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Posted by GoodYearsPassed on Mar-05-2006 23:31:

So Trance isn't dead then?

hey peeps

I was introduced to the wonderfulness that is trance around 1999. I bought my first CD in 2000 and have recorded tracks from the radio on ye ol' casettes till 2002/03.

Now I live in a small and musically retarded country and I figured trance pretty much died around 2003 and since then I relied on my ol'crap and have been out of the genre for many years.

Then I found this place n_n. It made me happy, I downloaded most of the stuff here and it just proofs how difficult it is to get some decent music in the place where I live.

I never even heard of most DJ's I found here and I must say I am glad I found this place and that fire is relighted.

So my questions would be, what have I missed? What's good and whats something i definatly need to hear. Like, what can you recommend?

I realize thats a rather open question so lemme just share what kinds of Trance I'm really into:

It's mostly the melodic/uplifting stuff. I like short (4 minute-ish) tracks that get to a nice build up around 1:17 or longer tracks (8 minutes) that do get to the point and go from buildup to break down and back etc etc.

Not too keen on loads of bass, as I see that as a supporting "instrument" But I do enjoy the occasional hard stuff as long as its melodic or uplifting.

Some of the tracks types I like would be:

NU NRG feat. The Moon : Teh moon loves the sun
Cascade : Transcend
Andy B : Lift
Estima : hitman's Paradise

Most Talla stuff was real good and general like instrumental tracks are welcome too.

techno-ish is okay too, as long as its melodic and/or uplifting.

Thanks much!

If this tread should be somewere else, please feel free to yell at me in a kind and orderly fashion

--Ray


Posted by Nayil on Mar-05-2006 23:41:

no its not........just that the artists/producers have shifted gears in the form of prog/downbeat/prog breaks/


Posted by dittoalex on Mar-06-2006 00:02:

Sad Yeah, Trance is dead.

Actually, House and Trance both died in 1823. Since 1918, Happy Hardcore has been the only genre in existance. We're actually HHC Addicts.


Posted by GoodYearsPassed on Mar-06-2006 00:17:

Nice to see people taking me serious.

*sarcasm detector explodes*

I do remember a "sound" change which is now called "commercial trance" I suppose... But then what do I know.

So any good dj's artists you could recommend then?

Preverably people who actually have more than one good track.


Posted by dittoalex on Mar-06-2006 00:37:

quote:
Originally posted by GoodYearsPassed
Nice to see people taking me serious.

*sarcasm detector explodes*

I do remember a "sound" change which is now called "commercial trance" I suppose... But then what do I know.

So any good dj's artists you could recommend then?

Preverably people who actually have more than one good track.
Here's the thing: EDM is based solely upon elitism.

You're more elite if you hate trance/say trance sucks/insist trance is dead.

That's why you always have some people saying "trance died in ____, ___ killed it." Blah blah blah.

Trance is alive and well.

Look up Above and Beyond, Gabriel and Dresden, BT, Marco V, Markus Schulz.


Posted by Ygrene on Mar-06-2006 00:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Nou
No trance is dead, LORD OF BASS killed it.


Fixed!!


Posted by GoodYearsPassed on Mar-06-2006 00:44:

quote:
Originally posted by dittoalex
Here's the thing: EDM is based solely upon elitism.

You're more elite if you hate trance/say trance sucks/insist trance is dead.

That's why you always have some people saying "trance died in ____, ___ killed it." Blah blah blah.

Trance is alive and well.

Look up Above and Beyond, Gabriel and Dresden, BT, Marco V, Markus Schulz.


Thanks much! I wrote it down on my "to find list" (yes I use the lost arts of actual writing )


Posted by dittoalex on Mar-06-2006 00:52:

quote:
Originally posted by GoodYearsPassed
Thanks much! I wrote it down on my "to find list" (yes I use the lost arts of actual writing )


Pretty much everything and every artist signed onto the Anjunabeats label is a complete win.

Also look up Oceanlab, it's an alias for the Above and Beyond group I mentioned. Truly quality guys.

Then, branch off from Anjunabeats as you gather more names.


Posted by eye_03 on Mar-06-2006 00:56:

your location says you live in holland, yet you say you live in a musically retarded country??

btw, check out man with no name


Posted by GoodYearsPassed on Mar-06-2006 00:57:

quote:
Originally posted by dittoalex
Pretty much everything and every artist signed onto the Anjunabeats label is a complete win.

Also look up Oceanlab, it's an alias for the Above and Beyond group I mentioned. Truly quality guys.

Then, branch off from Anjunabeats as you gather more names.


Excellent. I have some oceanlab...good stuff indeed.

I was hoping to get some ID's on my unknown stuff, I love the classics.

