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Posted by DJMiakoda on Feb-15-2006 15:33:

Looking to buy a new computer

I have what will most likely be considered a dumb question, I havn't done my homework on it cause I've been working alot of hours but, what's the difference between SDRAM and RAM?

The set up I'm looking at:

Intel� Pentium� 4 Processor 640 w/HT Technology (3.2GHz,800FSB)

Operating System Genuine Windows� XP Media Center 2005 Edition

Memory 2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 400MHz - 2 DIMMs

Thing is, I can't seem to get a straight answer on this, is SDRAM replacing RAM now or are they referring to permanent memory storage?

I'm sure this seems ignorant to some of you here but honestly I just havn't had the time to sift through hundreds of articles and figure it all out.

Can anybody give me a straight up, un-sugar-coated answer here?


Posted by Storyteller on Feb-15-2006 16:11:

sdram is old
you want ddr (but it clearly states you've got ddr up there )


Posted by wood0292 on Feb-15-2006 21:34:

Re: Looking to buy a new computer

quote:
Originally posted by DJMiakoda
what's the difference between SDRAM and RAM?


SDRAM is a type of RAM, vs other types like RDRAM or the older EDO DRAM. As far as I know all system memory is DRAM(dynamic RAM, and SDRAM is synchroneous DRAM). DDR SDRAM is double date rate (DDR), and DDR2 is dual channel so run in pairs it is faster. SRAM, or static RAM, is much faster and more expensive and is used for cache and I am not sure what else.

As stated above, you want DDR, and if it is DDR2 you want it in pairs as the PC you showed the specs for. As also stated above, non DDR SDRAM is old and I don't think you would see it listed in any new PCs these days.


Posted by DJBo2 on Feb-15-2006 23:41:

Get a Mac


Posted by Alekos on Feb-16-2006 05:29:

Get a MacBook Pro!!!


Posted by acell on Feb-16-2006 05:47:

iMac is the way to go


Posted by Storyteller on Feb-16-2006 09:42:

get a life.

He's asking for a pc. No need to force him a mac.


Posted by DJBo2 on Feb-16-2006 12:33:

quote:
Get a Life


This is exactly why he should get a Mac! Everything works perfectly out of the box, no fannying about with anything, everything is so simple & well designed. Saving countless hours of frustration that you get with windows & PC. Which means you can get things done a lot faster, leaving you with more time for your life. I have never looked back since choosing Apple. Windows is sh1te, full stop.


Posted by Storyteller on Feb-16-2006 13:06:

again, get a life. This topic is not about you. He's asking for help on a pc, not a mac. He chose to buy a pc, if you have a problem with that try masturbating, it calms the mind.

Where did you even read he wants a mac. it is not an option. there's your full stop.


Posted by richg101 on Feb-16-2006 13:20:

definately either buy a apple or a pc made specifically for music production. they are more money but you wont get problems. and thats the bottom line. my pc was �200 quid more than a prebuilt one but it came with a m audio card/cubase and quiet case/fan. it was built by music technicians instead of bored to death factory workers who dont give a shit. and everything works perfect. unlike my friends who bought a 'pc world' pc and thought it would work better..


Posted by Storyteller on Feb-16-2006 15:14:

I just built mine myself. easy as hell, and if there is someting to complain about it's (almost) always yourself to blame
Never had a crash while working with audio ever. In fact it is so damn hard to crash it that if I sometimes load the cpu too much I can't press the stop button and the track keeps playing endlessly


Posted by Low Profile on Feb-16-2006 18:32:

Some people prefer PCs, others prefer macs. I prefer PCs (and I'm not trying to persuade you to switch from your mac, so please don't do that to us )

And if I were you, I wouldn't get any of that stuff My target would be a socket 939 AMD X2 3800+, it's a 64 bit dual core processor, and it's not so expensive. Get DDR, not SDRAM, sdram is old and has been replaced by DDR, which is now being replaced by DDR2 (which IMO, isn't all that better...). If you decide on AMD, try to steer away from nForce 4 mainboards, I've heard they sometimes give you crap when working with low-latency audio cards.

