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Posted by mal1ce on Feb-14-2006 18:39:

DJM-800 vs Xone:62 or 92....??

I just recently had the opportunity to play on a Xone:62 and was very impressed with the sound quality and overall feel. The "best" mixer I had played on up to that point was a DJM-600. The only shortcoming, IMO, with the A&H is the lack of send/return for an effects unit like the EFX-1000. I really want to have that option at some point in the future, and everything I've read about the Xone's suggested that it's not an easy thing to do.

So, I'm wondering if anyone has had the chance to play on a DJM-800 yet and if so how does it compare to the Xone:62 or 92 in sound quality and feel? Also, how do the LP and HP filters on the DJM-800 compare to the Xone's filters?
tia


Posted by idoru on Feb-14-2006 20:11:

I have a Xone:62 and an EFX-500. It's very easy to set the EFX up to work with the Xone on individual channels, however the one downside to not having send/return is that you can't switch the efx from channel-to-channel with lightspeed. I've never come across a situation where I would've wanted to do that, so it's fine with me.


Posted by RJT on Feb-14-2006 20:24:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
I have a Xone:62 and an EFX-500. It's very easy to set the EFX up to work with the Xone on individual channels, however the one downside to not having send/return is that you can't switch the efx from channel-to-channel with lightspeed. I've never come across a situation where I would've wanted to do that, so it's fine with me.


Having the EXACT same setup as Jake, I'll give that a +2



And BTW... Your latest demo is FIRE Jake... jammin' to it this morning!


Posted by blacknoizybox on Feb-14-2006 21:46:

what does "great sound quality" mean. i mean how do you define good sound from bad in normal home situations. do i need a super-precise spectrometer for testing how shitty my Numark DM1050 sounds? help, anyone? how should i know my mixer has a crappy sound or not?


Posted by Trogdor on Feb-14-2006 23:18:

DJM-800 will be out in March in the US.

On paper, it has "better" sound quality than the Xones. That is, more accurate. But, part of the attraction with Xone mixers is the way they color the sound.

I mean really, they're different beasts. The Xone:92, to me, is unsurpassed. It just doesn't get any better. Between the 62 and the 800, I don't know. One is an extremely versatile effects mixer, and one is a solid, quality mixer with great sound.

The sound quality differences will have to be put to your ears. I can practically guarantee you that the 800 will not have the quality feel of the Xones, just like the 600. But, it has a lot of advantages. Personally I would have to play with one to truly pass judgement. And I can't do that for a month or so. Until then...


Posted by idoru on Feb-15-2006 06:53:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RJT
And BTW... Your latest demo is FIRE Jake... jammin' to it this morning!



Posted by RJT on Feb-15-2006 07:02:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru


Mooncat - Badass (Time Design Mix) = Win.


Posted by Zild on Feb-15-2006 08:09:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru


After seeing these comments I started listening. Good stuff mate. I hope you don't mind if I buy a few of the tracks you mixed.


Posted by WeasiL on Feb-15-2006 18:47:

quote:
Originally posted by blacknoizybox
what does "great sound quality" mean. i mean how do you define good sound from bad in normal home situations. do i need a super-precise spectrometer for testing how shitty my Numark DM1050 sounds? help, anyone? how should i know my mixer has a crappy sound or not?


yeah its kind of hard to get an idea when your mixing at home unless you have incredible equipment. Mixing at a club with a good system though you can really tell the difference. One of my local clubs had a djm500 installed for the last 5 years and upgraded to a xone:92. Was like night and day!


Posted by idoru on Feb-15-2006 19:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
After seeing these comments I started listening. Good stuff mate. I hope you don't mind if I buy a few of the tracks you mixed.


Haha, thanks. Why would I mind? Support the artitsts.


Posted by Basstard on Feb-15-2006 19:06:

analog will always be better than digital. id go with a Xone92 over a DJM800 any day though in a club environment it is more likely you'll be using pioneer products


Posted by l�cid on Feb-15-2006 19:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Trogdor
DJM-800 will be out in March in the US.

On paper, it has "better" sound quality than the Xones. That is, more accurate. But, part of the attraction with Xone mixers is the way they color the sound.

I mean really, they're different beasts. The Xone:92, to me, is unsurpassed. It just doesn't get any better. Between the 62 and the 800, I don't know. One is an extremely versatile effects mixer, and one is a solid, quality mixer with great sound.

The sound quality differences will have to be put to your ears. I can practically guarantee you that the 800 will not have the quality feel of the Xones, just like the 600. But, it has a lot of advantages. Personally I would have to play with one to truly pass judgement. And I can't do that for a month or so. Until then...

sorry i have nothing to add, but i just wanted to say i'm glad to see someone using my 'techno RLY' ch0p as their avatar!


Posted by mal1ce on Feb-15-2006 23:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Trogdor
Personally I would have to play with one to truly pass judgement. And I can't do that for a month or so. Until then...


If you do in fact have an opportunity to check out the 800 I'd be interested in your impressions of it since you have experience with the Xone's.
tia


Posted by Trogdor on Feb-16-2006 04:48:

quote:
Originally posted by l�cid
sorry i have nothing to add, but i just wanted to say i'm glad to see someone using my 'techno RLY' ch0p as their avatar!
Whoa! You made that? Awesome work, thanks! Freakin' hilarious.

quote:
Originally posted by mal1ce
If you do in fact have an opportunity to check out the 800 I'd be interested in your impressions of it since you have experience with the Xone's.
tia
Will do. I can tell you one thing, though. There is no way in hell I will replace my 92 with an 800. So, I'm kinda biased going in.


Posted by RobertStern on Feb-16-2006 11:07:

I wlll let you guys know as soon as I get my DJM-800 how it is... This thing has the same Audio Bus as the DJM-1000. If any of you have heard or played with that, it is one of the best mixers out there. The big advantage here, is the digital bus. If you are primarily using CDJ's, no turtables. I can almost gurantee this will sound better than anything out there. I ran a bunch of tests on a DJM 600 last week, just to see what kind of noise it has. This thing was puting out almost 30db of high frequency noise. Although most of us couldn't hear it because the ambient noise in most rooms is around 50-60db. As well as a super high quality studio has a noise floor of 25 db if you are lucky..

Personally I like the sound of digital better.. Absolutely no noise! Period, you get the same information that was on the cd. Simple as that.

I order mine on friday...



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