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Posted by dEsidEL on Feb-09-2006 00:05:

Read This! TTC fares rise again April 1



"The TTC has argued in the past that with riders covering more than 80 per cent of the cost of operating the TTC, it is by far the least-funded mass transit system in North America and one of the least-funded in the world."




i dunno about u guys.. but this is really starting to piss me off ..

what's even funnier is that when i was moving last fall and cleaning out my old garage, i found an old TTC system map dating back to 1971.. what was astonishing was the fact that it looked almost like it does today!!


waiting for RobbyG to weigh in on this one..

quote:


TTC fares rise again April 1

'I welcome the premier to ride in on his white horse and save us,' Moscoe says
Feb. 8, 2006. 05:37 PM
CURTIS RUSH
STAFF REPORTER THESTAR.COM

The TTC will raise fares across the board on April 1.

At a special meeting today, transit commissioners argued about how much to raise fares to cover a $16.5 million shortfall.

They decided a cash fare would go up 25 cents from $2.50 to $2.75, tickets and token would increase 10 cents to $2.10 from $2 each and the cost of a monthly Metropass would climb a dollar to $99.75 from $98.75.

The only way to avoid the increases would be if Premier Dalton McGuinty intervened with more provincial money.

�I welcome the premier to ride in on his white horse and save us,� said TTC chairman Howard Moscoe, who apologized to riders after saying city council's budget committee was responsible for the increases.

Councillor Jane Pitfield, who has announced she is running for mayor, argued against the increases.

�We have to stand up for the riders,� she said. �This is taking the easy way out,� she continued, adding that money to cover the shortfall could have been found by making cutbacks in selected areas.

Moscoe insisted that he wasn�t prepared to make cuts to marginal routes. He added that the increases would cost the average TTC rider about $60 more a year.

Some commissioners had tried to defer the meeting, arguing there wasn�t enough time to prepare. The meeting was called on 24 hours� notice.

The two-hour meeting featured heated debates.

TTC general manager Rick Ducharme argued for an increase of between 15 and 20 cents for tickets and tokens but Moscoe wanted to hold the increase to 10 cents.

The 10-cent fare increase will net the transit commission $9 million.

Last year, tickets and tokens went up by 10 cents, to $2 from $1.90, while the cash fare rose to $2.50 from $2.25.

A fare hike became inevitable after city council�s budget committee recommended limiting the taxpayer subsidy for the TTC to $246.3 million.

While that is a 7 per cent increase from 2005, the TTC was looking for a 2006 subsidy of $263 million, citing a $27 million increase this year in fuel costs and $25 million more for negotiated wage hikes.

The TTC has argued in the past that with riders covering more than 80 per cent of the cost of operating the TTC, it is by far the least-funded mass transit system in North America and one of the least-funded in the world.

Last year, for the first time in years, the TTC drew more riders (430 million) than anticipated (424 million) but service didn�t keep up with demand. The service level has been the same since 2001, when ridership was forecast to be 420 million.

For 2006, ridership is expected to top 437 million and is on its way back to its 1988 peak of 463 million.

With files from Star staff



source:
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...ol=968793972154


Posted by Minhaj on Feb-09-2006 00:17:

oh....fuck me up the ass









EDIT: btw where the FUCK are the new buses?


Posted by drgoodvibe on Feb-09-2006 00:38:

$1 more for a metropass.. i'm a-Ok.


Posted by Fir3start3r on Feb-09-2006 01:19:

quote:
Originally posted by drgoodvibe
$1 more for a metropass.. i'm a-Ok.


+1


Posted by dEsidEL on Feb-09-2006 01:24:

quote:
Originally posted by drgoodvibe
$1 more for a metropass.. i'm a-Ok.




i need to scam a student (uni/college) metropass..


Posted by Orko on Feb-09-2006 01:29:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL


i need to scam a student (uni/college) metropass..



there is no discount for uni/college students, only high school. We pay adult fares.


Posted by dEsidEL on Feb-09-2006 01:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
there is no discount for uni/college students, only high school. We pay adult fares.




u sure? i paid a discounted price for the adult one when i was studying at Ryerson and someone i know just confirmed this for me ..


Posted by Little John on Feb-09-2006 01:33:

What is the TTC?


Posted by smuncky on Feb-09-2006 01:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
there is no discount for uni/college students, only high school. We pay adult fares.



i dont know where u go man, but ur getting ripped off then.

i pay $87 for my pass every month. and they told us last week, that the univ's are in talks with the ttc for a new plan, where u pay $500 up front at the beginning of the school year and u get a pass every month for 8 months i think. comes out to aroudn $62


Posted by Orko on Feb-09-2006 02:31:

wtf, what do you have to show to get a student discount? I just started buying the metro pass like 2 months ago...

I thought that the TTC student ID was only for high school students, and lower.


Posted by smuncky on Feb-09-2006 02:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
wtf, what do you have to show to get a student discount? I just started buying the metro pass like 2 months ago...

