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Stanton C.303/304's vs. Pioneer CDJ-100/200's
I know this question pops up 5 times a week, but please bear with me 
I'm trying to decide on which of these players to get. I've been using Traktor for a while with a Behringer BCF2000 controller, but it's time to get some real hardware, and these are the best players I can afford (I have very limited cash.. 
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1. The C304 has a filter effect. I use filters alot when mixing in Traktor. Can anyone tell me what kind of filter there are? (high pass, low pass or both). And how is the cutoff point controlled? (the online manual has very limited information about the effects)
2. The CDJ-200 has mp3 support, but I heard somewhere it only plays a specific type of mp3's... is this true?? What types of mp3's DOES the CDJ-200 play?
3. What are the Jet, Zip and Wah effects like?? Is the Wah effect a filter effect?? if so, what kind of filter effect? (hi/low pass?)
4. C303 versus CDJ-100s ? Which one is a better investment?
5. C304 versus CDJ-200 ? Again, which player do you prefer out of the two?
6. Are the C304's / CDJ-200's worth the extra 100$ a piece over the 303/CDJ100's ?
Also, in your opinion, what is the best mixer 200 dollars can buy??? 
(don't recommend me expensive mixers, please, I can't get anything more expensive )
id go with the Pioneer CDJ-200
1. The WAH effect is a LPASS/HPASS filter - turn the jog counter-clockwise to cut off the highs, turn it clockwise to cut off the low. simple as that!
2. Pioneer has superb antishock system. forget about skipping
3. Pioneer reads mp3 (only cbr, no vbr)
4. Pioneer has an accurate pitch (up to 0.02%)
5. loading time is 3.5 sec. for audio cds, and 5.5 for mp3
6. has resume function, if cd gets ejected accidently
7. its Pioneer
8. it has a full-functional digital out SP/DIF
9. signal/noise ratio is superb, very clear sound, minimal distortion
im hoping to get a pair of cdj-200s in summer
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| Originally posted by blacknoizybox id go with the Pioneer CDJ-200 7. its Pioneer |
to me it doesnt
I recently got myself a pair of CDJ100s just to have some fun with really. Turns out I use them alot more than I expected. Great investment IMO. See if you can pick them up used somewhere, I got my pair for $300 used. I'm really not sure since I don't have experience with the CDJ200, but from what I understand the only difference would be MP3 support and a nicer look. If you don't need to play MP3's, go with the 100s. Good luck.
Nick
buying a cdj-100 in 2006 is like buying the first Ford T 
dont be seriuos, cdj-100 is history
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| Originally posted by PlayerLac I recently got myself a pair of CDJ100s just to have some fun with really. Turns out I use them alot more than I expected. Great investment IMO. See if you can pick them up used somewhere, I got my pair for $300 used. I'm really not sure since I don't have experience with the CDJ200, but from what I understand the only difference would be MP3 support and a nicer look. If you don't need to play MP3's, go with the 100s. Good luck. Nick |
Yup, I think the 200s will be my pick, I don't really care about mp3 support, but 0.02% pitch adjustment versus the 100s' 0.1% is really important (is it even possible to effectively mix with 0.1% precision??? )
How about a mixer?? From the limited range of sub-200$ mixers, what is my best bet? (I need 2 channels, 3 band EQ, no mic input and no effects (all I need are filter effects, and that's built into the players 
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| Originally posted by Pinokio You can get a Cdj-200 for $335 Free Shipping Get The 200 |
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| Originally posted by Pinokio You can get a Cdj-200 for $335 Free Shipping Get The 200 |
I wouldnt have baught 100s. You should have waited and got the stantons or the cdj200s. You cant scratch and you cant do long mixes (well you can but you have to adjust too often). The cdj100s are wway to outdated. You will most likely need to upgrade soon. But if your happy with your cdj100s then who cares isnt that the main point of buying stuff?
I'm thinking of buying a pair of c304's at the momoent.
Heres a product video- http://www.decks.co.uk/products/cdplayers/stanton/c304
def the 304's
i have got a pair of the stanton 304's
here is a review i did
the stantons are actually pritty good the scratching is spot on but like all cd decks it does sound a bit digital
effects are cool filter,phase,echo,pan,flanger,transform aka Cutting effect as on the pioneer djm600.
there are some things they didnt say about the deck like you can actually change the start up/power down of the track i.e make it sound like the song is starting really slow then speeds up and for the power down make the song sound like its getting slower and slower (like you would do on a TT when you click the power off) so in my eyes it is the newer version of the pioneer cdj 1000mk2 but made by stanton.i also have two cdj 800 (but only use them for gigs) and to be real there aint anything different between them well the price is one and the looks but underneath the shell.............. nothing!
i can really see this cd deck given pioneer a hard time its great for live remixing due to the 4 hot cue buttons but in fact you can store 12 hot cue points which this is another thing stanton did'nt say.
pros
looks nice (they look crazy in the dark like some kinda power plant or somat!)
great pitch range +/- 8,16,25,100
loads of features which have not been menstioned.
good price tag for them i paid �640 for them both (not trade price either).