Thanks again

quote:
Originally posted by eye_03
your location says you live in holland, yet you say you live in a musically retarded country??

btw, check out man with no name


Yes. We seem to only get RnB and Rap/Hip Hop and the big loads of pop music...
You'll die if you hear "Frans Bouer" and various other Dutch singing "musicians"

I stopped listening to our radio stations as trance was either gone or gone bad 0_0.

Ehehehhehe, I could get killed for saying I love trance in high school

I


Posted by XenatR on Mar-06-2006 01:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Nou
No trance is dead, Tranceaddict killed it.


true

quote:
Originally posted by Ygrene
Fixed!!


Lord Of Bass poons joo


Posted by Jasperovitsj on Mar-06-2006 01:06:

quote:
Originally posted by GoodYearsPassed



Yes. We seem to only get RnB and Rap/Hip Hop and the big loads of pop music...


Erm, do the names Armin Van Buuren, Ferry Corsten or DJ Tiesto for instance ring a bell?




*Waits for someone to make the obvious pun with the words "pop music" in your original quote and me mentioning Armin, Ferry and Tiesto in mine *


Posted by Grrrrr on Mar-06-2006 01:10:

Check out sander van doorn (and his hundreds of aliases http://www.discogs.com/artist/Sander+Van+Doorn) his 'purple haze' productions for example are pretty good.

Random track that i love from late last year (i think): Kuffdam & Plant - Summer Dream (Stoneface & Terminal Remix)

Ferry Corsten is still bashing out some awesome new productions and remixes though a lot of them are still to be released, he's releasing an album later this year.

The new Above & Beyond album despite all the hype isn't very good. However, you'll probably like their online radio show 'trance around the world' i think it's streamed from the ministry of sound website

If you like things a little harder and more psy orientated John '00' Fleming is probably the DJ of choice (certainly most well known), check out his online radio show 'global trance grooves' to see if you like his style (a google search should bring up where you can listen to it)


A few things to check out there, thanks for being a newbie that hasn't just joined and pissed everyone off


Posted by GoodYearsPassed on Mar-06-2006 01:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Jasperovitsj
Erm, do the names Armin Van Buuren, Ferry Corsten or DJ Tiesto for instance ring a bell?




*Waits for someone to make the obvious pun with the words "pop music" in your original quote and me mentioning Armin, Ferry and Tiesto in mine *


Well I already have most of their stuff. And thats still just 3 people. And trance is concidered really really crap in ma country (at least, I have yet to meet a person face to face who can actually admit they like trance)

However, these peeps have indeed some good stuff, I just never hear anything new by them cause:

A: Im scared away from my radio
12: Some of their later tracks didnt appeal to me.
E=mc2: I think that about sums it up.

Serious, go listen to Frans Bouer, you'll never wanna see a Dutch "man" again ehehehe

quote:
Originally posted by Grrrrr
Check out sander van doorn (and his hundreds of aliases http://www.discogs.com/artist/Sander+Van+Doorn) his 'purple haze' productions for example are pretty good.

Random track that i love from late last year (i think): Kuffdam & Plant - Summer Dream (Stoneface & Terminal Remix)

Ferry Corsten is still bashing out some awesome new productions and remixes though a lot of them are still to be released, he's releasing an album later this year.

The new Above & Beyond album despite all the hype isn't very good. However, you'll probably like their online radio show 'trance around the world' i think it's streamed from the ministry of sound website

If you like things a little harder and more psy orientated John '00' Fleming is probably the DJ of choice (certainly most well known), check out his online radio show 'global trance grooves' to see if you like his style (a google search should bring up where you can listen to it)


A few things to check out there, thanks for being a newbie that hasn't just joined and pissed everyone off


Thanks much to you too!

I'm pretty hopeless, I need something new every week ehehhehe. Someday...there just wont be any trance left for me to hear 0_0.

But I'll add your suggestions to ze list and I'll see what I can find.
I browsed some stores here too, but no luck on trance I'm afraid.
May be able to get some cheap oldies though.


"Thanks for being a newbie that hasn't just joined and pissed everyone off "

You are welcome. Uhm, I seriously hope I didnt piss anyone off, I just ask for equal treatment and respect. Afterall, we all started out like this...right?


feel da luv


Posted by Jasperovitsj on Mar-06-2006 01:19:

Trust me man, I'm well acquainted with Frans Bauer, as his influence is starting to spread across the Dutch-Belgian border

But since you say you haven't met a single Dutchman that would admit he likes trance, have you already come across this:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...p?s=&forumid=13


Posted by GoodYearsPassed on Mar-06-2006 01:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Jasperovitsj
Trust me man, I'm well acquainted with Frans Bauer, as his influence is starting to spread across the Dutch-Belgian border

