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Posted by emc^2 on Mar-11-2006 18:43:

Read This! Trance by the book - "The Trance Experience" by Wellenrausch (edited)

Here's the scoop - as an aspiring producer, I had to dig through dozens of books, countless websites (this one included) for bits and pieces to understand how to put together a trance track.

It's a frustrating and daunting task - especially for those of us that are just starting out and are often stumped as to where start, how to glue all the elements together. Well, an answer to (at least my) prayers - Torsten Fassbender aka Wellenrausch has put together a book, showing how it's done. The kicker is not just a step-by-step guide but also CDs containing complete project for Cubase, Pro Tools, Nuendo, Logic, Digital Performer, Sonar, and Garage Band.

You get original song, remix, and dub on CD's so you can follow the examples along.

I don't know about you but to me - the value of the lesson is well worth the admission price ($80 + shipping/customs).

(edited)

Book is available in English or German.

More info is available below, along with MP3 tracks (great track, IMHO):

http://www.sound.org/titles2.html

http://www.sound.org/audio/session1_originalmix.mp3

Oh, and folks - whether you like the track or not - don't look for fly in the ointment - take it for what it is - a lesson material. It may or may not fit your taste but I figure the lessons you learn will be applicable for any style of EDM you intend to produce.

I personally love the track - very '99-feeling, hands in the air (albeit a bit cheesy by today's standards), type of track. I've been listening to it repeatedly all day - love it!


Posted by qiushiming on Mar-11-2006 19:43:

im in!


Posted by WiKKid sKiLLz on Mar-11-2006 20:15:

looks interesting to me... ill take one

but as an aspiring producer, all i did was listen to music, dance to music, and then i made some music...


Posted by emc^2 on Mar-11-2006 23:54:

Cool, what I will do then - once I got a list of folks who are interested, I'll be able to ask the publisher for discount - based on numbers we get. I will also post this group buy offer on several other forums - so I figure we should have at least 10 orders - which will probably save us some dough.

Cheers!


Posted by djlogik on Mar-13-2006 18:06:

There was a thread about this book awhile ago and most people gave their own input on what they thought about the book and if it helped them in production or not. Personally I feel you learn through listening and analyzing the music. Just take a simple track and listen to all the different elements being played. I mean normally you got that noise sweep, offbeat hihat, 4x4 kick, bassline, tambourines, ride cymbal, maybe 16th note closed hat, and whatever else noises you plan on using. I think you could learn a lot just from asking on the forums. To some it might be repetitive, but analyzing the music can help you out a lot as wikkid said earlier. $80 is a steep price, but I suppose if you have the money go for it. It definitely can't hurt you.


Posted by Four_On_Four-er on Mar-13-2006 20:30:

quote:
Originally posted by djlogik
There was a thread about this book awhile ago and most people gave their own input on what they thought about the book and if it helped them in production or not. Personally I feel you learn through listening and analyzing the music. Just take a simple track and listen to all the different elements being played. I mean normally you got that noise sweep, offbeat hihat, 4x4 kick, bassline, tambourines, ride cymbal, maybe 16th note closed hat, and whatever else noises you plan on using. I think you could learn a lot just from asking on the forums. To some it might be repetitive, but analyzing the music can help you out a lot as wikkid said earlier. $80 is a steep price, but I suppose if you have the money go for it. It definitely can't hurt you.


I agree... but isn't that what this program is doing: guiding you through an entire track in every single nitty-gritty detail?

Hey... nice lesson mp3. The 99-00 era was when I started getting into trance and I was a noob back then (HA! still am) -- I feel like I missed alot .


Posted by Craig Bradley on Mar-13-2006 22:14:

Ordered mine today lol only just read this else i would have been in sooner.

Craig


Posted by ralpheeee on Mar-13-2006 22:33:

Re: Trance by the book - "The Trance Experience" by Wellenrausch (group buy ne1?)

quote:
Originally posted by emc^2
Here's the scoop - as an aspiring producer, I had to dig through dozens of books, countless websites (this one included) for bits and pieces to understand how to put together a trance track.

