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Posted by dj darroch on Feb-22-2006 01:27:

Exclamation CDJ 1000 MK3 - features & pic!



All for a cool �2,190 - US$2600 - �1500 (think this is a pair)

http://www.sacom.ch/index.php?id=d1!4!3!2!86477


Posted by dj darroch on Feb-22-2006 02:14:

Just fresh on the site -

DJResource.nl > Pioneer CDJ-1000MK3


Posted by Xtracktor on Feb-22-2006 02:16:

http://www.djdeals.com/pioneerCDJ1000MK3.htm

$1249.00 USD


Posted by punjabi on Feb-22-2006 02:38:

meh


Posted by Spirit5 on Feb-22-2006 03:05:

I already have MK2s, I don't think it would have made sense to wait and get this with some extra features, although I probably would have gotten the MK2s cheaper, but I doubt clubs are going to rush out and install these, as many even still have the original MK1s. I don't need MP3 playback, or that silver sensitivity and speed adjuster for the platter.


Posted by brinboston on Feb-22-2006 03:44:

sup everyone.....

so the quote on djdeals is correct? quite a bit lower than the earlier post....

anyways, i have a pair of the mk2s as well and i have no intention of upgrading. mp3 support was expected, but nothing groundbreaking IMO. i would, however, pick up an 800mk2 as a third deck to layer another track on top of my mixes.....

anyone know how much the 800 is gonna go for? i wonder what this is going to do to the price of the 1000mk2s....

- brian


Posted by Spirit5 on Feb-22-2006 05:39:

quote:
Originally posted by brinboston
sup everyone.....

so the quote on djdeals is correct? quite a bit lower than the earlier post....

anyways, i have a pair of the mk2s as well and i have no intention of upgrading. mp3 support was expected, but nothing groundbreaking IMO. i would, however, pick up an 800mk2 as a third deck to layer another track on top of my mixes.....

anyone know how much the 800 is gonna go for? i wonder what this is going to do to the price of the 1000mk2s....

- brian


Yeah that would be cool, getting the 800 MK2, if only it has the .02 pitch resolution, with the 6% pitch range instead of just the .05 with 10%. To me that does make a difference in my mixes, especially when layering tracks and doing more complex stuff where accuracy matters, esp when your mixing multiple genres, as sometimes I try to mix in trance, house and breaks, and even some downtempo and ambient to begin with.


Posted by Dave Nadz on Feb-22-2006 05:49:

Hummm ... Not imprest about de features added on this new CDJ ...


Posted by T-Soma on Feb-22-2006 05:59:

Interesting i was expecting more but then again it is an mk3 not a new cd player so meh.
Looks like they made lots of improvement with visiblty though.


Posted by Tegu on Feb-22-2006 06:05:

still no release date


Posted by Mimoza on Feb-22-2006 09:20:

Price
CDJ-800MK2 � 879,- (incl. BTW)
CDJ-1000MK3 � 1499,- (incl. BTW)

Release date
CDJ-800MK2: Maart 2006
CDJ-1000MK3: April 2006

source: djresource.nl


Posted by Freak on Feb-22-2006 10:52:

grrrr
it does hot loops


Still not worth the extra cash tho.


Posted by Xtracktor on Feb-22-2006 12:14:

Some high res pics taken from the pioneer forums:



As well as some FAQ taken from the pioneer boards (Also on the 800 mk2 thread):

Q: CDJ-1000Mk3: What are the resistance ranges in the
"Jog Feel Adjust"?
A: All the way to the left is the same resistance as the CDJ-800(mk1). About 1pm is the CDJ-1000mk2. All the way to the right is slightly heavier than the 1000Mk2.

Q: Why are the prices more expensive than the 800(Mk1) and 1000Mk2?
A: More stuff and more improvements over those players

Q: What if we just purchased a 1000mk2 or 800(mk1)? Do you guys have a upgrade trade in program?
A: No. If you just purchased they will have been cheaper than what you will have to pay for the new models. So if you really think you need the new features then sell the old ones and get the new ones.

Q: When will they REALLY hit the stores.
A: For sure beginning of April. Possibly end of March.

Q: If the 800Mk2 has been increased to 4000 cue point memory. 10 per CD x 400 CDs. How much did the 800(mk1) have?
A: 500

Q: What does it mean that the 800Mk2 mimics the 1000mk2 jog feel.
A: The 800 no longer will have that super light feel. It will have the heavier feel of the 1000Mk2

Q: What if I like the feel of the 800 (Mk1).
A: Get the 1000Mk3 which you can fine tune to have that super light feel.

Q: Is the resume function on these new players the same as the resume on the CDJ200?
A: Yes

Q: Is the Hot Loop on the Mk3 the same as the Hot Loop on the DVJ?
A: Yes

Q: Am I correct to understand that the pitch in wide when using MP3 is +70% where as the pitch when playing CD is +100%? If so why is that.
A: Yes you are correct. The reason why is just BECAUSE.

