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Interesting GTR Interview: "95% of trance is cheesy b*ll*cks"

http://www.trustthedj.com/SKRUFFF/n...hp?news_id=5033


very good interview that raises some interesting questions, what are everyones thoughts on this?

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In all honesty, most trance is shite. 95% of the promos I receive are just crap, totally unplayable, generic production and derivative melodies you�ve heard a thousand times before. They might be alright for 16 year old kids who have just graduated up from Lasgo, but not for anyone with at least partially developed taste.

It's so f*cking good to see a DJ / Producer who isn't in denial and doesn't have his head in the sand. Much respect GTR

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I guess I�m on a mission to try and show people there�s another side of the genre that�s much more edgy, leftfield and, dare I say, mature; a side that incorporates a lot more influences from house, tribal, techno and electro, and that totally blows away the sickly-sweet nonsense that a lot of big names spoon-feed to the kids.�

f*cking sweet! that's what trance needs, not the same old bullshit formulas, the scene needs imagination and innovation, it needs to look at other genres for inspiration (like other genres have looked to trance in the past for ideas) rather than making another 2006 remix

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Clubs should really work out if a producer�s any good or not before booking them as a DJ, but sadly most trance clubs just book flavour of the month producers on name alone without even checking out a set of theirs. That means you get loads of producers who turn up at a club, play a pre-planned set of all their big hits plus a few tracks done by mates of theirs, all mixed with zero technical aplomb, and they end up giving a bad name to all the other producers who know what they�re doing behind the decks.�

very important point. nothing is worse than a DJ who is touring the world because he is a famous producer, i'm so sick of seeing these producers playing boring as batshit sets, anthem after anthem with no concept of set progression and set structure and the other techniques that turn a shit set into a great set (key mixing? )

Solarstone, and MIKE, are three f*cking good DJs i've seen who've become famous because of their productions but also worked very hard at developing their DJ skills. There are others but they are few and far between the shit producers come DJs that have diluted the scene

haven't heard a set from GTR since his tastey April 2004 promo, will have to downlaod some shit from him to find out what his current sound is like

i opened this thread to tell tathi he was a cockhead, but theyre all pretty valid points. just a few comments;

95% of all music is shit. if trance looks to house for inspiration thats cool, as long as it doesnt end up sounding like house coz that 95% figure will shoot up to 100% and, i hate to tell you elitists but some of us enjoy a good set full of anthemic tunes (tho not necessarily anthems).

oh, and key mixing is yummy

"I guess I�m on a mission to try and show people there�s another side of the genre that�s much more edgy, leftfield and, dare I say, mature; a side that incorporates a lot more influences from house, tribal, techno and electro, and that totally blows away the sickly-sweet nonsense that a lot of big names spoon-feed to the kids.�

FCUKING OATH!!!!!

this is what i have been trying to do with my mixing!!



WICKED INTERVIEW

GTR FTW!
I hope he tours Aus again soon!

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�Unfortunately, most people who aren�t really into trance might get to hear one or two sets a year and they�ll invariably be dreadful, so they assume the rest of the genre is like that as well and brand the whole lot as a load of cheesy bollocks.�

Thats true, also with the harder style of music!

People generalise too much!

I agree with the article....he seems bright!!

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It�s really hard to try and change people�s negative perceptions

It is........but what can you do. Everyone has different taste & you just gutta accept it!

oooooo he is growing his hair longer

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Originally posted by MiSSyM oooooo he is growing his hair longer

his hair may be as shaggy as a gerbils but i doubt you would fit it in there, so don't even think about it

Good read, i think he makes alot of points we on TA have been saying for a while. Great to see somebody in a position to do something with this line of thought actually doing it.

hmmmmm Tathi your comments are becoming a tad boring & stale!
You need some new material boy!

Re: Interesting GTR Interview: "95% of trance is cheesy b*ll*cks"

Love your work. Very good points!

Now we're talkin' Benny Boy!

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that incorporates a lot more influences from house, tribal, techno and electro

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Originally posted by tathi http://www.trustthedj.com/SKRUFFF/n...hp?news_id=5033 very good interview that raises some interesting questions, what are everyones thoughts on this?

