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Posted by moevalith on Feb-21-2006 19:13:

moevalith - seventy two reasons ( original 192 kbps mp3 ) // expressive squares //

Hey guys.

I just recently finished my latest production. I'd like all of you to have a listen when you got the time. Yet again I ask for brutal feedback, it's what helps me the most. I'm aware of the following flaws in the mixdown; some frequency clashes between 2khz to 7khz, missing mid low texture between 100hz and 500hz, and just a tiny bit of increase in levels of 50hz.



----> moevalith - seventy two reasons ( original 192 kbps mp3)

I gave it a few goes on my cdjs after spinning a few of my most groovy beats and noticed that the groove can be maintained but not elevated with my production, any groovy suggestions?

And also, who else on this forum produces regularly? Give us a shout so we can share samples, ideas and tips. I mean I see alot of talk about djs and their gigs around here, but arnt djs as good as the records they play?

Thanks in advanced


Posted by sEpH on Feb-21-2006 20:36:

i suggest you the Production section of this forum

Im not a producer but I can say that this track is good imo, the melody is fukced up!
I probably wont buy the vinyl because i dont listen to this genre of electro, but it sounds great

good job


Posted by Vermz on Feb-21-2006 20:39:

Re: moevalith - seventy two reasons ( original 192 kbps mp3 ) // expressive squares //

quote:
Originally posted by moevalith
but arnt djs as good as the records they play?


right
producers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> djs


Posted by Mekroon on Feb-21-2006 20:47:

id say u got big skillz for atmosphere
i personnaly dont work that much on this side and its a problem for me
the melody is nice... some sounds could be changed though imo
overall its not something id play cause its too dry... the bass is not the main element in the track u should put more bass... a phat bass

but man go on its really a good production

what do u use? cubase?


Posted by all-nite-freak on Feb-21-2006 20:48:

i liked it...it was certainly different than anything im used to, but it is far from being bad.


Posted by Aureus on Feb-21-2006 20:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Mekroon
u should put more bass... a phat bass


agreed


Posted by moevalith on Feb-21-2006 21:22:

I would've posted on the production forum but I honestly prefer to hear what the montreal crowd has to say.

Yeah I should've added an osc of a lower octave for my lead square synth, would make the low end sound wet. The bassdrum might need a bit of a face lift, it's missin that warmth i'm looking for.

Mekroon; I use reason 3, its wires works wonders for me, but I also use wavelab to wave edit, exploit vsts and master my tracks. What do you use?

Cheers guys I'll keep all of you posted with my next production


Posted by Mitsutranza on Feb-22-2006 02:01:

Moooooeeeeeee!!!!

Watch out for moevalith people...hes gonna ROMP the scene in 3-4 years.

This is a sick track moe. I love it, love the melody...

Mayo maybe u could do a remix of it?

Fanciulli would appreciate this song I think. So I have to wonder what the number one Fanciulli fan thinks of the track? Taha?


MT


Posted by DJ Charlie on Feb-22-2006 03:07:

You asked for brutal feedback ? I'll give you a brutal one

My nintendo sounds better than this !


no seriously... you should try to remake the song but with heavier sounds. Like Mekroon suggested you... phater bass will help

have a listen to Micheal Burns - Fowards
if you can make your song sound a bit more like this.. it will help a lot


Posted by Caela on Feb-22-2006 03:48:

great track man...

but the more bass the more danceable it is!! (imo )...i wanna hear that thump, the one that makes me jump up instead of tapping my foot. good melody, i like when it climbs high and then releases...lots of anticipation throughout the song...just add some more bass and then repost!

edit: btw happy belated birthday!


Posted by ninjahola on Feb-22-2006 04:14:

Amazing Mo....i love it.


Posted by dj ugo on Feb-22-2006 05:06:

I have a question for you...What feeling do you want to create whit your production??


Posted by moevalith on Feb-22-2006 05:41:

Mitsutranza;
heh man i can only hope to make it to 1/10 of where i'd like to be by 3-4 years, anywho u know me I be sacraficing the hours regardless, can't chill at urs for more than an hour without getting inspired :P

dj charlie;
heavier sounds, yeah i'll definately have to come around engineering more prominent sounds who rest tighter. Bassdrums could be very hard to make up though, could take me days to make one up from many different samples, but that's only coz i like to make my own.

Ceala;
Cheers for the happy b-day My next one should be a proper bash with juan on ableton and hopefully (fingers crossed) mitsu on the visuals, and i agree my bassdrum is too plastic for the solid mtl crowd

Ninjahola;
cheers m8, if you ever plan to pass by ottowa and don't mind me loading you up with demos let me know

dj ugo;
About your feeling question, it's very hard to answer because my track was a intuitive production, not really a conceptual, so i didnt have one specific "vision" but worked with ideas i've developed over the time. This is probably why my track lacks the groove the industry wants, people dont want ideas they want bent ideas with style. Why do you ask though? Do you feel something?


