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Posted by Munchy on Feb-18-2006 03:37:

Stupid question about CDJ's...

Can the CDJ200 do everything a CDJ800 and 1000 can? Well not EVERYTHING but like the 800 and 1000 have jog dials and you can mess with them like vinyls, can you do the same with the 200 or does the 200 only play?

Just wondering cause when you go to the Pioneer site, they classify the 100 and 200 as cd players and the 800 and 1000 as digital vinyl turntables...

Thanks!

Also, dif's between 100 and 200? Prolly gonna pick up a pair of 200's this summer...


Posted by Ygrene on Feb-18-2006 03:45:

I believe the platter on the 200 is just for jogging, no scratching.

The 200 does have better pitch resolution than the 800 at .02% though.


Posted by blacknoizybox on Feb-18-2006 06:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Ygrene
I believe the platter on the 200 is just for jogging, no scratching.

The 200 does have better pitch resolution than the 800 at .02% though.

and another reason to buy cdj-200


Posted by -AbsurD- on Feb-18-2006 11:06:

200 plays mp3s =))


Posted by Soliman on Feb-18-2006 13:24:

You can emulate vinyl "scratch" with the cdj 800/1000 u cant with the 200 and 100


Posted by Boomer187 on Feb-18-2006 17:28:

quote:
Originally posted by blacknoizybox
and another reason to buy cdj-200



cheaper, have built in effects, cheaper, accurate pitch, cheaper.....


Posted by Ygrene on Feb-18-2006 18:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
cheaper, have built in effects, cheaper, accurate pitch, cheaper.....


How do they compare cost-wise vs the 800?


Posted by Damerchi on Feb-18-2006 19:05:

Y does no one ever mention the American Audio CDI 500 turntable... With 9 board effects, and similar vinyl feel for the jog wheel as the cdj's. Costs around the same price as the cdj 200, only disadvantage is that it is not able to read mp3's. Just curious because i think it is an excellent cd deck.


Posted by Inertia on Feb-18-2006 20:08:

CDJ-200 as compared to a 1000Mk2 (plus and minus):

+ mp3 support
+ resume support (will start where it left off if you eject a CD and put it right back in)
+ 3 onboard effects (JET [flanger, sorta], ZIP [pitch change, sorta], WAH [filter, sorta])
+ beat/loop cutter
+ autoloop
- vinyl emulation
- start/brake adjust
- onboard sampler
- cue point saving/memory card function
- wave display
- +/-100% pitch range

i think that basically sums it up. i own a 200, and i love the machine. got it for a great price at guitarcenter (pricematched) and its worth every cent and more.


Posted by Inertia on Feb-18-2006 20:12:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Damerchi
Y does no one ever mention the American Audio CDI 500 turntable... With 9 board effects, and similar vinyl feel for the jog wheel as the cdj's. Costs around the same price as the cdj 200, only disadvantage is that it is not able to read mp3's. Just curious because i think it is an excellent cd deck.


problem is with most gear that is supposed to be good, but costs little, and is not a reliable brand name, is that it works wonders for a few months and then breaks down

American Audio seems to do it a lot, as well.


Posted by Orbital32 on Feb-18-2006 22:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Inertia
CDJ-200 as compared to a 1000Mk2 (plus and minus):

+ mp3 support
+ resume support (will start where it left off if you eject a CD and put it right back in)
+ 3 onboard effects (JET [flanger, sorta], ZIP [pitch change, sorta], WAH [filter, sorta])
+ beat/loop cutter
+ autoloop
- vinyl emulation
- start/brake adjust
- onboard sampler
- cue point saving/memory card function
- wave display
- +/-100% pitch range

i think that basically sums it up. i own a 200, and i love the machine. got it for a great price at guitarcenter (pricematched) and its worth every cent and more.


the loop in the CDJ-1000 is AMAZING! Once you get the hang of it, is's better the 1/8, 1/4, 1/2 or whatever configuration the 200 has.


Posted by Inertia on Feb-19-2006 03:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbital32
the loop in the CDJ-1000 is AMAZING! Once you get the hang of it, is's better the 1/8, 1/4, 1/2 or whatever configuration the 200 has.


never said better or worse.

btw, its not the 1/8, 1/4, and so on like the 800. the 200 has an 'Autoloop/Beat Cutter' button. press once, you get a 4 beat loop, automatically. it's pretty accurate, most of the time. once a loop is playing, be it an auto loop or a manual one from IN/OUT buttons, the button acts as a cutter, hit it to cut in half, again to cut that one in half, and so on.


