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Posted by Blake613 on Jan-19-2002 16:26:

King My Turntable Setup (pics)

(2) SL-1200M3D Turntables
(2) Ortofon Night Club S Cartridge Set with Extra Stylus
(1) Vestax PCV-275
(1) Sony MDR-V6



Note: Cat sold separately

Now I'm learning how to beatmatch. I can get the two records to the same tempo and can have them match for 3-5 seconds. Then one starts to drift away from the other and I don't know how much pitch, or which record to adjust the pitch of. Is it a matter of millimeters? half an inch adjustment? I will be practicing this more and more.


Posted by Luke Terry on Jan-19-2002 16:52:

Cool

cool, beatmatching just takes time and practise, no one can tell u how really, just relax

I'd get a table 4 ur gear, static can b natsy on a carpet.
BTW, nice gear


AND WHERE DID U GET THOSE SLIPMATS, I've been lookin 4 those 1s 4 ages, i hav the technics 1s with 1 white technics logo on them


Posted by Great Outdoors on Jan-19-2002 16:54:

Drunk Wow

Very decent decent indeed! Those babies must have cost a ton.

"Galloping" beats from an incoming track is pretty common, I would say. If the incoming record seems to be galloping a little faster, try dimming the pitch of that one a little slower as you're just about to mix it in, and vice versa.


Posted by Blake613 on Jan-19-2002 17:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Project T
AND WHERE DID U GET THOSE SLIPMATS, I've been lookin 4 those 1s 4 ages, i hav the technics 1s with 1 white technics logo on them


They came with my tables.


Posted by Luke Terry on Jan-19-2002 18:22:

Cool

where did u get ur dex from?


Posted by dazzed on Jan-19-2002 18:26:

dude you have the EXACT setup as mine!!
I upgraded the styli to the nightclub E and i have technic 1200RPDJ headphones.. but same mixer, same cartrige and tables!! nice choice.

re those slipmats.. yah they come w/ the tables but my friend told me they arent that great a quality and had me buy new ones.. i if he knew what was up tho cuz i was just beginning.

dazzed


Posted by dazzed on Jan-19-2002 18:33:

oh yah and some tips on beat matching.. that happens to all of us. unless you have a REALLY trained ear (some of the pros id imagine).. when you beat match a record after 10 or so seconds the match is going to start to drift. this is especially commom when your matching very different beats (not the standard quick clena thump). it's hard to tell whats exactly matched.. if your doing a quick track switch (10secs or less) this is ok.. if you want to make it a nice progressive slow change thatll last like 30 secs.. your gonna need to match up the beats, then just throw em both in your headphones and listen for 15+ secs to see which track is slower or faster. then adjust the pitch i'd say 1/10 of an inch to correct, and repeat. this takes time so if u wanna do a slow change plan ahead.. you won't be able to get the match perfectly at the last second when your record is about to end... atleast i can't.

dazzed


Posted by drinkyourmilk on Jan-19-2002 18:41:

how well can the cat mix?


Posted by DJ LIQUID on Jan-19-2002 21:15:

Re: My Turntable Setup (pics)

quote:
Originally posted by Blake613
(2) SL-1200M3D Turntables
(2) Ortofon Night Club S Cartridge Set with Extra Stylus
(1) Vestax PCV-275
(1) Sony MDR-V6



HAHAHAHA

My friend has the same setup

course huge speakers too but i gott say NICE SET


Posted by harcourt on Jan-19-2002 23:50:

quote:
Originally posted by dazzed
your gonna need to match up the beats, then just throw em both in your headphones and listen for 15+ secs to see which track is slower or faster. then adjust the pitch i'd say 1/10 of an inch
dazzed


I'd avoid getting into that habit of listening to both the cue and the live record at the same time through your headphones. It is useful, and easier, but not all mixers have a split cue (which is providing that ability). If you ever get stuck with mixing without a split cue, you'll be screwed as accomplishing what you're trying to do without a split cue is much harder and you need to train your ears much more, the split cue is the easy way out.


Posted by dazzed on Jan-20-2002 00:29:

i was talking about feeding them both.. ie sending the mixed output to the headphones...

are you referring to the same thing?

dazzed


Posted by DJTJ on Jan-20-2002 17:21:

quote:
Originally posted by dazzed
if your doing a quick track switch (10secs or less) this is ok.. if you want to make it a nice progressive slow change thatll last like 30 secs..