But since you say you haven't met a single Dutchman that would admit he likes trance, have you already come across this:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...p?s=&forumid=13


ARGH, well you know when to run when things are starting to turn orange.

mmm i should check out that link then, I must meet these brave souls. Whahahhahaha


Posted by gizzymcg on Mar-06-2006 01:44:

IF you wnaa hear what could be considered cutting edge trance or what is the newest sounds goin about go donwload:

Jon O'Bir, Sander Van Doorn or Menno De Jong set

If you listen to either of them then cum bak and say ure still disillusioned, think nothing is "moving forward" etc etc etc. Then fair play ure musical taste has "evolved". If you like what you hear then welcome to trance circa 2006


Posted by PlasticSoul on Mar-06-2006 01:45:

trance is not dead, yet...
u need research more...
but i agree that is not made like 99/2000, but c'mon... let's try evolve...


Posted by Ted Promo on Mar-06-2006 01:45:

There's some good trance still out there, but for the most part I've found the many of the most creative producers are in the prog house and minimal areas. This doesn't mean that all trance sucks though... I guess?


Posted by dittoalex on Mar-06-2006 01:49:

I download gigabytes of new trance every day. There's just too much!


Posted by GoodYearsPassed on Mar-06-2006 02:03:

quote:
Originally posted by gizzymcg
IF you wnaa hear what could be considered cutting edge trance or what is the newest sounds goin about go donwload:

Jon O'Bir, Sander Van Doorn or Menno De Jong set

If you listen to either of them then cum bak and say ure still disillusioned, think nothing is "moving forward" etc etc etc. Then fair play ure musical taste has "evolved". If you like what you hear then welcome to trance circa 2006


Uhm disillusioned? I never said it wasn't moving forward , I'm saying I havent heard anything that appeals to me before I found this place and after 2003. Because we simply dont get many trance tracks on radio etc.

I'd be happy to find those things you mentioned. We'll see if I like it.
I'm just very picky with my music, especially after the nasty "dance incident 2003"

Thanks for your suggestions

quote:
Originally posted by PlasticSoul
trance is not dead, yet...
u need research more...
but i agree that is not made like 99/2000, but c'mon... let's try evolve...


yup! Thats what I'm here for. I'd love to evolve, just lemme hear something good and Ill be there

I was actually surpised to hear such awesome stuff in the live sets on here and find out it was actually from 2005


Posted by CHRles on Mar-06-2006 03:04:

I wouldn't be surprised if this person is just yankin your chains. Claiming to be from Holland yet claiming Trance is dead and that his country never plays Trance is a big contradiction. You can't swing a dead cat in Holland without hitting a Trance DJ or producer
Even the radio in Holland, including the commercial Top 40 stations, is Dance and Trance friendly.
just about anywhere in Holland you can pick up 3 FM, Radio 538, and Slam FM, and all have some Trance leaning shows especially on weekend nights.
In Holland's major cities you can also either pick up Fresh FM, or X-FM down in Southern Holland.

Just what city in Holland, or near which city, do you live in?


Posted by mndeg on Mar-06-2006 08:02:

i remember a slam FM commercial from a rip of system f -solstice


Posted by Aquarian on Mar-06-2006 09:21:

www.audiojelly.com

www.beatport.com


Drink up, friend.


Posted by GoodYearsPassed on Mar-06-2006 14:53:

quote:
Originally posted by CHRles
I wouldn't be surprised if this person is just yankin your chains. Claiming to be from Holland yet claiming Trance is dead and that his country never plays Trance is a big contradiction. You can't swing a dead cat in Holland without hitting a Trance DJ or producer
Even the radio in Holland, including the commercial Top 40 stations, is Dance and Trance friendly.
just about anywhere in Holland you can pick up 3 FM, Radio 538, and Slam FM, and all have some Trance leaning shows especially on weekend nights.
In Holland's major cities you can also either pick up Fresh FM, or X-FM down in Southern Holland.

Just what city in Holland, or near which city, do you live in?


Uhm, why would I do that?

I never claimed trance was dead, it was merely a question. You need to look at things from my point of view

I havent listened to radio for years, I can't find good trance CD's in stores, and I have no clue on what's new. Simply cause I was a teenager back in the days having little money and little knowledge on this music, all I knew is that I love it.

From what I gathered in my personal experience, Radio 538 stopped playing the trance I like around 2003, which was then replaced for Dance which in my opinion is horribly repeditive and dullsounding.
3 FM is mostly mainstreamness and I havent even heard about those other stations.

To answer yer question, I live in Assen as said next to the thingy with my country name in it. Its a small city up North, the "capitol" of my Province.

There ya go

quote:
Originally posted by Aquarian
www.audiojelly.com

www.beatport.com


Drink up, friend.


Thanks much!


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