Posted by Caela on Feb-22-2006 05:44:

quote:
Originally posted by moevalith
Caela;
Cheers for the happy b-day My next one should be a proper bash with juan on ableton and hopefully (fingers crossed) mitsu on the visuals, and i agree my bassdrum is too plastic for the solid mtl crowd


duuude that would be dopezor...and where teh fuck is JUANNNNN!!! u guys gotta get him on TA


Posted by moevalith on Feb-22-2006 05:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Caela
duuude that would be dopezor...and where teh fuck is JUANNNNN!!! u guys gotta get him on TA


Heh its as if theres a list of people just waiting for him to join lol, i was just with him an hour ago he said he'd join soon but he's got some org to manage so he's been busy. Soontimes though we'll bug him enough


Posted by Aureus on Feb-22-2006 07:03:

quote:
Originally posted by moevalith
..he's got some orgy to manage so he's been busy. Soontimes though we'll bug him enough


like menage a trois?


Posted by Mitsutranza on Feb-22-2006 17:51:

Menage a trois' are nice...

Juan's a lazy mofo, I've been telling him about TA for the past year but nothing...

Don't worry tho, he'll start posting soon.

Keep making those tracks Moe, I dont know if you ever envision where your production could be played and would sound best in...like this one would fit in (as it is) in an acid lounge very nicely..

Think club next time and then we can hear some ing basslines that will make all TAs be like


MT


Posted by asfdz on Feb-22-2006 21:04:

juan will get his ass on here....he's just slow about things. Busy saving the world or something literally!!


Posted by aria_clubber on Feb-22-2006 21:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Azia
juan will get his ass on here....he's just slow about things. Busy saving the world or something literally!!

juan is a very busy smokin his mariJUANa

btw, moe, ur track is pretty insane more i listen to it more i appreciate it.
keep em comming, u have alot of talent.


Posted by Mekroon on Feb-22-2006 21:40:

who is Mayo???

im using Cubase
i hate programs like reason
its so limited and u cant imagine the difference of sound it makes just by getting the sound out of cubase instead of reason

i convinced, in a matter of a year lets say, my best friend to use cubase and when he finally accepted to try, it took me 30 minutes to learn him the basics and he has never touched reason again

i have to get a better computer though cause it gets hard to finish a track when it has more than 2 or 3 vst and lets say 10 samples...

its running on 333ddr memory so its not fast enough for cubase

imo never think about doing something for some people... if ure not into making house or more accessible music dont force it anyway im sure if u even try to, it wont come out as something u would have like to create... i speak for myself but when i try to make housy tracks and ask people what they think about it they say nice electro track


Posted by Mitsutranza on Feb-22-2006 21:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Mekroon
who is Mayo???



You are

Or at least I thought so..

Mekroon then...remix this track coz I heard your stuff and it's VERY GOOD..your style and Moe's combined could make for killer remixes.

MT


Posted by ninjahola on Feb-22-2006 21:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Mitsutranza
You are

Or at least I thought so..

Mekroon then...remix this track coz I heard your stuff and it's VERY GOOD..your style and Moe's combined could make for killer remixes.

MT


MEO


Posted by Mekroon on Feb-22-2006 22:02:

hehe i thought it was impossible to be someone else:P

[email protected]

Moe vs Meo - tu reves a ca

next bomb lol

anyway i would need the wav files
no .rsn


Posted by moevalith on Feb-22-2006 22:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Mekroon
who is Mayo???

im using Cubase
i hate programs like reason
its so limited and u cant imagine the difference of sound it makes just by getting the sound out of cubase instead of reason

i convinced, in a matter of a year lets say, my best friend to use cubase and when he finally accepted to try, it took me 30 minutes to learn him the basics and he has never touched reason again

i have to get a better computer though cause it gets hard to finish a track when it has more than 2 or 3 vst and lets say 10 samples...

its running on 333ddr memory so its not fast enough for cubase

imo never think about doing something for some people... if ure not into making house or more accessible music dont force it anyway im sure if u even try to, it wont come out as something u would have like to create... i speak for myself but when i try to make housy tracks and ask people what they think about it they say nice electro track


Reason is the lamest program on earth if you don't know it too well, you really have to grasp the wiring, it really makes you more independant as a producer too. I mean you can rewire it onto cubase/ableton and use vsts, apart from that you can implement your vsts onto your waves and then export those same waves into reason. But its just amazing, you can route so many devices in the way you want and not worry about your hardware getting fried. Besides, i prefer working with midi sequencers over audio ones.

But still, it doesnt matter what program you use to produce don't you think? No need for software politix. Its a matter of how well you represent and balance all the frequencies in our audible sound spectrum, not what program you used with what plugins and with who or when. Its also about how well you know your equipment, sound, edm ideas, and of course how you plan on exploiting them to satisfy yer catastrophic sound abusive imagination. James holden made his first single horizons on a freeware app, stormed the scene and made everyone realise you don't need an expensive studio to make a track but more like a collection of ideas.

2/3 Vsts at a time? Sounds to me you need an upgrade

I need to learn logic someday, i'll just wait to get slapped with a 60320page manual.


Posted by Mekroon on Feb-22-2006 22:24:

i dont think that reason is good its just my opinion

theres many ways i can work with my computer as it is but it takes more time and sometimes im so pissed i stop doing music

for now i can work with it but when i feel like doing music and that it starts frying it doesnt help for those times i dont necessarly feel like doing beat


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