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questions about soccer, or er football...

OK guys, so here is the deal. I live in Texas where there is little or no coverage of soccer(except the pathetic MLS), and I have recently have become somewhat interested in European and international soccer, especially leading up to the World Cup this summer. I am simply amazed by how passionate soccer fans overseas can be, and it's a big reason why I've become interested. I am extremely knowledgeable about most other sports, but I don't know all that much about soccer. I've been able to pick up what I can by watching some games on ESPN, but I still have a lot of questions. I would very grateful if some of you could share your expertise with me. Let me also preface this by saying I realize how passionate some of you are about your local or national teams, so please do not tell me how bad the USA sucks, or launch into a long explanation of why your club rules. Let me also apologize if I am offending anyone by using the word soccer. Here are some of the questions I have:

1. How is a champion crowned in the English Premier league?
2. How exactly does the UEFA cup work?
3. What is the most prestigous title a club team can win?
4. (Briefly) What the hell happened to Manchester United, with the whole fans in black protest thing and all?
5. Why is Real Madrid so average with all those superstar players?
6. Who would you rank as the top 5-10 players in the world?
7. From what I understand, if USA advances through it's draw in the World Cup, we will have to play Brazil in one of the next two rounds. I know they will be heavily favored, but we are ranked #6 now, so is there any chance we could beat them? How often do underdogs win big soccer matches?
8. Is there anything else interesting or important I should know?

I have more questions, but I'll leave it at this for now. Thanks in advance for your time.

Matt

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1. How is a champion crowned in the English Premier league?
I believe the winner get this CUP:

2. How exactly does the UEFA cup work?
UEFa cup is "the little brother" of the UEFA Champions League. In the Champions league all the best clubs in Europe play against each other. First in a group stage of 4 teams. There are about 8 groups or so. After that theres a draw for the next fixtures in which 2 teams take on one and other in a knock out stage, after that quarter finals, semis and then final. Ditto for UEFA Cup but the teams that play there are the teams that simply didnt make it to the Champions League. And, after the group stage of the Champions league, the nr3 of the group can go -as a consolation price- to the next leg of the UEFA CUP.

3. What is the most prestigous title a club team can win?
UEFA Champions League

4. (Briefly) What the hell happened to Manchester United, with the whole fans in black protest thing and all?
Dunno, maybe about that rich American dude that wanted to buy the club ...

5. Why is Real Madrid so average with all those superstar players?
Haha, i could go for five pages for this question... To keep it objective though: theres no explanation for that, if i would know i'ld be making big � in Madrid (chich i would refuse off course)

6. Who would you rank as the top 5-10 players in the world?
Ronaldinho (Bar�a), Samuel Eto'o(Bar�a), Schevchenko (AC Milan), Thierry Henry (Arsenal), Zinedine Zidane (Real Madrid), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool) Buffon (Juventus)

7. From what I understand, if USA advances through it's draw in the World Cup, we will have to play Brazil in one of the next two rounds. I know they will be heavily favored, but we are ranked #6 now, so is there any chance we could beat them? How often do underdogs win big soccer matches?

To be honest, no, brazil are once more the big favorites for this World Cup, they have a huge selection, and an absolute football dream team. Its not unusual in footbaal that underdogs win the game so theres always hope, anything can happen so i'ld keep hoping, but brasil will probably be a bit too big for you guys.

8. Is there anything else interesting or important I should know?

Watch FC Barcelona if you want to see the most beautiful football on this planet at the moment.

You just did his homework there.

a 10ner that this person asking this question is irectum

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Originally posted by MW17cc 5. Why is Real Madrid so average with all those superstar players?

I wouldn't ask this.

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Originally posted by MW17cc 1. How is a champion crowned in the English Premier league?

There are twenty teams...and they play each other twice. At the end of the 38 games...the team with the most points at the end of the season wins.

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Originally posted by MW17cc 8. Is there anything else interesting or important I should know?