I thought that the TTC student ID was only for high school students, and lower.



they should have them at ur student campus center


Posted by baystreetboi on Feb-09-2006 02:35:

Only certain universities / colleges are eligible for the discounted student metropass if they can guarantee a certain number of them will be purchased.

(Essentially bulk discounts)


Posted by iLiptikalOrbitZ on Feb-09-2006 02:52:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL


u sure? i paid a discounted price for the adult one when i was studying at Ryerson and someone i know just confirmed this for me ..



Same, at Humber we get discounted Monthly Metropasses @ $88.


Posted by dEsidEL on Feb-09-2006 02:54:

quote:
Originally posted by smuncky
they should have them at ur student campus center




+1

talk to them .. it's the adult metropass sold at a discounted price.. infact if any of u go to an eligible school and don't take the TTC.. i m seriously trying to look for one and could use the help


Posted by naillil on Feb-09-2006 02:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
wtf, what do you have to show to get a student discount? I just started buying the metro pass like 2 months ago...

I thought that the TTC student ID was only for high school students, and lower.


I know that at UofT they sell them at the Student Admin Council Office.

It doens't work like the highschool student pass (where you show them your student card, get a special TTC student ID and buy student tokens)

It only works for metropasses (not individual tokens)which you have to get them from your school. Also, it looks like a reg. metropass - you just buy it at a discount.


Posted by naillil on Feb-09-2006 02:56:

BTW - this fare hike is BOGUS!! WTF?!?!

I don't even use the TTC regularly and I'm even outraged!

Our transit system is totally lacking compared to other around the world.

And don't even get me started on Mississauga transit either


Posted by smuncky on Feb-09-2006 03:17:

w00t go YRT/VIVA!!


Posted by smuncky on Feb-09-2006 04:06:

btw, check this out






quote:
New Subway Design in 2009? Public Consultation This Year


During the January meeting of the Toronto Transit Commission, Commissioners were treated to a Powerpoint presentation on possible designs for new subway cars to be bought for 2009-2010. The TTC is looking to replace 234 aging cars and its representatives paid a visit to four properties in Hong Kong and China to see how six-car trainsets with �wide inter-car open gangways� operated. The visit seems to have TTC planners leaning towards bringing in six-car articulated trainsets into the fleet. By allowing passengers access to the whole train, the TTC not only cuts the cost and complexity of its trainsets (by reducing the number of cabs available), but it increases the train-sets� capacity, allowing crowds to distribute more evenly through the whole train.


The TTC hopes to issue a request for proposals this month, to be followed up with a website inviting public comment on the possible new designs by April. A full-scale mock-up for public viewing could be available by June, with a contract awarded this October. The pictures you see here are an artist representation of what the mock-up might look like.

One comment that I�m sure is going to be made is the lack of forward-facing seating. This was a strong complaint when the original mock-up of the T1 car was produced. The TTC argues that perimeter (side-facing) seating allows the cars to carry more people during crush loads, and makes the cars easier to navigate and thus to evacuate in an emergency, but many people find side-facing seats uncomfortable inducers of motion sickness. It will be interesting to see if the TTC considers these complaints when the public gets its first look at the new cars� mock-up.

These pictures were made available by transit enthusiast and activist David Fisher



http://transit.toronto.on.ca/index....=subway&id=5006


Posted by Orko on Feb-09-2006 04:11:

quote:
Originally posted by baystreetboi
Only certain universities / colleges are eligible for the discounted student metropass if they can guarantee a certain number of them will be purchased.

(Essentially bulk discounts)


Ok I know large companies also do this. My room mate works for a company which gets him a discounted pass, but he has to buy it 2 weeks before hand.


Posted by StereoPrincess on Feb-09-2006 04:13:

this is horse shit.

they raise the price 200 times a year.


Posted by Fir3start3r on Feb-09-2006 04:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
wtf, what do you have to show to get a student discount? I just started buying the metro pass like 2 months ago...

I thought that the TTC student ID was only for high school students, and lower.


u arnt teh smrts....go 2 collej...


Posted by Orko on Feb-09-2006 04:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
u arnt teh smrts....go 2 collej...


ehy! we already determined its only certain school, so im not totally stupid.

"I am so smart, I am so smart, SMRT...I mean, SMART"


Posted by Sly_Guy on Feb-09-2006 05:06:

yeah it's rediculous already. A metropass isn't even worth the use of to work and back once a day for a month anymore.

The service is overcrowded, undermaintained, and essentially too small in scope to adequitely service the city.

I'm a huge supporter of doing anything that will expand our subway system, increase bus route, and fix the failing infrastructure. I don't care if the rates go down or not, but the people at all levels of government have to get their shit together and fix our public transit. God knows our highway system is even worse making Toronto 0/2 on these critical things.

Too bad the PC won the election, now we're stuck with no representation in the federal government, and as a result our needs will probably fall on deaf ears. But like the analysts say 'as Toronto goes, so does Canada...'


Posted by DigDeep on Feb-09-2006 13:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Little John
What is the TTC?


Posted by naillil on Feb-09-2006 14:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorwhore

quote:
Originally posted by Little John
What is the TTC?



Take The Cash..... AND RUN!


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