And run Windows XP Pro, the words Media Center just yell out "Consumer product" a bit too much for me (I've never tried it, don't know much about, but still have very little faith in it...)


Posted by Alekos on Feb-16-2006 19:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
again, get a life. This topic is not about you. He's asking for help on a pc, not a mac. He chose to buy a pc, if you have a problem with that try masturbating, it calms the mind.

Where did you even read he wants a mac. it is not an option. there's your full stop.


Are you freaking kidding me?? What the F*** is wrong with this guy?

Go and molest yourself kido!!!


Posted by DJBo2 on Feb-16-2006 19:24:

I know, I was just giving my opinoin. Who said anything about masturbating?

Odd.


Posted by wood0292 on Feb-16-2006 19:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Low Profile
Get DDR, not SDRAM, sdram is old and has been replaced by DDR, which is now being replaced by DDR2 (which IMO, isn't all that better...). If you decide on AMD, try to steer away from nForce 4 mainboards, I've heard they sometimes give you crap when working with low-latency audio cards.


DDR(or 2) SDRAM is SDRAM at twice the data rate. Plain old non-DDR SDRAM is old, but probably not found on any PCs for a few years now.

I had problems with the onboard LAN on the nForce4 board, but never any problem with audio. I'd suggest AMD as well, I just built one cheap and fast.


Posted by Storyteller on Feb-16-2006 19:54:

Re: Looking to buy a new computer

quote:
Originally posted by IKKI-ZUVK
Are you freaking kidding me?? What the F*** is wrong with this guy?

Go and molest yourself kido!!!


Maybe you understand it put down without some 'awfull' thing every guy seems to do.

quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
again, get a life. This topic is not about you. He's asking for help on a pc, not a mac. He chose to buy a pc.

Where did you even read he wants a mac. it is not an option. there's your full stop.


quote:
Originally posted by DJBo2
I know, I was just giving my opinoin.


Your opinion on what might I ask?
this maybe? :

quote:
Originally posted by DJMiakoda
I have what will most likely be considered a dumb question, I havn't done my homework on it cause I've been working alot of hours but, what's the difference between SDRAM and RAM?


Oh no wait, it must be this one:

quote:
Thing is, I can't seem to get a straight answer on this, is SDRAM replacing RAM now or are they referring to permanent memory storage?


Bottom Line:
This mac vs pc bullshit sucks. Stop it, get a life. He wants a pc, your replies are of no use. Make your own topic if you want to, go make yourself usefull somewhere else. Get the point? I really don't see how you can read the word maturbation but you can't seem te read the topic starter isn't looking for a mac! GEEZ!


Posted by Storyteller on Feb-16-2006 20:01:

And now something different than the 'get a mac' crap.

quote:
Originally posted by DJMiakoda
I have what will most likely be considered a dumb question, I havn't done my homework on it cause I've been working alot of hours but, what's the difference between SDRAM and RAM?

The set up I'm looking at:

Intel� Pentium� 4 Processor 640 w/HT Technology (3.2GHz,800FSB)

Operating System Genuine Windows� XP Media Center 2005 Edition

Memory 2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 400MHz - 2 DIMMs

Thing is, I can't seem to get a straight answer on this, is SDRAM replacing RAM now or are they referring to permanent memory storage?

I'm sure this seems ignorant to some of you here but honestly I just havn't had the time to sift through hundreds of articles and figure it all out.

Can anybody give me a straight up, un-sugar-coated answer here?


It could be smart to turn off hyperthreading. That technology is good for multi tasking. But if you use reason for instance, this technology will limit the accesible processor bandwidth. This means you'll be using approximately 50% of you processor power instead of the full 100 in quite a few cases. Sequencers which support multi-processors shouldn't have a problem with this I believe.

