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Posted by S-a-M-u-E-l on Mar-10-2006 01:46:

Live Set Problem

i recorded a liveset, but the different volumes for each songs are different. what do i use to make the entire set one level, without varying peaks or anything?


Posted by davemolina on Mar-10-2006 03:12:

You really can't...unless you manually adjust the volume in a wave editor, but that's a giant pain in the ass.


Posted by Allied Nations on Mar-10-2006 04:14:

re-record the set making sure you watch the gains?


Posted by idoru on Mar-10-2006 07:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
re-record the set making sure you watch the gains


Posted by Basstard on Mar-10-2006 10:42:

+1

dont take offence but if the levels between each song are noticable then you need to make better use of ur gains. even if ur mixin is as tight as a nun's pussy, it will still sound god awful if the volume's arn't matched


Posted by Nemesis44 on Mar-10-2006 13:42:

Indeed, learn to use the gains.
It's all well and good adjusting the mix after but it's doesn't really mean squat if you can't do it live.

Learning how to do this will make you a better DJ.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by stefanoc on Mar-10-2006 18:31:

you can edit it with a sound editing program but it wont sound as good as you doing it right from the first time.

if the volume is off only between two songs, then edit it with a program. if there are many songs that are off then re-record your set.


Posted by Nbrablec9 on Mar-10-2006 18:48:

GAINS

What I was taught is to leave your gains at the same level and just use you EQ nobs to adjust mix and sound ... If i'm wrong please correct me , but it only makes sense to use your EQ's and not the gain.


Posted by Basstard on Mar-10-2006 19:22:

no ur wrong fella. music is recorded at different levels. what you will need to do for all tracks is adjust the gain on the mixer so that both tracks are peaking at the same level (ideally 0db

this ensures that they are both at the same volume when the channel sliders are at equal positions.

edit: ur a little mixed up also about what we're on about. you use the gains to adjust the volume of the track but you are correct in saying you do not use them to *MIX*. thats where the channel faders / eqs come in.


Posted by DOOMBOT on Mar-10-2006 19:27:

This goes right back to my thread about when to adjust gains. Since I have been getting more records I have really noticed that some tracks will naturally be louder or softer then others. So I have been practicing a bit with the gain in my mixes as well. Just watch the meter on your mixer and make sure that wherever the lights light up at, it matches on the other channel. And since sometimes that isn't always perfect you really gotta use your ear.

I usually have the volume and EQ's lower then the playing track on my incoming track anyway so when I go to mix it in I adjust the gain until it sounds right.


Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on Mar-10-2006 19:44:

yup, definitly need to adjust the levels to match up between tracks. it should be atleast close directly from the mixer.

it's not so easy to get exactly right.. especially when you run into a record that's not pressed as nicely or is eq'ed in a weird manner.

use a combination of the gains AND eq's to make all the frequencies blend properely into the mix at the proper level. generally i have the mains just hitting the yellow and try to keep them there. helps alot...

getting things just right from the decks is hard. all but the best DJ mixes will have some level variations... but a good mix will only have subtle, easy to correct variations.

if the mix itself isnt too bad, and the levels are fairly close, making it all sound level is incredibly easy. you just run the wave file through a multiband limiter/compressor plugin like Waves Audio L3 or C4 and your all set. the multiband compressors split the audio up into multiple bands like an EQ, then level each band individually.. works like a charm!

i also find using a parametric eq on transitions can help alot.. it's pretty easy to dampen conflicting frequencies, or better yet, accentuate the really sweet parts of the mixed beats...


Posted by S-a-M-u-E-l on Mar-11-2006 18:21:

well then whatdoes normalization do?


Posted by Zild on Mar-11-2006 18:56:

quote:
Originally posted by S-a-M-u-E-l
well then whatdoes normalization do?


Ruins your demo.


Posted by Basstard on Mar-11-2006 21:19:

haha +1


Posted by superglo on Mar-13-2006 03:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
Ruins your demo.


shit. i've been normalizing all my recordings.


Posted by <tuss> on Mar-15-2006 00:15:

what do you guys use to record? id like to use my laptop, but i dont know any good software, and what types of connection/soundcard i might need, im using a xone62, is there anything that works better for different mixers?


Posted by Spacey Orange on Mar-15-2006 05:47:

quote:
Originally posted by
what do you guys use to record? id like to use my laptop, but i dont know any good software, and what types of connection/soundcard i might need, im using a xone62, is there anything that works better for different mixers?


i use a 1999 Fujitsu Lifebook with 256 ram 366 chip and 4 gig hard drive. the sound card was factory installed (not sure about the model).

oh and i use traktor 1.05. whatever works man.


Posted by superglo on Mar-15-2006 15:54:

quote:
Originally posted by
what do you guys use to record? id like to use my laptop, but i dont know any good software, and what types of connection/soundcard i might need, im using a xone62, is there anything that works better for different mixers?


i'm using nero's recording software.
nothing fancy but it works though.


Posted by <tuss> on Mar-15-2006 20:42:

^ ya i was thinking of something just along those lines, ive got an HP pavilion dv4000 laptop, the only inputs i can see that would be useful are usb, is that what i use to connect to my mixer? i know this sounds retarded, but is there a cable with rca/usb together that would do this? otherwise i dont see how i would link the mixer and laptop w/o a separate soundcard.



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