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Originally posted by MiSSyM hmmmmm Tathi your comments are becoming a tad boring & stale! You need some new material boy!

oh that really hurts

LOL bollocks.. I love poms.

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oh that really hurts

hahahahahha


lol bollocks godswallop fookin koonts pansys hahahaha
pommys are funny!
arrrrr arrrrr arrr

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Originally posted by MiSSyM lol bollocks godswallop fookin koonts pansys hahahaha pommys are funny! arrrrr arrrrr arrr

fuck you're a worry Maria

Interesting PKC interview \"95% of missym\'s posts are pretty retarded\"

What I want to know is what a cheesy bollock looks like!!

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Originally posted by charlee What I want to know is what a cheesy bollock looks like!!

well obviously charlee you just need to find a guy who hasnt washed his nuts in a long time.

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In all honesty, most trance is shite. 95% of the promos I receive are just crap, totally unplayable, generic production and derivative melodies you�ve heard a thousand times before. They might be alright for 16 year old kids who have just graduated up from Lasgo, but not for anyone with at least partially developed taste.

I would have to agree that most "Trance" is crap. Most "Trance" tracks are pretty much rehashed templates that have been used over and over. Same sounds, same structure, same bullshit...

Therea a certain rule that one must abide when writing Trance however and the rule regarding Trance is - Is it hyponotic? People seem to forget that THAT is what TRANCE is about. Once you start throwing inyourface gay detuned supersaw leads, once you start writing melodies that are all over the f.ucking place because you think its "emotional" or dare I say "uplifting"... it stems away from being hypnotic and its no longer Trance in my opinion.

well said Onion

hahahahha
Tathi hahahahah
hahaha hahahahahaha


hahaha PKC oh the irony! rofl ahahah
errrrrrrrrr rofl

Perhaps some people find trance with sawtooth leads hypnotic, even if you don't.

I know I find alot of work by steve helstrip, push, etc quite hypnotic and low and behold their music mostly has sawtooth leads. Get off the "Im a sick dawg I'm gonna bash out supersaws" because its just a friggen instrument, like a guitar is in rock and roll. When you combine supersaws with other elements whos to say they cant be hypnotic? IMO it's all about the layering, and the not so apparentness of the lead that makes it least predictable.

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Originally posted by ONION Therea a certain rule that one must abide when writing Trance however and the rule regarding Trance is - Is it hyponotic? People seem to forget that THAT is what TRANCE is about. Once you start throwing inyourface gay detuned supersaw leads, once you start writing melodies that are all over the f.ucking place because you think its "emotional" or dare I say "uplifting"... it stems away from being hypnotic and its no longer Trance in my opinion.

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Originally posted by Aesthetic Perhaps some people find trance with sawtooth leads hypnotic, even if you don't.

Evidently you didnt read...

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in my opinion

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Originally posted by Aesthetic I know I find alot of work by steve helstrip, push, etc quite hypnotic and low and behold their music mostly has sawtooth leads.

Secondly I couldnt give two f.ucks which "big name" producers use what sound.. The point about sawtooth leads was that when its used its inyourface / over the top and therefore its not hypnotic to me... ( not to mention predictable ) Hell it could be a fucking square lead for all I care... but if its over the top and changes notes 50 billion times so that its "emotional and uplifting" then its not hypnotic to me... Thats my opinion... dont like it?... bad luck.

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Originally posted by Aesthetic Get off the "Im a sick dawg I'm gonna bash out supersaws" because its just a friggen instrument, like a guitar is in rock and roll. When you combine supersaws with other elements whos to say they cant be hypnotic? IMO it's all about the layering, and the not so apparentness of the lead that makes it least predictable.

Dude you need to chill out, have a glass of water or something

all music is predictable. its what separates music from random sounds

well there ya go - i always liked gtr

I am chill? heh. If someone disagrees with you they're automatically pissed off?

ONION, most of the producers probably just compose for themselves, and not for you, so it doesnt really matter whether you like their trance or not

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