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Problems/Issues in your local scene?
I don't know if there is a thread for this already, couldn't seem to find one, but perhaps it could help. I just wanted to share a couple of the things I'm really struggling with in my local scene and see if any of the DJ Booth TA's could help, and I'm hoping there are other's of you out there that can benefit from sharing some of your frustrations with us.
But I digress...
So I began a monthly residency at a local club towards the end of last year, a rather nice venue in my hometown that I really enjoy playing at, however I'm having some issues with the other DJ's who play there and do a lot of the promoting.
First, and likely least important, one of the main promoters and DJ's that I've played alongside seems to have trouble discussing what he plays. He tells anyone and everyone that he's a "progressive trance" dj, but in reality all he plays is lots of hard trance and some older ATB style stuff. He's a nice guy, a really, really nice guy who's been nothing but great to me, but he talks about how he used to get paid $1000 an hour to spin in LA, etc. and so on. He creates these stories that are just so blatantly fabricated and he has such an incredible lack of understanding of not only the music, but the world of EDM in general that I'm genuinely embarassed a lot of the times I talk to him. I've tried to explain to him that what he's playing isn't even close to "Progressive Trance," and when he begins to tell his "stories" I just try to shrug them off and change the topic before it goes too far, but it's getting to the point where he's making reference to clubs/events/places he played that are just blatantly untrue, and I know it, and it's hard to listen to. How would you guys address this? I don't really want to piss him off and embarass him by saying "Dude, you have no idea what you're talking about and I'm sick of you lying to me about your resume," but at the same time, I don't want him to think I'm buying his bullshit.
And damn, with that, I forgot the main problem I wanted to address in this thread.... 
I'll post the rest when I remember it...
lol.
LA is insane. Thats all I can say. Its crazy. Its quick. You move up fast, never go anywhere, or fall down faster than you came up.
Theres so many DJ's too that its really hard to stand out, you really have to be doing something different and be aggressive at getting yourself heard.
Its fun though...we have a huge variety of local talent.
Seattle has an incredibly strong local scene, moreso in fact than the "Pop/Rockstar" DJ scene in the area. All of the promoters cooperate together and support each other, as well as build many DJs to national, and in some cases international levels (ie Glaude & Dig Dug). There's only one shady promoter who stands out, and who isn't supported by most people involved in the scene.
That said, however, our local DJ scene thrives on harder music, such as Hard Trance, Hardcore, or Drum 'n Bass. It's rare to see a local DJ playing House like any of us three unless you head out to a 21+ club where the DJ will be opening for an international headliner. The local DJs who do play House tend to play Funky House, which is kind of a disappointment because so many of them are technically amazing that they could be a lot better if they played a set full of original tunes rather than what everyone else is playing.
I couldn't tell you how hard it is to make it, as I'm only now getting ready to send my first demos out, although it's not hard to "know someone who knows someone." Through Nou/DJFreaq, I could tell you that I'm connected to one of the largest west coast promoters. A soon-to-be-ex-co-worker has a friend who used to room with Glaude, and another co-worker is friends with multiple local DJs. You can walk through the mall and meet the promoters themselves flyering for upcoming events, and simply posting a photo or two from the event will really get you noticed by them.
I like it, because the promoters are down-to-earth and communicate with everybody who comes into the club, rather than being silent for the most part.
i would hand him a cd from a dj who actually plays progressive trance. politely say "You may want to listen to this because I think your getting your genre's mixed up" 
I know what you mean but in this day and age it's all about promotion promotion promotion. I know what you mean you don't want to give the impression that your buyin this bullshit and all. But come to think of it the whole fuckin industry is filled with liers and backstabers. people who think they r the next tiesto when they r shit. You gotta learn to deal with it or ur screwd. You can be make it noticable that u dont believe him but in a sneaky way if u know whatg i mean.
This shit is here alot in egypt check out the dj list in egypt every1 copied tiesto bio and only changed the name
Peace,
Soliman
rob, the next time he's talking to you about his resume in front of some1 ask him who his favourite prog artists are. when he says ATB for example, hope that the other people present correct him and tell him he's full of shit, so you get the result you wanted without lookin like a bastard 
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| Originally posted by WeasiL i would hand him a cd from a dj who actually plays progressive trance. politely say "You may want to listen to this because I think your getting your genre's mixed up" |
Taken from the dj list:
In Egyptian dance music circles, Khaled's name conjures near mythological references and fond memories of unforgettable gigs at exotic destinations. What punctuates Khaled's skills as a DJ is his capacity to not only incorporate diverse genres and styles, but to transcend them by infusing his music with pure emotion. Khaled's talent is matched only by his passion, which has seen him become one of Egypt's true superstars.
Music has always been the biggest passion in Khaled's life; He felt the need to share this passion and explode his self inner expression with other people. Khaled's career started as a DJ in 1994. Between 1994 and 1996 he performed as a resident DJ for Woody's Pub which at the time was Egypt's ultimate "party hangout". Khaled has toured Egypt's playing at its finest clubs, concerts, and media outlets.
Khaled's most memorable night was performing in front of 33,000 clubbers @ Club Sandorini. During the same year he was awarded 1st place in the DJ MIXING COMPETITION (DMC), followed by earning the title "Egypt's most popular DJ" by yallabina.