Dude, 30 seconds is a short mix! The melody on most tracks doesn't cme in till at least a minute after the beginning of the track, and you don't want to be mixing plain beats which you would be with 30s mixes. You should be aiming to keep it in the mix for at least a minute.


Posted by Viceroy on Jan-20-2002 17:31:

Dude!...do you spin while sitting on the ground?

Peace,
Steve


Posted by dazzed on Jan-20-2002 17:31:

cool page. im reading now


Posted by dazzed on Jan-20-2002 18:50:

dude put a bowl of catfood on the platter at 45rpm and see what the cat does


Posted by harcourt on Jan-21-2002 04:35:

quote:
Originally posted by dazzed
i was talking about feeding them both.. ie sending the mixed output to the headphones...

are you referring to the same thing?

dazzed


Ok, that is possible, but I was under the impression you meant while your matching up the cued record, throw it and the playing record into your headphones to see if they are aligned or not. If that is what you mean, then yes, that is a split cue, you have both the master output and the cued record playing in the cue at the same time.


Posted by dazzed on Jan-21-2002 04:39:

yah i don't personally like split cue much. its easier to just listen through speakers. split cue could come in handy if the system has a bad delay tho


dazzed


Posted by quddha on Jan-21-2002 05:38:

uhm, the way i understand it is, split cue means you have the cue'd track in one ear, and the live output in the other ear.

another way is blend, where you have both cued and live in both ears, and you can fade between the cued track and the live output...

thats the way the split/blend works on my mixer, i don't use split... but i use blend alot, cuz monitoring from speakers has echo and stuff its harder to get it precisely matched..


Posted by Dave_Masters on Jan-21-2002 19:40:

Man your just starting to learn how to mix and you have these?

You win the lottery?

jeeze, what i would do for those decks.



BTW your mixes will sound proper shite if you do learn about

4/4 beats and cue points. I didnt know nout about them for the first 6 months of my mixing, and i got my beatmatching great, but it was untill i learnt the art of cue points that mixing came together.

But one step at a time. Beatmatching then cue points. Then comes the equalizer... when fading in the tune, having the bass turned out on the equaliser will sound alot better, with the percusion of the tune still going. On cue points fade in some more bass, and take some out of the other tune. This is how to perfect your mixing though. Stupid of me really when ur just starting .

O well.

Regards.


Posted by keke on Jan-22-2002 02:06:

How much did u spend on these equips ??


Posted by Blake613 on Jan-22-2002 04:04:

(2) SL-1200M3D Turntables
2x $479.99
(2) Ortofon Night Club S Cartridge Set with Extra Stylus
2x $129.99
(1) Vestax PCV-275
$389.00
(1) Sony MDR-V6
1x $69.99

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$1,678.95 US


Posted by RavingLunatic on Jan-22-2002 20:06:

i wish i had that much money!

in canadian $, that's about... hmm carry the one, plus 2.. uh..
8 billion dollars! i'm never gonna get my decks!

no seriously... it's only $2707.98
fuck what a difference. and that's with the vestax mixer. if i want my DJM600... probably well over $3000

*groan*


Posted by quddha on Jan-23-2002 00:06:

quote:
Originally posted by RavingLunatic
i wish i had that much money!

in canadian $, that's about... hmm carry the one, plus 2.. uh..
8 billion dollars! i'm never gonna get my decks!

no seriously... it's only $2707.98
fuck what a difference. and that's with the vestax mixer. if i want my DJM600... probably well over $3000

*groan*


haha guy, its not the euqipment that'll kill you, its the records... we're looking at $17 cdn a piece.. incl. taxes and shipping if u order from out of town, plus customs...


Posted by _Nut_ on Jan-23-2002 16:45:

Smoking ..umm..something My Vice

If only mixing wasnt my vice. I dont even know how much i have spent over the past 5 years on plastik, but once I hit the cross over from hip-hop to trance, I went nuts buying new wax and trying to get rid of the old junk. I have probably spent well over 7 grand USD in the last 5 years.

Ah well. Life is Trance and i love life.

Cheers


Posted by mute79 on Jan-23-2002 16:50:

yea, but you shouldnt really look at how much it costs... if its something you love doing, why put a price on it?
and that djm600 mixer is like 2 grand canadian... fuck it, not worth it for home use


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