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Posted by Aquascape on Mar-02-2006 17:36:

V Station keeps crashing FL Studio

I've been fiddling with the demo for a few weeks with no problems. I purchased the full version from Digital Village, installed it and as a result FL Studio keeps crashing. Ain't life a b****. You keep everything legit for a more stable system and this nonsense happens.

Any suggestions?


Posted by djlogik on Mar-03-2006 08:51:

What error do you get when it crashes?


Posted by DJ Shibby on Mar-03-2006 10:41:

Re: V Station keeps crashing FL Studio

quote:
Originally posted by Aquascape
I've been fiddling with the demo for a few weeks with no problems. I purchased the full version from Digital Village, installed it and as a result FL Studio keeps crashing. Ain't life a b****. You keep everything legit for a more stable system and this nonsense happens.

Any suggestions?


Same thing happens to me... 3.4 GHz hyperthreading, gig of ram, tons of disk space, and nice fast mobo and buses. Really nice laptop, but it crashes V-Station and Bass-Station, while my older PCs seem to have no problems at all. Weird.

Two things I always do now before adding a copy of V-Station: SAVE MY PROJECT. SAVE A NEW VERSION OF MY PROJECT TO BE SAFE.

Solutions I've found:

1. Keep opening the flp file or trying to add the instrument.. works usually by the 4th or 5th try.
2. Upgrade to the newest version; i noticed that the older version i had tended to really cause crashing more, about 70% more often actually.
3. Soundcard=?

Whether you pirated it or not you'll get the same error, so it's irrelevant... sorry that you wasted your money, but maybe you can get a refund or some tech feedback from the company at the least.

Cheers.


Posted by DeZmA on Mar-03-2006 11:13:

Have you tried turning off hyperthreading if you have an intel?
It gives a lot of problems for producing, you can turn it off in the bios (hit del while booting)


Posted by Aquascape on Mar-03-2006 18:19:

quote:
Originally posted by DeZmA
Have you tried turning off hyperthreading if you have an intel?
It gives a lot of problems for producing, you can turn it off in the bios (hit del while booting)
Okay I can do this if it'll help. Are there any drawbacks?

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Shibby sorry that you wasted your money, but maybe you can get a refund or some tech feedback from the company at the least.
Nah, I don't want a refund. I'd still much rather be using a legit app than one that's been cracked by lord knows who. I may contact Novation and see what they say.


Posted by djlogik on Mar-03-2006 18:23:

It might be a problem with the hyperthreading because most people I know seem to have no problems with their versions of it and they have AMD processors.


Posted by Aquascape on Mar-03-2006 22:35:

quote:
Originally posted by DeZmA
Have you tried turning off hyperthreading if you have an intel?
It gives a lot of problems for producing, you can turn it off in the bios (hit del while booting)


quote:
Originally posted by djlogik
It might be a problem with the hyperthreading because most people I know seem to have no problems with their versions of it and they have AMD processors.
I turned off hyperthreading and *touch wood* there hasn't been a crash since - I've tried various different things to check and nothing. Cheers guys, looks like this has solved the problem


Posted by DJ Shibby on Mar-04-2006 07:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Aquascape
I turned off hyperthreading and *touch wood* there hasn't been a crash since - I've tried various different things to check and nothing. Cheers guys, looks like this has solved the problem


Dude.. hyperthreading is ESSENTIAL. You gotta have that on, always. It basically uses emulation to turn your single CPU into a dual, allowing two simultaneous operations to be performed. I'd rather have that and deal with opening v-station 4 times than have v-station load immediately with my processor loosing half its workpower.


Posted by Aquascape on Mar-04-2006 13:00:

Bah! Email sent to Novation...


Posted by WiKKid sKiLLz on Mar-06-2006 15:51:

sounds like youre owned bro....


software incompatibility with something you have in there...