Q: Is the reason that the 1000Mk2 has been so hard to find because you guys were discontinuing the line?
A: Yes and No. Yes we knew we were going to introduce a new player however we thought we had ordered enough to fill demand through April. However over the last 18 months Pioneer (Worldwide) has experienced a record sales growth on our turntables. Literally the demand outweighed the supply.

Q: When will the product be available in Europe.
A: Around the same as US

Q: When will the product be available in Australia?
A: Australia is usually a month behind the rest of the countries however check with them to be sure.

Q: What's the deal with the little door for the memory card?
A: The door was placed as a protection. Not that it has ever happened to anyone I know but in the old model if you accidentally removed the card when writing to it the card would be permanently damaged. This way you cannot write to the card when the door is open.

Q: The CDJ-800Mk2 says it has a metalic look non slip jog dial. Is this the same as the DVJ?
A: Same look however a different composite material that is not as slippery as the DVJ. Has the same texture as the 1000Mk2.

Q: The wave display on the 1000Mk3 looks differente
A: Yes you are correct because the Mk2 was 50 dots wide the Mk3 is 100 dots wide.

Q: Am I correct to understand that the 1000Mk3 now can use SD as well as MMC cards just like the DVJ can?
A: YES

Q: Why didn't Pioneer make the Mk3 a rotating platter.
A: The CDJ patented jog dial technolgy has been around since 2000. It's the industry standard and what ALL top DJs ask for on their riders. All other rotating platters do a poor job of emulating a turntable. So we will stick to what we know best and continue with this jog dial format.

Q: Will Pioneer be offering system cases for these players with your mixers.
A: No however the foot print of these players as well as the new DJM800 is the same as the previous models. Many case companies already exist and market cases for these players.

Q: The press release says more data is available now. What does that exactly mean.
A: The longer wave display and more text display. The old player had 10 characters the new one has 16 characters.

Q: Is the wave read the same speed as the mk2
A: Wave Data reading speed is faster thatn Mk2

Q: What doea it mean improved Super Fast Manual Search
A: Normal Mk2 and 800 reads 80x speed when super fast is engaged
NEW Mk3 has step levels of speed so the faster you turn the faster the super fast reads. I.e. 5x � 10x � 20x � 40x � 80x � 160x

Original Page is here: Click


Posted by dj darroch on Feb-22-2006 12:33:

�795 for one cdj1000 mk3


Posted by T-Soma on Feb-22-2006 12:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Xtracktor
Q: What if I like the feel of the 800 (Mk1).
A: Get the 1000Mk3 which you can fine tune to have that super light feel.

Q: Am I correct to understand that the pitch in wide when using MP3 is +70% where as the pitch when playing CD is +100%? If so why is that.
A: Yes you are correct. The reason why is just BECAUSE.


Those answers seem very blunt along with a few others.
Funny how the figured out the light platter may be an upside so they put it on the 1000 so that you have to buy that.


Posted by Freak on Feb-22-2006 13:08:

quote:
Q: What if we just purchased a 1000mk2 or 800(mk1)? Do you guys have a upgrade trade in program?
A: No. If you just purchased they will have been cheaper than what you will have to pay for the new models. So if you really think you need the new features then sell the old ones and get the new ones.


Kind of sums up pioneers apalling attitude really.
they keep it secret-and they have been denying it for months and months until they were blue in the face, then wonder why people moan having just bought some just as the new model is announced.

I mean, i just bought three of the fockers, and although MP3 bollocks does not interest me in the slightest- thats kind of beside the point. Hot looping interests me, but not enough to spend the extra $- but it would have been nice to know.

Im happy with the mk2s, dont get me wrong- but pioneers customer philosophy (which is evident on their boards) stinks.


Posted by Ryan0751 on Feb-22-2006 16:01:

Well those Q/A's likely came from Pulse, who's a moderator on the pioneerprodjforums. Those forums have so many rules and so much attitude it's painful to read.

I'm just really dissapointed that they are MORE expensive then the MK2's, which were ALREADY overpriced. They didn't exactly add a whole lot of features.

I'd say the DN-S3500 is a much better value at this point, even if it isn't the "industry standard".

quote:
Originally posted by Freak
Kind of sums up pioneers apalling attitude really.
they keep it secret-and they have been denying it for months and months until they were blue in the face, then wonder why people moan having just bought some just as the new model is announced.

I mean, i just bought three of the fockers, and although MP3 bollocks does not interest me in the slightest- thats kind of beside the point. Hot looping interests me, but not enough to spend the extra $- but it would have been nice to know.

Im happy with the mk2s, dont get me wrong- but pioneers customer philosophy (which is evident on their boards) stinks.


Posted by spit_heron on Feb-22-2006 16:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Freak
grrrr
it does hot loops


Still not worth the extra cash tho.


can someone give a quick explanation of how this works? Thanks.