Khaled has Preformed alongside with the worlds most finest talent to mention a few Sonique, Chus & Ceballos, John Kelly,Anthony Pappa ,Judge Jules,Matthew Dekay, John 00 Fleming, Lemon 8, Steve Lawler and, Satoshi Tommie. Also he has participated in concerts with respectable artists such as Amr Diab, Assy El Helany, Ragheb Alama, Elissa, Nawal EL Zoghby, and, Wael Kafoury. Khaled is a regular guest DJ @ the superior Pacha- Sharm Club and Latex.
It is with no doubt that Khaled has altered the Egypt's Dance scene and taken his crowds to new heights. Khaled can truly be titled as a "Pioneer".
Most of this is piss poor promotion and bullshit by the way
What you should do concerning that DJ, WeasiL actually had it right: Give him a mix of REAL progressive trance, and either he likes it and says "yes that was good prog. trance", in which case he may have realized how wrong he was before, or he says "that's not progressive!", and then you have a chance to correct him... just be subtle about it Oh, and show him Ishkur's EDM guide also
its pretty silly of him to promote himself that way. the shit will seriously hit the fan if some promoter books him for a prog nite and he plays til i come 
maybe thats the best thing to do man, let things play out 
Ya ...LA has lots of DJs, Thats why I got into production, unlimited originality. I love to spin but Ill keep it in the house. Id much rather do the live production thing more.
You know, honestly...."progressive trance" is one of those genres I don't say often because everyone has a different idea of what it is.
Even the "official" sources....go to 5 different record stores, and look in the progressive trance section. I guarantee that there will be at least 3 different interpretations of what progressive trance is.
So I guess I don't blame him.
I mean, what would you call ATB's style? And who would you call a typical progressive trance DJ?
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| Originally posted by IntegraR0064 I mean, what would you call ATB's style? |
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| Originally posted by IntegraR0064 And who would you call a typical progressive trance DJ? |
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| Originally posted by DJ RJT Well, I don't know for you, but for me, the name "ATB" evokes nothing even close to the phrase "progressive trance" to me. The only words I can personally think to describe ATB are "Cheesy Trance." I should also mention at this point as well that I have in the past loved ATB sets and productions, a PVD/ATB set I had from like 5 or 6 years ago was easily my favorite set for a long time. So by saying "cheesy" trance, I basically just mean that I can't think of a proper sub-genre to place him in, but also believe that he is not progressive trance, and that the melodic high synths used in many ATB tracks sound "cheesy" to me at this point. It's a relative term, but two that come to mind immediately when I imagine what Progressive Trance are Markus Schulz and Kenneth Thomas. |
kinda like back in my hometown back in the day where .
techno = eurodance
trance = atb
house = kylie
dnb = black eyed peas
breaks = no one even plays breaks.
electro= some old skool new wave shiet.
now its still the same except
trance = benny benassi
house = benny benassi
techno = BK
wtf..
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| Originally posted by superglo breaks = no one even plays breaks. |
i'm not living in my hometown anymore.
where i'm at, it's saturated with trance (hard/prog/epic) and house. it's become such a commercial sound. the freshest scene seems to be breakbeat / drum and bass.
tallahassee? scene? 
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| Originally posted by superglo where i'm at, it's saturated with trance (hard/prog/epic) and house. it's become such a commercial sound. the freshest scene seems to be breakbeat / drum and bass. |
About my local scene,
1) There are no Clubs (Yes not even one, its illegal here)
2) R&B is the preferred music
3) Private Parties must end by 12 Midnight (You will be lucky if you can get it past Midnight)
4) To be safe, you need a permit, this includes too many fucking procedures and to be handed in to the main police headquarters. If they disapprove, you need approval from the Ministry of Home Affairs.
5) Trance is hardly listened or preferred.
6) Cheesy Sammy IS!
7) No booze is allowed in my country. Yes you can bring it but only half a carton of beer per person. No booze is sold anywhere.
Help meeeeeeeeeee 
P/S; Played some gigs where there were permits though but its really such a hastle that people dont bother to make parties.
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| Originally posted by idoru Seattle has an incredibly strong local scene, moreso in fact than the "Pop/Rockstar" DJ scene in the area. All of the promoters cooperate together and support each other, as well as build many DJs to national, and in some cases international levels (ie Glaude & Dig Dug). There's only one shady promoter who stands out, and who isn't supported by most people involved in the scene. That said, however, our local DJ scene thrives on harder music, such as Hard Trance, Hardcore, or Drum 'n Bass. |
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| Originally posted by ChoBo About my local scene, 1) There are no Clubs (Yes not even one, its illegal here) 2) R&B is the preferred music 3) Private Parties must end by 12 Midnight (You will be lucky if you can get it past Midnight) 4) To be safe, you need a permit, this includes too many fucking procedures and to be handed in to the main police headquarters. If they disapprove, you need approval from the Ministry of Home Affairs. 5) Trance is hardly listened or preferred. 6) Cheesy Sammy IS! 7) No booze is allowed in my country. Yes you can bring it but only half a carton of beer per person. No booze is sold anywhere. Help meeeeeeeeeee P/S; Played some gigs where there were permits though but its really such a hastle that people dont bother to make parties. |
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