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Posted by Skipper on Mar-09-2006 14:15:

Did the International Womens Day thread get deleted?

?


Posted by drgoodvibe on Mar-09-2006 14:16:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...p?s=&forumid=12


Posted by Skipper on Mar-09-2006 14:35:

I saw that right after I posted the thread but I couldn't delete it...

I was wondering if it got deleted because Jay continued to be so riduculously offensive.


Posted by Swamper on Mar-09-2006 15:14:

repost it lol.


Posted by Jayx1 on Mar-09-2006 15:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
I saw that right after I posted the thread but I couldn't delete it...

I was wondering if it got deleted because Jay continued to be so riduculously offensive.


Offensive?

By having an opinion that is against the status quo?

sheesh

BTW all i even did in that thread was post an article about feminism from a well known columnist in a national paper. How is that "offensive"?


Posted by Skipper on Mar-09-2006 15:31:

It absolutely IS offensive that you see international womens day as nothing more than an attention grabbing headline to promote women as victims.

Specifically, you said "What I've learned from international women's day is that there is certainly money to be made by playing the victim."


Posted by Orko on Mar-09-2006 15:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
Offensive?

By having an opinion that is against the status quo?

sheesh

BTW all i even did in that thread was post an article about feminism from a well known columnist in a national paper. How is that "offensive"?


ah..how nice it is, when posts are lost.

You did more than that, and you know it.

Own up.


Posted by Jayx1 on Mar-09-2006 15:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
It absolutely IS offensive that you see international womens day as nothing more than an attention grabbing headline to promote women as victims.

Specifically, you said "What I've learned from international women's day is that there is certainly money to be made by playing the victim."


And its true.

There is no denying it either. Everyone has a lot of money to be made by playing the role of the victim. Not just certain special interest groups but our society as a whole has learned to play this game. Why is it that any time someone wants to discuss the status quo its suddenly "offensive"? Perhaps if we were a little more brave to discuss these things we could find the path to true equality instead of the patchwork of equality conveniences that were described in that article.


Posted by Jayx1 on Mar-09-2006 15:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
ah..how nice it is, when posts are lost.

You did more than that, and you know it.

Own up.


I said basically what she said...

big deal!


Posted by Orko on Mar-09-2006 15:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
And its true.

There is no denying it either. Everyone has a lot of money to be made by playing the role of the victim. Not just certain special interest groups but our society as a whole as learned to play this game. Why is it that any time someone wants to discuss the status quo its suddenly "offensive"? Perhaps if we were a little more brave to discuss these things we could find the path to true equality instead of the patchwork conveniences that were described in that article.


Playing the victim? Women have been the victims in history. They have been abused, their rights have been taken away, they have been unfairly treated. They are STILL unfairly treated.

Bringing up issues is not exploiting the situation as you are suggesting. In my eyes, they are trying to fight for what they deserve, equality.

By fighting for equal wages (in a western culture) they are not 'trying to make money' off the situation, they are trying to get equal footing, an equal playing ground. By getting paid less for the same work, they are automatically disadvantaged.

In other cultures, there are more pressing issues than equal pay, and have nothing to do with 'making money'.


Posted by Skipper on Mar-09-2006 15:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
And its true.

There is no denying it either. Everyone has a lot of money to be made by playing the role of the victim. Not just certain special interest groups but our society as a whole has learned to play this game. Why is it that any time someone wants to discuss the status quo its suddenly "offensive"? Perhaps if we were a little more brave to discuss these things we could find the path to true equality instead of the patchwork of equality conveniences that were described in that article.


Sure there's money to be made playing the victim.
However, I find it utterly DISGUSTING that that is what you think women's day is about.

Don't try to say you made that comment in a general sense - because you specifically related it to women. and that's bullshit.

It wouldn't surprise me one day to find you're that guy who thinks women should be given an allowance from their husbands or some shit.

Most ignorant comment I've ever read on this board Jay...congrats


Posted by DigitalMP on Mar-09-2006 15:53:

I find this thread offensive. Swamper, please delete it.


Posted by Orko on Mar-09-2006 16:00:

quote:
Originally posted by DigitalMP
I find this thread offensive. Swamper, please delete it.


Its heading that way, isn't it?

But, we can be adults. Can't we?


Posted by Tordan on Mar-09-2006 16:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
Sure there's money to be made playing the victim.
However, I find it utterly DISGUSTING that that is what you think women's day is about.