Posted by Freak on Feb-22-2006 17:34:

quote:
Originally posted by spit_heron
can someone give a quick explanation of how this works? Thanks.


Sure

On the mk2, with the top three buttons on the top left (A,B,C) you could record/mark three different cue points on. You hit the button and the track jumps to them instantly.
With the mk3, they have made it so not just cue points are stored- but loops are, hence you can jump between three different loops at any time.


Posted by idoru on Feb-22-2006 23:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Mimoza
Price
CDJ-800MK2 � 879,- (incl. BTW)


No way. I scored my two 800s for about $450 USD each. I refuse to pay over $600 (when they're asking for over $1,000) for something that doesn't really improve on what's already in existence.

Pioneer makes some very, very high-quality equipment, but they just lost a bunch of points in my book.


Posted by generic on Apr-26-2006 14:15:

wonder if they play vbr mp3
won't be buying them for that sort of money anyway though


Posted by Omega_Blue on Apr-27-2006 03:40:

i'd be more willing to buy these if they had a wave readout like traktor. that'd be badass.


Posted by mzvirbulis on Apr-27-2006 11:28:

hey who cares about industry standard, you gonna come around some many different piceces of equipment during your djing times. so i would like to add that i recently dj at an odd event (they invited me off the street lol), i finished work walking home and there was a party. i knew one guy, they shout'd me some alcohol and i stay'd around chatting. the music was going and the dude i knew rememberd that i dj. everyone there love edm so i said would you like me to come over and play some music.
bought 2 cretes over. they really enjoyed the 4 tracks i played LOL.

anyways they had to take things inside cos it got to loud (cops came but everthing was all ok) as it was a residential area.

i had never used a djm 600 mixer and 800's before yet i djed well on the mixer. i dont use cd's so i used his, couldnt believe that the guy only had p2p stuff and most werent dj friendly in a way. still i was amazed how well i djed with the 800's also having no previous experience with cdj's. from my perspective the 800's had a nice feel!

so really my point is who cares if its standard or not because you will get well adapted to the equipment most times!

buy what you feel you want to buy and what works for you it wont matter to much if your experienced!


Posted by Keith Chambers on Apr-30-2006 23:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Freak
Kind of sums up pioneers apalling attitude really.
they keep it secret-and they have been denying it for months and months until they were blue in the face, then wonder why people moan having just bought some just as the new model is announced.

I mean, i just bought three of the fockers, and although MP3 bollocks does not interest me in the slightest- thats kind of beside the point. Hot looping interests me, but not enough to spend the extra $- but it would have been nice to know.

Im happy with the mk2s, dont get me wrong- but pioneers customer philosophy (which is evident on their boards) stinks.


Yes it would have been nice to know. I'm sure the competition would have liked to know as well though. Some companies choose to stay competitive by keeping future plans secret. A&H didn't with their still-to-be-released 3d. If I were them I would have kept that bad boy under wraps. The DJM-800 with it's fully MIDI is going to be a serious competitor and at a much lower price point. I would imagine Pioneer did a few things different because A&H had laid all their cards on the table so early.

Apple is the master of this approach. Nobody saw the Nano coming. The MacBook wasn't known until the night before, Intel for OSX was kept under wraps until only days before the announcement. Apple lives and dies (and thrives) by being first to market.

And I don't think they denied anything did they? They said they are always working on newer revs of their products. A bunch of sites made it clear they had low stock and expected something new shortly. I might have missed the denial and if they said they weren't that going to ship a new CDJ that would be shitty. But no-comment would sit OK with me.

Somebody will have always bought something the day before a new rev was announced. It's happened to me and it sucks but you can't blame them for it. Customers enjoy being informed but at the end of the day I think the team that gets their product to market first wins. Keeping it under wraps, if at all possible, helps you be first.

My .02 anyway...


Posted by Greedy on May-01-2006 14:47:

whenever something is considered industry standard, it isnt because the dj "GOD" appointed it to be. Pioneer CDJs has proven itself as a sturdy piece of equipment from the CDJ-500s up to the 1000s. The only CDJ I had problems with for the first time are the 200s. If you practice on Pioneers, it only makes sense to perform on Pioneers for your gig.

Im not saying that Pioneers make the best equipment, but if you find yourself playing on other venue's equipment, then you need to go with Pioneer. If you have the luxery of lugging around your equipment to gigs and throwing your own events, then I would say use Denons. Just be prepared that other DJs will trainwreck on your setup just because they havent used equipment other than Pioneer and that could really bust your party.

A lot of ppl complain that Pioneer on a whole arent really innovative when it comes to extra features etc. But to me, it all makes sense. You can very well end up with having CDJs and your mixer having the same looping and filter features. And if you want to get the EFX units to be extra creative, you have all these functions x 3. Its pretty obvious that Pioneer isnt going to put effects on their CDJs because if they did, why would you need to get the EFX unit for simple effects? And if you want to do serious effects, why have a CDJ with basic effects that you dont plan on using and adding more circuitry in the box itself?


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