Fader start funtion (great tool to use)
cons
jog wheel is a bit heavy so watch out when you do a back spin it goes on forever.
sampler could have had more memory added to it only has 5 seconds per button.1-4
blue screen a bit hard to read the writing aint dark enought for the background colour.
when you load a cd up a tray comes out instead of like the pioneers where you can just slide the cd in.so lads whatch out for your crown jewels if you have these cd decks set up at a low hight.
overall i would give them a 9.5 out of 10
the missing 0.5 is because they are not the industry standard (YET) plus they will have to earn the respect of the top djs just like the pioneers cdj 1000 had to do.
i hope this has helpedyou m8.
here is a pic of my setup just to prove i havethe 304's
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=51851933&imageID=500588362&Mytoken=10C3AD46-10F7-1167-211E14CF4A5709B381480303
What's up with all of the CDJ-100 bashing? CDJ-100s are great, especially if you have a limited budget.
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| Originally posted by blacknoizybox to me it doesnt |
ive played w/ fuzzy's 200s and i really think that theyre great, esp for the price. that being said, the jog wheel does feel REALLY ghetto (very usable though) at least in comparison to like the cdj1000mk2.
ive also playe dw/ a dns3500 before, and theres something i really dislike about that platter (even w/ the spnning turned off). the interface is also really busy, but thats cause it has lots of features.
hope that helps.
stanton cd 304's have an 8" jog wheel which is bigger than a 45 since the come in at 7".
ok
denon dn - 3500 (i think are better then pioneer) but once again it all comes down to that stupid industry standard crap.
NUmark cdx - the chips they used for the fx are cheap i.e the sameones Behringer us in there djx 700. and are just to big as cd decks.
technics sldz1200 - so many problems with them i aint even gonna bother to mention them (there really is that many!).product was rushed onto the market to try and compet with pioneer they even canceld the developments of Music keyboards (i.e sx kn series) to try and spend more time with this kinda stuff.plus they cost an arm and a leg.
you cant really call the stanton 304's an expencive paper weight
�640 for two cd decks hmm i dont think thats expensive
numark cdx - for one it costs �473 in the uk
denon dn3500 - for one it costs around �650 in the UK
technics sldz1200 - for one it costs �576 in the UK
personaly now thinking about it if you are just starting out with cd decks i would get the stanton digipak pro
you get
2xc.303
1xm202 mixer
and a pro carry case for only �500 (now thats a giveaway)
here is the link for you all to have a look at.
http://www.jbsmusic.com/view/951/
On the Stanton C304's, is there a way to stutter the start? Instead of setting a loop, I want to play the first few seconds, and start it again, without making a loop. I'm not sure if I am explaining it correct, but right now I have Numark CDN-88's, and on there I can just hit the play button and it automatically takes me back to the beginning of the song, but on these I see that the play is also the pause. Is there another button that can do this same thing?
yes mate its called a hot cue what you can do is when you play the track in your headphones find the part that you like and then press one of the 4 hot cue buttons one you have pressed the hot cue button you will have stored a cue point so everytime you hit the hot cue button it goes straight back to that exact section where you pressed to hot cue button.
the best trick to do though is play the the whole song in your head phones (fast forward bits ovcourse) and place around 3 hot cue points this way you can make the track you own by say putting the chorus first then play the intro then the chorus again and then play the bridge then the chorus and finaly the outro (basicly you can recontruct any song you like).
if this is not what you are on about THEN to do a simple stutter effect is simple all you do is dont select the vinyl or one touch rewind funtions then the cd deck will just act like an old school cd deck i.e STUTTER EFFECT.
i have used the Numark cdn88 aswell im not really a fan of them for as you have stated when you push the play button it goes straight back but im sure if you selct a cue point and then move the jog wheel (make sure no effects are selected) then im sure they will do the stutter effect.
i hope i have helped you in some sort of way.
thanks a lot. you answered my question, and know i think i'll start saving up for a C304.
your welcome m8 if you have any more questions please dont hesitate to pm me ok.
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| Originally posted by PlayerLac I recently got myself a pair of CDJ100s just to have some fun with really. Turns out I use them alot more than I expected. Great investment IMO. See if you can pick them up used somewhere, I got my pair for $300 used. I'm really not sure since I don't have experience with the CDJ200, but from what I understand the only difference would be MP3 support and a nicer look. If you don't need to play MP3's, go with the 100s. Good luck. Nick |
it sounds like your laser needs re-tuning m8 thats all or its because the unit might be old and had alot of use.
dont try and re-tune it yourself get a trained techniction to look at it.
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| Originally posted by Djyoungsta00 it sounds like your laser needs re-tuning m8 thats all or its because the unit might be old and had alot of use. dont try and re-tune it yourself get a trained techniction to look at it. |
Hmmm, maybe I should reconsider the C.304's
I still have one question unanswered: How does the filter effect on the C.304 work?? Is it selectable Hi/Low cut?? Can you adjust the cutoff point with a knob?
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