good production soundcards for notebooks

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Posted by soundrush on Feb-26-2006 15:31:

good production soundcards for notebooks

hello,
im looking for a good producing soundcard for my notebook. it has to be a pc card just like this . at the moment im using my notebooks onboard soundchip which performance is very constricted. i think that several guys in here use notebook for producing. any references?

greetings, niklas.

Posted by qiushiming on Feb-26-2006 19:50:

whats wrong with usb/firewire audio interfaces?

Posted by wrzonance on Feb-27-2006 02:16:

quote:
Originally posted by qiushiming
whats wrong with usb/firewire audio interfaces?

latency

Posted by wood0292 on Feb-27-2006 03:21:

quote:
Originally posted by DJFreaq
latency

I switched from Echo MIA(PCI) to MOTU Traveler(Firewire) and had no difference in latency, even while using all of the Ins/Outs. Maybe there is more latency on USB, but I don't think Firewire adds any latency.

I actually decided to upgrade to the MOTU so I could put a firewire card in my laptop and use the MOTU, but I may go for something more portable in the future.

If I were to get a PC card I would probably go for the Echo Indigo DJ, just because I have heard good things about them and have had good experience with the Echo Mia I have as well.

Posted by No Left Turn on Feb-27-2006 05:09:

i haven't noticed any major differences in latency between pci/pcmia/firewire interfaces. supposedly the transfer rate is supposed to be faster with firewire, but in my experiences i've seen the same latency times in regards to the buffer setting. although i don't have one, i'm a fan of the presonus firebox (fw).

Posted by T-Soma on Feb-27-2006 13:04:

Is it worth getting a firewire pcmi card to get an external firewire soundcard? I know its a very vague question but i think you get my point.

Posted by wood0292 on Feb-27-2006 15:25:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy
Is it worth getting a firewire pcmi card to get an external firewire soundcard? I know its a very vague question but i think you get my point.

It depends on what you need as far as I/O. If you are only buying a card for the DSP/ASIO then it makes sense to just get a PCMIA card, but if you need more than a few inputs/outputs it is definitely worth getting the firewire PCMCIA card an external souncard.

Posted by wrzonance on Feb-27-2006 17:35:

quote:
Originally posted by wood0292
but I don't think Firewire adds any latency.

Yea. USB sucks because of the extra bus it has to go though on your MOBO.

Firewire. Is a more direct route "I guess" since I'm no expert in specifically how it works.

*looks at USB Digidesign MBox*

Such a pile of dung. I only have it so I can use ProTools. Otherwise it's a paper weight.

AGH I hate latency.

Posted by T-Soma on Feb-28-2006 04:54:

My knowledge of audio interfaces is still very limited.
What are some good solutions for a laptop that has no firewire but i want two outs and one in.
Iv seen indigo dj card but it doesnt have any inputs (unless i missed it...)

Posted by (val)Liam on Mar-01-2006 07:49:

anyone try out the tc electronic powercore?

Posted by T-Soma on Mar-01-2006 08:01:

That was just a tad off topic...

Posted by Storyteller on Mar-01-2006 09:35:

quote:
Originally posted by wood0292
I switched from Echo MIA(PCI) to MOTU Traveler(Firewire) and had no difference in latency, even while using all of the Ins/Outs. Maybe there is more latency on USB, but I don't think Firewire adds any latency.

USB Doesn't add latency, but bandwidth is shared over all connected usb devices. So if you use multiple usb devices at once your audio could sound very bad. (not to mention the risk of having usb 1.0 slots on your pc, in that case your audio would definetely suck).

Fireware has 5ms of latency by default. That's due to the way the ahrdware is built. On the other hand you'll always have full bandwidth because the bandwidth isn't shared in this case.