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Hearing Protection?

I never go out anymore to a club or party without wearing some ear plugs. I figure I expose myself to enough loud music when Im spinning I dont need to add more when I go out for the night. In addition to this I have experinced some hearing complications in my right ear but according to my doctor it is from an infection from a bad head cold I had in November.

Anyone know about hearing protection that producers or dj's use? When I try and use the ear plugs you get at the local drug store it seems they block out too much and it affects my mixing. I heard of producers using special ear plugs that are designed to block out the most harmful frequencies but still allow you too hear the sound clearly. Does anyone know what these are and where they can be purchased?

w3rd...
i too need to protect my hearing

i think those ones that the musicians wear are supposed to be good and stuffs...

can someone help us out, i need some edumacation

Just suck it up and go deaf like everybody else. It's the price you have to pay for fame and fortune of the DJ biz =).

Seriously now, go to your local audiologist and ask them about custom moulded musician earplugs. They'll probably set you back quite a bit ($150 - 200) but if your hearing is important to you, I guess that would be more than worth it.

being a DJ is making that sacrifice for loud music.. but im like you, i dont wanna go deaf and pump the headphones on 100%.. only enough for me to hear the song. There was a website i found on hearing loss, and products for it, etc... but i forgot it.
though i did save a picture chart of hearing loss

most DJ's also have tinnitus, if not all

here is a good website for info:

http://www.hear-more.com/musician.htm

but im trying to find one which was a lot better and more informed...

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Originally posted by skywarp Just suck it up and go deaf like everybody else. It's the price you have to pay for fame and fortune of the DJ biz =).

This is TERRIBLE !!!

Thanks for the info everyone. I think everyone who dj's should be made aware of the risks involved when exposing yourself to loud music continuously. Ignoring this could result in serious damage to your hearing.

Alot of people dont realize how easy it is to damage your hearing. Please take caution because once you damage it, there is no turning back. Sometimes we take for granted all the natural abilities we have been given as humans.

Please take care =]

You don't need to lose your hearing...

Sennheiser just came out with a new set of headphones that's made for DJ's, and should compete well with the other ones I am all happy about...

http://www.sennheiserusa.com/pages/...ones/280pro.htm

And Etymotic makes the best earplugs in the world...

http://www.etymotic.com/musicians/more20.asp

As well as the best inside-the-ear, musician's earphones in the world...

http://www.etymotic.com/product_lis...ct_number=ER-4S

See? No reason to go deaf.

But what i think that doesnt make sense is the fact that the only reason why people play their headphones loud is because of background volumes.. so why dont manufacturers produce noise-cancelling DJ headphones?? I know they make them already, but not DJ specific ones.

This would also be very popular to all DJ's because the background noise isnt so necessary when cueing up, and when you need to mix either do it in you headphones or take one ear off.

This would save a lot of ear drums..! :P

BTW, is soundproof glass expensive? might put it around my headphones.. lol

That's because active noise cancelling is *significantly* worse than passive! Those Sennheiser HD280 Pro's cancel out an UTTERLY UNGODLY amount of outside sound, with passive only...

They might be something to give the MDR-V6's a run for their money. Who knows?

Here, look at this link!

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showt...p?threadid=5478

I would like to ask this question:

Do DJ's lose their hearing because they play loud music in their headphones, while cueing up the next record, -- OR because they're frequently exposed to the general loud music coming from the club speakers?

If it's the latter, then any frequent clubgoer would have the same problem.
If it's the former, it looks like there are concrete things that can be done.

So we have to understand this first, before we discuss hearing problems.

Gluegun, can Sony V6 protect the DJ's hearing at a normal club, in addition to its being a good set of headphones? Or do you only recommend it because of some other qualities?

The Sony MDR-V6 will block out a lot of sound, and even more with the pads, but those brand stinkin new Sennheisers (HD280 Pro's) block out even more.

i think i'll go with the earplugs...
being a producer, as well as a DJ, i really need my hearing for years to come

Sweet! Gonna get the ones I suggested?

Etymotic ER20?