'Some people believe football is a matter of life and death.
I'm very disappointed with that attitude.
I can assure you it is much, much more important than that.' - Bill Shankly

Check out this
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yVpBq1BNV8o
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FqNlrfGZULs

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Originally posted by The_G0dfather 5. Why is Real Madrid so average with all those superstar players? Haha, i could go for five pages for this question... To keep it objective though: theres no explanation for that, if i would know i'ld be making big � in Madrid (chich i would refuse off course)

balls ... u know ud run to madrid with ur barca jersey stickin out ur rectum

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Originally posted by The_G0dfather 3. What is the most prestigous title a club team can win? UEFA Champions League 6. Who would you rank as the top 5-10 players in the world? Ronaldinho (Bar�a), Samuel Eto'o(Bar�a), Schevchenko (AC Milan), Thierry Henry (Arsenal), Zinedine Zidane (Real Madrid), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool) Buffon (Juventus)

3) I think most clubs (england, italy and spain) would put winning their local leagues above the champions league.

5) I agree with most but i would put terry or nesta over zidane ...

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Originally posted by MW17cc 1. How is a champion crowned in the English Premier league? 2. How exactly does the UEFA cup work? 3. What is the most prestigous title a club team can win? 4. (Briefly) What the hell happened to Manchester United, with the whole fans in black protest thing and all? 5. Why is Real Madrid so average with all those superstar players? 6. Who would you rank as the top 5-10 players in the world? 7. From what I understand, if USA advances through it's draw in the World Cup, we will have to play Brazil in one of the next two rounds. I know they will be heavily favored, but we are ranked #6 now, so is there any chance we could beat them? How often do underdogs win big soccer matches? 8. Is there anything else interesting or important I should know?

1. there are 20 teams, and they play each other twice (once at home and once away), the team with the most points at the end of the 38 games is crowned champion.

2. UEFA Cup or UEFA Champions League ?

3. at home it would be the local championship (in england EPL, in spain La Liga, in italy Serie A, etc ...) and the cup. in europe the UEFA Champions League, in South America Copa Libertadores, in Africa the CAF Champions League, etc ...

4. Manure was bought by a rich American who will soon transfer the team to the NFL, it's gonna happen in the next year. for more questions about MANURE, please refer to raveed

5. because they're gay hahahahaha, they're only there for the money, they are sold out pricks, etc ... when people take advantage of the summer break to rest and prepare for the next season, stupid real madrid goes all around the world playing stupid games for stupid groupies to collect more $$$ so that they can buy their expensive gay players who end up not performing well, it's not that hard to figure. fuck the putos.

6. RONALDINHO, SAMUEL ETO'O, LIONEL MESSI, all the rest is crap or too old now or inconsistent (specially the italian lads, they suck).

7. there is no fuckin chance in this world or the other USA is going to beat brazil hahahahaha and that FIFA ranking crap is bullshit, it's like saying Tiesto is the best dj in the world hahahahahaha n00b

8. YES NOOB, some of the stuff i said is bullshit i made up just for fun (the manure going to NFL), but all the rest is true. and i'm known to be the most annoying over-confident prick in the sports forum (but it's all an act)

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Originally posted by MW17cc 5. Why is Real Madrid so average with all those superstar players?

Because they're old and unmotivated. Real Madrid stars' good times finished in 2003.

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Originally posted by K.I.K.E. Because they're old and unmotivated. Real Madrid stars' good times finished in 2003.

exactly

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Originally posted by MW17cc 1. How is a champion crowned in the English Premier league?

answered already a couple times, basically it's a league where whoever gets more points is the champion (3 points for win, 1 for draw in case you didn't know already ), there's no playoffs or knockout stage or anything like that

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2. How exactly does the UEFA cup work?

participants are the teams that almost qualified for the Champions League, and the teams that get knocked out of the Champions League in the early stages. the format is really strange nowadays, with a two-leg knockout round, then a weird group stage with 5 teams per group where they only play each other once, then two-leg knockout till the end except the one-leg final

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3. What is the most prestigous title a club team can win?

UEFA Champions League, although it can be debated that the new FIFA World Club Championship is the real world champion title but Liverpool this year didn't even want to participate in that I disagree with raveed, the Champions League is definitely more important than any national title, even in the strongest leagues. It's just that it's a lot more unpredictable, a bad match can throw them out so a season cannot only depend on that - that's why managers are fired if the league position is too low, but not if the teams get knocked out early of the CL.