Posted by Aquascape on Mar-06-2006 16:27:

quote:
Originally posted by WiKKid sKiLLz
sounds like youre owned bro....


software incompatibility with something you have in there...
Sounds like I am. I spoke with Novation on the phone today, the guy hadn't even heard of the problem apparently, although I assured him I had found others with the same issue. I posted a comment on the FL forum added on to a topic someone had already started - someone with exactly the same problem. No solution.

This problem obviously doesn't stop me making music, but the irritating thing is I shouldn't have it at all. Not when it's someone else's issue to resolve. The guy on the FL forum was saying he was enduring it through v.1.2 of V Station as well.

Why the f*** do we bother eh?


Posted by WiKKid sKiLLz on Mar-06-2006 16:53:

I use hardware baby


Posted by dj jasonF on Mar-06-2006 16:57:

i used to make whatever i wanted, bounce to audio and delete vstation from the project. now i havent even installed it since the last format. it seems theres no solution.


Posted by djglacial on Mar-06-2006 17:09:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Shibby
Dude.. hyperthreading is ESSENTIAL. You gotta have that on, always. It basically uses emulation to turn your single CPU into a dual, allowing two simultaneous operations to be performed. I'd rather have that and deal with opening v-station 4 times than have v-station load immediately with my processor loosing half its workpower.


You lose 33% power at the most. Even though it's like haveing a dual chip, it is not always using multiple threads.

I've been to the intel educationmabob on this.

I wouldn't worry about it much UNLESS you notice a loss in speed.

In any case, still see if you can find a solution other than this.

Have you tried those two VSTs in any other hosts, by the way?


Posted by Aquascape on Mar-06-2006 17:21:

quote:
Originally posted by djglacial Have you tried those two VSTs in any other hosts, by the way?
I hadn't done, but I just tried it in FL Studio v.5 on my old machine - a P3. No crashes. I don't think I'll be using that one for music anymore though

Much as I love the V Station, these crashes are a pain in the a** and tbh I don't really want my PC running at anything less than the capicity I paid for.

I purchased the V Station from www.dv247.com and their returns policy, like so many states that software can't be returned. Does anyone know where I stand on this issue?


Posted by armanivespucci on Mar-06-2006 20:22:

Have you tried reformatting?


Posted by Aquascape on Mar-06-2006 21:02:

I haven't but tbh it wasn't long ago the hard drive was replaced with a brand new one and I've only installed the essentials (music apps, samples etc...) for music making since then. It's pretty much spotless as far as I can tell.


Posted by DJ Shibby on Mar-07-2006 01:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Aquascape
I haven't but tbh it wasn't long ago the hard drive was replaced with a brand new one and I've only installed the essentials (music apps, samples etc...) for music making since then. It's pretty much spotless as far as I can tell.


I hate to keep beating a dead horse, but I'll also tell you something that fixed this problem for me...

I used to use v-station 1.1, which is the one that crashed VERY frequently.

I uninstalled 1.1, and upgraded to 1.41 and the problem was minimized greatly. As in.. it almost never crashes now.

But if you bought the program, you should have the newest version already... click the novation logo in the top left to see your version.

To be honest, v-station really is overused cheese, and it's really over-rated. You should call your credit card company and have them cancel the transation, and spend that money on a different synth... pm me and I'll name a few that are newer and higher quality for the same price.

Cheers, sorry for beating a dead horse to death again.


Posted by qiushiming on Mar-07-2006 02:48:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Shibby

To be honest, v-station really is overused cheese, and it's really over-rated. You should call your credit card company and have them cancel the transation, and spend that money on a different synth...


woah woah where did that come from? overused cheese it is not! i think v-station outputs some very quality sounds...its not that expensive too


Posted by Aquascape on Mar-07-2006 13:51:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Shibby You should call your credit card company and have them cancel the transation, and spend that money on a different synth... pm me and I'll name a few that are newer and higher quality for the same price.
I didn't have to. I spoke to Digital Village and they'll offer a full refund (minus postage) - no fuss. Result. I await your response to my PM for alternatives.



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