Posted by Trogdor on Feb-19-2006 19:45:

I just don't understand why anyone would want to play mp3s. Why not just burn audio cd's?


Posted by Ygrene on Feb-19-2006 19:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Trogdor
I just don't understand why anyone would want to play mp3s. Why not just burn audio cd's?


Storage capacity. You can fit ALOT more mp3's as files on a single disc vs recording them as audio.


Posted by Kooshie on Feb-19-2006 19:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Trogdor
I just don't understand why anyone would want to play mp3s. Why not just burn audio cd's?


They save much space.

Regular audio CD's hold maybe 10-12 Club mix's on each one. Take an mp3 disc, you can hold about 120 Club Mix's. Imagine going to an event, and never having to eject CD's. Load 2 cd's up, with 120 tracks on both. Wallah! your show. Great for the Wedding/Mobile DJ's.

Or At a club. Run 4 decks, 2 vinyl, and 2 CD's. load up an mp3 disc for looping and sampling. You can use the 2 cd decks to put over top of songs to make some wicked remix's Live, while spining on 2 vinyl tables.

Just some of the things the digital tools can be used for


Posted by xstalkrx on Feb-20-2006 06:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Ygrene
Storage capacity. You can fit ALOT more mp3's as files on a single disc vs recording them as audio.


if you were to burn a mp3 as audio...what file extension does it give?

the cdj-200's play wav files as well correct?


Posted by est on Feb-20-2006 11:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Kooshie
Imagine going to an event, and never having to eject CD's. Load 2 cd's up, with 120 tracks on both. Wallah! your show. Great for the Wedding/Mobile DJ's.


Bearing in mind that you woudn't be able to mix tunes that are on the same CD, so couldn't get away with too much of that!


Posted by Kooshie on Feb-21-2006 19:33:

quote:
Originally posted by est
Bearing in mind that you woudn't be able to mix tunes that are on the same CD, so couldn't get away with too much of that!



2 decks, 2 cd's of over 120 songs on it. Set. Besides, go dj a wedding, see how much mixing you'll get in. Certainly wouldn't be a hot Rave or anything.


Posted by est on Feb-21-2006 19:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Kooshie
2 decks, 2 cd's of over 120 songs on it. Set. Besides, go dj a wedding, see how much mixing you'll get in. Certainly wouldn't be a hot Rave or anything.

So do you mean having the same tracks on both CDs? Aaaah i see what you mean! I just thought that you'd be kinna screwed if you thought to yourself 'this tune would be perfect next...except its on the disk im already playing...'


Posted by Munchy on Feb-22-2006 02:14:

Shit the CDJ800 is so sexy

So the ONLY differences between the 200 and 800/1000 is the MP3 support (not for long apparently), the jog dial, and the pitch resolution? Everything else is the same no?


Posted by Atho on Feb-22-2006 04:25:

quote:
Originally posted by xstalkrx
if you were to burn a mp3 as audio...what file extension does it give?

the cdj-200's play wav files as well correct?


Burning an MP3 as an audio track will convert it to a wav on the CD.


Posted by Munchy on Feb-22-2006 04:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Atho
Burning an MP3 as an audio track will convert it to a wav on the CD.

No it doesn't...

It turns it into a CD cue...

Try copy/pasting a song off a burnt audio CD and see what it gives you


Posted by xstalkrx on Feb-22-2006 06:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Munchy
Shit the CDJ800 is so sexy

So the ONLY differences between the 200 and 800/1000 is the MP3 support (not for long apparently), the jog dial, and the pitch resolution? Everything else is the same no?


800 allows for scratching i believe.


Posted by Kooshie on Feb-23-2006 00:24:

Numark CDX for scratching

I'm sure, I'm gonna annoy the hell outta all of you, I don't follow "standards" my motto is "make yer own"


Posted by Wisnia on Feb-23-2006 01:21:

The cdj-200 are flimsy, and feel like they will break on you any second. They do have mp3 and 0.02 pitch cause it just came out (the new cdj800 mk2 will have all that). Personally, i think the cdj-200 is ment for home use, and the cdj800 for clubs and stuff. For me the 800 is better, but thats just personal preference.


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