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4. (Briefly) What the hell happened to Manchester United, with the whole fans in black protest thing and all?

haven't heard anything on this

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5. Why is Real Madrid so average with all those superstar players?

Lack of stability (3 managers per season average), lack of team spirit (too many egos), incompetent squad sense in buying players (too many forwards, they value players' reputation way too much over their actual quality), players getting old (Zidane and Roberto Carlos are definitely near retiring), incredibly huge expectations (winning both league and Champions League is always expected).

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6. Who would you rank as the top 5-10 players in the world?

Goalies: Gianluigi Buffon (italian, Juventus), Petr Cech (czech, Chelsea)
Defenders: John Terry (english, Chelsea)
Midfielders: Ronaldinho (brazilian, Barcelona), Frank Lampard (english, Chelsea), Kak� (brazilian, AC Milan), Steven Gerrard (english, Liverpool)
Forwards: Andryi Shevchenko (ukranian, AC Milan), Samuel Eto'o (cameroonese(sp?), Barcelona), Thierry Henry (french, Arsenal)

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7. From what I understand, if USA advances through it's draw in the World Cup, we will have to play Brazil in one of the next two rounds. I know they will be heavily favored, but we are ranked #6 now, so is there any chance we could beat them? How often do underdogs win big soccer matches?

Umm that's slightly wrong. If both USA and Brazil go through, they either play each other in the next round or in the final (not the quarter-finals). I don't rate USA as low as some people here, but they're definitely not the 6th best team in the world and against Brazil, who are definitely the best team in the world, would probably have a chance in 10.

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8. Is there anything else interesting or important I should know?

One of the antecipated games of the season is today: Chelsea-Barcelona. Don't miss that one.

Thanks guys, you've been very helpful.

Sounds like not very good news about Brasil. Hopefully if we play them they will all get food poisoning on the day of the match or something, oh well...

Thanks for heads up on the Chelsea- Barcelona match, I just checked and it's on TV here today, so I'm definitely going to watch it.

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Originally posted by MW17cc Thanks for heads up on the Chelsea- Barcelona match, I just checked and it's on TV here today, so I'm definitely going to watch it.

enjoy yourself, this is th� clash of the titans

and remember, there is still a 2nd leg to be played after this game so the result isnt final yet

and remember, Barca is the best team in the world

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Originally posted by fastmp3 and remember, Barca is the best team in the world

no, it's just your fav...

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Originally posted by MW17cc Sounds like not very good news about Brasil. Hopefully if we play them they will all get food poisoning on the day of the match or something, oh well...

I don't think you'll advance to the 1/8 finals

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Originally posted by Cloud no, it's just your fav...

STFU greek boy

ok well the first half of the Chelsea- Barcelona game was like watching paint dry, but the second half was thrilling, what a game! what was the deal with the field? it was horrible.

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Originally posted by MW17cc ok well the first half of the Chelsea- Barcelona game was like watching paint dry, but the second half was thrilling, what a game! what was the deal with the field? it was horrible.

after last season they put out new grass but it got some weird disease and the grass is dying and they cant put out new before the league is finnsihed soo they put out sand on the field, well thats what the they said on the Swedish tv when I saw the game

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Originally posted by fastmp3 STFU greek boy

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Originally posted by MW17cc ok well the first half of the Chelsea- Barcelona game was like watching paint dry, but the second half was thrilling, what a game! what was the deal with the field? it was horrible.

Chelsea flooded their pitch with water in the days before the game to make the surface as bad as possible. Teams which play good passing football (like barcelona) usually find it difficult to play on a crap surface, because the ball will bobble around a lot, making their passes innaccurate and unpredictable. Since chelsea play defensive counter-attacking football with lots of long balls and rely on free kicks and corners a lot for goals, they were hoping this would give them a big advantage (obviously the surface of the pitch doesnt affect the ball when its in the air).
Inferior teams often use tactics such as this.

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Originally posted by Xavier Check out this http://youtube.com/watch?v=yVpBq1BNV8o http://youtube.com/watch?v=FqNlrfGZULs

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