Regardless what his views on women are he's just trying to get a rise out of anybody. Isn't it quite obvious by the stance he takes on many issues that he's more interested in debating it to death rather than just have his say and be done with it? He's probably bored and needs entertainment.


Posted by DigitalMP on Mar-09-2006 16:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
Its heading that way, isn't it?

But, we can be adults. Can't we?


Ha...to each their own.

Jay has some extreme views. It baffles me why people are surprised when he posts them.


Posted by Skipper on Mar-09-2006 16:11:

quote:
Originally posted by DigitalMP
Ha...to each their own.

Jay has some extreme views. It baffles me why people are surprised when he posts them.


Because I just didn't think he was so ignorant and living in the 1950's.


Posted by Jayx1 on Mar-09-2006 17:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
Sure there's money to be made playing the victim.
However, I find it utterly DISGUSTING that that is what you think women's day is about.

Don't try to say you made that comment in a general sense - because you specifically related it to women. and that's bullshit.

It wouldn't surprise me one day to find you're that guy who thinks women should be given an allowance from their husbands or some shit.

Most ignorant comment I've ever read on this board Jay...congrats


Actually i happen to believe in true equality. Women's day is not a time for self congratulatory pats on the back. Its a time to focus on women's issues. And women's issues happen to also affect men! So the moment i bring up some issues pertaining to women, feminism, and how present day thinking is leading women down the wrong path, suddenly im a bad guy? I know what women's day is about. Its about awareness and trying to solve problems.

It's true that special interest groups play the role of the victim and in canada its all about money (whether its raw money or in the form of control).

You are so very wrong by trying to suggest that im some sort of chauvenist just because i dont roll over and play dead the moment someone decides to force feed me their played out PC tripe. True equality is just that, EQUALITY. And from where i am sitting, present day "feminists" want dominance, not equality.

I could bring up a large list of examples but im sure you can already figure them out for yourself.

Im highly offended that just by questioning feminism and women's day that it could be suggested that i am a chauvenist. In fact id argue that most so called "feminists" are much more chauvenistic than the men they complain about.


Women's day should be changed to "humanity day" because issues that affect women also have a counter effect on men and vice versa. And men are part of the solution, not the problem. So instead of throwing out insults at the first person that challenges the status quo, maybe you should listen to a fresh perspective.


Ill add something else to this as well, The One thing I have never done is personally attcaked someone on this board just because i disagree with them. (other than ryan parks hahaha). So if anyone should be offended, it's me. But frankly i dont really care.


Posted by Skipper on Mar-09-2006 17:35:

I have thought about it, and I still think you're an ignorant pig.

That's how offended I am that you branded women as victims. Women who fight for equality are just playing victims. That's all I really need to hear from you Jay.

Second person on my ignore list.


Posted by Jayx1 on Mar-09-2006 17:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
I have thought about it, and I still think you're an ignorant pig.

That's how offended I am that you branded women as victims. Women who fight for equality are just playing victims. That's all I really need to hear from you Jay.

Second person on my ignore list.

Women have branded themselves as victims. What i am saying is that THEY ARE NOT!

Go ahead and ignore someone with an opposing opinion...

PS: the word ignorance comes from the word ignore


Posted by phoenixBEBE on Mar-09-2006 17:44:

yeah i also noticed that all the threads from last night got deleted cuz of the problem with the database


Posted by DigitalMP on Mar-09-2006 17:45:

I would just like to take this time to say that I love international women.


Posted by Sasha on Mar-09-2006 17:46:

Sarah, u're so easy to offend. Good luck in real life.


Posted by Skipper on Mar-09-2006 17:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Sasha
Sarah, u're so easy to offend. Good luck in real life.


haha...because you know me so well!
but thanks for your advice. When I get to "real life" I will let you know how I fare.

This is one thing I find particularly offensive, and I know I'm not the only one on this board who thinks so.


Posted by Sasha on Mar-09-2006 17:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
haha...because you know me so well!
but thanks for your advice. When I get to "real life" I will let you know how I fare.

This is one thing I find particularly offensive, and I know I'm not the only one on this board who thinks so.



Posted by Yohan on Mar-09-2006 18:11:

Ah, the right to offend.

Isn't freedom of speech wonderful? (Or in this case, more of a free dumb of screech?)


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