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Question about Psy Trance
I doubt that I am the only one with this question.
What is the go with all Psy Trance artists using those shitty sounding zappy kick drums that have hardly any bass in them?
This question belongs in the "CoR".
Re: Question about Psy Trance
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| Originally posted by meneedit I doubt that I am the only one with this question. What is the go with all Psy Trance artists using those shitty sounding zappy kick drums that have hardly any bass in them? |
Most of the older more goa-oriented stuff uses bassy kicks. But that 'thin' kick used in alot of full-on psy just fits in with the rest of the sounds they use, and it adds to the whole "plastic" sound.
You get used to it, I actually found it hard to get into psy due to the percs at first but it does grow on you. Some of the kicks that are used are too clicky though, it gets to the point where it doesn't even sound like a kick anymore.
i think you are refering to the israeli full on sound?
I agree that alot of the full on can become boring after a while. especially because most producers use almost exactly the same basic basslines.
but check out older goa and psytrance to discover very powerful and banging stuff
blame GMS!
If you are having trouble getting into Psy just by listening to sets and tracks then I definitely recommend experiencing it in a club. It's an entirely different experience!
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| Originally posted by DOOMBOT If you are having trouble getting into Psy just by listening to sets and tracks then I definitely recommend experiencing it in a club. It's an entirely different experience! |
Re: Question about Psy Trance
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| Originally posted by meneedit What is the go with all Psy Trance artists using those shitty sounding zappy kick drums that have hardly any bass in them? |
It sounds fucking awesome. That's why.
Because it PSY. And it is supposed to twist and wash your brain like dirty socks, then hang it out outside when it's freezing, and let the water sublime.
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| Originally posted by ChoBo blame GMS! |
the psy i listen to goes whack 
cause were all on drugs?
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| Originally posted by Allied Nations Hey, I saw him a couple of weeks ago, and he played an amazing show. Click link in sig for pics... Fun psy! Not great psy, but fun nonetheless! |
fat bass
Check out my mix cd in the dj section. It�s far away from the psy-mainstream. Fat, rolling basslines and a rather dark atmosfear.
Check out the artists from sweden (oerebro)or finland. Their sound is much deeper than the isratrance everyone knows.
Or download this free promo with acts from Norway:
http://www.phobium.net/yggdrasil/
Tell me what you think later.
Cheers!
junction
The thread about my mix is here:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=324519
This snappy kick of which you speak is what makes psy unique. From the very first day my friend introduced me to psy, that is the one thing that always stood out to me. I personally love that snappy kick sound along with the amazing basslines characterized by full on psytrance. There is nothing better than a well made full on psytrance song for getting the blood flowing and the body dancing IMO.
On a side note, I saw J00F the other night at a mainstream club where his whole set was pretty much full on psytrance. Most people had never heard this sound before but the place was going crazy. I had to sit back and smile. 
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| Originally posted by tactik I've often wondered about this. These kick drums are the reason I'm probably never gonna lika psy. |
actually a thick, meaty, digital, propah bassy thump is one of the reasons i love psy trance, over most hard house and some hard trance which seems to have more of a metallic clang kick drum to it.
First off, there are about a zillions styles of kick used in psytrance. psy progressive, dark and a lot of techno psy (wizzy noise, Xerox & Illumination) use different kicks to what your referring to. But since your referring to the low cut kick, I'l assume you mean full-on.
If you stop to think about it, it makes sense. Psytrance is more rhythm driven than commercial trance, which is essentially based around long 32-64 bar melodies with little enphasis on the bassline once the actual melody takes over. Full-on psytrance however is built around the bassline with shorter riffs rather than long melodies. Hence for the bassline to be clear and unmudied especially on large sound systems, the kick needs to be cut lower than with club trance to allow the basslines to do their stuff. Also, there is a lot more going on with psytrance in terms of fx. Again, by cutting the kicker higher (sometimes around 100Hz) it allows for greater headroom in the mix and generally a clearer sound overall.
All of this doesnt mean shit unless it actually sounds good, so I would suggest going somewhere to hear it loud unough for the intended effect. The clarity you'll hear in a psy bassline due to the thinner kick will blow you away. Not only that, but the kick itself is largely undistorted or 'boomy' and sounds anything but thin. Definately catch Infected Mushroom if you can as they have pretty much based their productions around this idea.
Psytrance
The best way to experience psytrance is OPEN AIR! 
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| Originally posted by Honzi Because it PSY. And it is supposed to twist and wash your brain like dirty socks, then hang it out outside when it's freezing, and let the water sublime. |
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| Originally posted by RebeL9 GMS are actually a duo. are you sure it was THAT GMS? |
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