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Originally posted by Gluegun Sweet! Gonna get the ones I suggested? Etymotic ER20?

Can you wholeheartedly recommend them as a solid, useful, and effective tool to safeguard one's hearing even in a loud environment, especially for a DJ?

If so I will certainly get them.
I already took your advice and bought the Sony-V6, so I do trust your opinions.

Thanks a lot for your expertise and input.

Yes, I can reccomend them for that purpose. you may even want to get the extra straps for them.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Eugene
[B]I would like to ask this question:

Do DJ's lose their hearing because they play loud music in their headphones, while cueing up the next record, -- OR because they're frequently exposed to the general loud music coming from the club speakers?

[QUOTE]

its both

how can/will this effect my mixing?

will i be able to hear the proper frequencies or will i have to learn to adapt?

later in life - 30-35, and its very possible to lose your hearing by this age even. If its not as bad, you ear drums wont be able to hear high frequencies like they used to.

It wont affect your mixing as of now, only that you will have to put the headphones music louder because your ears have adapted to that volume of sound. And since you dont mix 24/7, you might have problems listening to whispers, etc. when your arent mixing or playing music.

Thats why i regularly dont really want to accept call ups for club, gigs, etc. Cos you would have to over volume the headphones louder than what you can in the club sound system, which can be loud as hell.

Thats why i prefer to mix at home where i can control my volume on the stereo and headphones. I'm not going to lose my hearing later in life for pumping music in my ears when i could have taken control of the situation. Thats why i always wear earplugs in clubs, so that makes up for the loud volumes that are neccessary when mixing in clubs.

Tiesto, Carl Cox, PvD, etc. will probably be 50%+ deaf when they turn 50 - but thats their choice for stardum and what they love, or maybe they werent aware when they started. But i know that even though i LOVE trance music and most genres now, that when im 50 i will be thankful that i didnt risk my ear drums to music that would sound very weird to me (at 50).

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Originally posted by DJ Darchinova Thats why i regularly dont really want to accept call ups for club, gigs, etc. Cos you would have to over volume the headphones louder than what you can in the club sound system, which can be loud as hell. Thats why i prefer to mix at home where i can control my volume on the stereo and headphones. I'm not going to lose my hearing later in life for pumping music in my ears when i could have taken control of the situation. Thats why i always wear earplugs in clubs, so that makes up for the loud volumes that are neccessary when mixing in clubs.

Excellent point. People say it's bad to be a "bedroom DJ," but while they're getting their hearing impaired by regularly blasting music at clubs, I can work on my perfecting my technique, developing an individual style, and saving my hearing in the process. Does every DJ have to evolve into a regular club DJ? What if you do it as a hobby, as an art? You can still let others know about your skills, and your hearing will not degrade because of constant club performances.

Hey, anyone gotten those Ety's yet??

I've been using the ER-20's for the past 6 months when I go clubbing and I have to recommend them. They offer protection without the muffling of higher frequencies like ear plugs I have used in the past. For mixing though, the nobs stick out a bit too far to wear them with V6's.

You could probably mix while wearing some of their higher end earplugs, but these end up costing much much more.

What kind of damage would home listening cause? I dont listen at ear splitting volumes, but like to play it moderately loud whenever i listen (if any of you have klipsch speakers, I never turn the volume knob more than 1/3rd of the way up or so, and havent dared ever put it higher than 1/2)

Lately Ive been getting ringing in my ears when its dead quiet (something like the the hum of my computer or the air conditoner blowing will make it go away). Im worried that my good hearing is going to go bad . is there any way to measure the dB that your speakers are putting out? I read on one of those ear plug sites that your ears are safe at 85 dB for up to 8 hours.

Yes, you can buy a sound pressure level (spl) meter at radio shack and test how many dB everything is...

You only really need to put the softest volume on headphones so that you can hear the beats..

nrjizer : Is the ringing in your ears from clubs or headphones?

If its from a club it wont permanently damage your ears that bad, unless you go to club more than 2 times a week @ around 4 hours.
How many days does the rining last for and how long do you spend at club/headphones?

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