Another thing, windows xp media center edition isn't interesting if you're buying this pc primarily to use as a audio workstation. Windows xp professional would suit your needs better.


Posted by acell on Feb-16-2006 22:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
get a life.

He's asking for a pc. No need to force him a mac.

wow.. there really are some true wankers here on this forum.. Maybe he's new to it all? Maybe he never thought of a Mac, maybe he's now got a wider range of options then just a Windows based PC..

so:

1. A Mac is an option to anyone who's looking at buying a PC (Personal Computer for thoes playing at home) so it's a very vailid..

2. Who is forcing? No one.. again, just an option

3. Did someone drop a mac on your head or something when you were yong?

4. Forget Mac vs Pc, It is proven without a shodow of a doubt that Mac OSX kicks the fuck out of XP (and lets not get started on Vista *cough OSXVista*

so just chill out.. let people have there opionions and don't flame others for not sharing you opionion..

j


Posted by DJBo2 on Feb-16-2006 23:01:

Couldnt have put it better myself...


Posted by djgosher2023 on Feb-16-2006 23:31:

buy a pc and a mac together,cant go wrong there!!


Posted by Alekos on Feb-17-2006 01:12:

quote:
Originally posted by acell
wow.. there really are some true wankers here on this forum.. Maybe he's new to it all? Maybe he never thought of a Mac, maybe he's now got a wider range of options then just a Windows based PC..

so:

1. A Mac is an option to anyone who's looking at buying a PC (Personal Computer for thoes playing at home) so it's a very vailid..

2. Who is forcing? No one.. again, just an option

3. Did someone drop a mac on your head or something when you were yong?

4. Forget Mac vs Pc, It is proven without a shodow of a doubt that Mac OSX kicks the fuck out of XP (and lets not get started on Vista *cough OSXVista*

so just chill out.. let people have there opionions and don't flame others for not sharing you opionion..

j



.... AMEN


Posted by erdega on Feb-17-2006 01:58:

I always wondered if mac heads get some type rebate or some compensation for trying to convert unsuspecting potential customers.
Cult of Mac
http://www.wired.com/news/columns/0...ml?tw=rss.index

As far as the original poster, I would recomend amd processors as they are cheaper and faster, dual core, the most memory you can afford, minimum 1GB , bigest hard drive and the rest is mere details. One thing I would strongly advise is to take a good lcd monitor, don't even think about the tube, such as those 24" from dell and samsung. Resolution is more important than size. It's surprising how many people neglect the display part of the configuration but it's undeniable that it creates a huge productivity increase once you can view and do more at once k.


Posted by DjGeMiNi529 on Feb-17-2006 03:44:

im looking of getting a new pc myself some people have said windows media center edition isnt good for audio, i was just wondering how come cause i found a fairly cheap comp with good specs but its got media center edition


Posted by acell on Feb-17-2006 03:48:

quote:
Originally posted by DjGeMiNi529
im looking of getting a new pc myself some people have said windows media center edition isnt good for audio, i was just wondering how come cause i found a fairly cheap comp with good specs but its got media center edition



my understanding is that media centre is tuned for handeling.. well.. digital media like audi (mp3,wma), hdTV and DVD.. not really tuned for your day to day workings.. also designed (tuned) to run the applications to do the above efficently.. thats what it's for.. so guess thats what it's best at doing..

XP is ya allround powerhouse in the windows word (2003 grate for IIS stuff, but not designed for running multiple programs)

just my 2 cents


Posted by Alekos on Feb-17-2006 04:03:

quote:
Originally posted by erdega
I always wondered if mac heads get some type rebate or some compensation for trying to convert unsuspecting potential customers.
Cult of Mac
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WTF is wrong with this guy?

Yes, we do get compensation for this, as a matter I should be getting a MacBook Pro due to what I've said in this post.


mofo


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