stuff that when dancing or listening to it, in a sense puts you in a trance.

Both of these are equally trance, and will put in a trance, just a different type of trance. While the epic and melodic stuff creates feelings of being in heaven, of floating, the goa, some prog, tech and hard stuff tends to create an altered state, similar to the epic and melodic stuff, but I guess in a more druggy, trippy way. It's kind of like taking ecstacy vs. LSD. I don't do drugs, but ecstacy is more of an upper, it puts you in a good mood at first (euphoria). Thats what the epic and melodic stuff tends to do. The other stuff like Goa/Psy, that is more LSD, it'll make you feel like your seeing things that aren't there, hallucinations. Thats just the way I see.

wow, l like that!! l agree,very much so!


Posted by mr.anderson on Feb-07-2006 20:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
coming from a guy who's advertising a forum, run by people who used to post here, and even took the 'ukta' name which is properly used to the uk section here

yeah,but come on, people on here are really rude& arrogant,you can't express your likes or opinions about the music/tunes that you like without them bashing you all the way


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