It's a frustrating and daunting task - especially for those of us that are just starting out and are often stumped as to where start, how to glue all the elements together. Well, an answer to (at least my) prayers - Torsten Fassbender aka Wellenrausch has put together a book, showing how it's done. The kicker is not just a step-by-step guide but also CDs containing complete project for Cubase, Pro Tools, Nuendo, Logic, Digital Performer, Sonar, and Garage Band.

You get original song, remix, and dub on CD's so you can follow the examples along.

I don't know about you but to me - the value of the lesson is well worth the admission price ($80 + shipping/customs).

If anyone is interested, PM me - I figure if we do a group buy we can probably get it at discount price.

Let me know by March 18, so that we can finalize the purchase. Meanwhile, I will contact the publisher about a group buy discount and post more details here.

Book is available in English or German.

More info is available below, along with MP3 tracks (great track, IMHO):

http://www.sound.org/titles2.html

http://www.sound.org/audio/session1_originalmix.mp3

Oh, and folks - whether you like the track or not - don't look for fly in the ointment - take it for what it is - a lesson material. It may or may not fit your taste but I figure the lessons you learn will be applicable for any style of EDM you intend to produce.

I personally love the track - very '99-feeling, hands in the air (albeit a bit cheesy by today's standards), type of track. I've been listening to it repeatedly all day - love it!

So, anyone else with me?


Call me cynical, but this sounds suspiciously like a sales pitch. Do you work for this company or get some sort of kick back for selling these books?


Posted by Analog Artisan on Mar-14-2006 04:12:

Re: Re: Trance by the book - "The Trance Experience" by Wellenrausch (group buy ne1?)

quote:
Originally posted by ralpheeee
Call me cynical, but this sounds suspiciously like a sales pitch. Do you work for this company or get some sort of kick back for selling these books?


Nice to meet you Cynical..

i think it is a bit of a sales ptich, but only since hes trying to convince other people to buy the book so he can get it cheaper himself in a group buy..

anyways.. put me down on the list for considering the group buy.. let us know what he discount would be.


Posted by ralpheeee on Mar-14-2006 05:38:


Posted by Robbanito on Mar-14-2006 19:11:

I'm on the list too...


Posted by crazedonee on Mar-15-2006 14:45:

I would never buy a step by step guide on how to make anything.

cause in the end dont yo uwant to sound original or like some other guys band.

to make trance all you need are all a few things percussion,a sampler
drum machine bass player,sequencer and a host of synths.

and the only book you should buy is something about music therory unless you did not take that in college or high school all this guy is doing is making a profit from the book sales.



but yeah all trance is a melody ,some chords,filter movements,chord progressions and some fx .

but its the way you compose it and teweak that get the results for that killer trancet rack not buying the book.


Posted by emc^2 on Mar-15-2006 20:40:

Re: Re: Trance by the book - "The Trance Experience" by Wellenrausch (group buy ne1?)

quote:
Originally posted by ralpheeee
Call me cynical, but this sounds suspiciously like a sales pitch. Do you work for this company or get some sort of kick back for selling these books?


I don't work for the company nor do I get any kickback nor do I get any advantages other than a) sharing a tip that I find helpful with fellow producers and b) get a discount in the process of ordering in bulk.

I am not forcing anyone to order...

But you have to be aware of those folks who try to sell you gasoline or food - they are some evil mofos... everyone knows - you don't need it but they'd have you believe otherwise!


Posted by crazedonee on Mar-15-2006 23:08:

imo you really dont need a book to teach you trance

but if you want to go spend the 100$ after shipping and handling go ahead.


if you knew nothing of cars ,would you buy a book to put an engine together


you can learn just as much in that book and more for nothing ,you can go to the library for free
and browse tranceaddict.com


the again you could use my formula for trance.

first thing is making sure you have all the essential pieces of a soft synth ,studio
sequencer ,vsts,a work station like ,logic,reason,or project 5,or protools etc.

something to keep of note which is very important is ,you really only want soft synths that are analog
or emulated of a classic /vintage synth where as you are able to use envelopes and lfos to mold and shape your sound.
it has been noted that these synths are the best for trance music V-station,Pro 53,Zeta etc something similar to these.


and you allready created your elements for your track your main riff melody,arps to layer with the main riff,string pad,chords
your bass,fx,percussion and anything else you may need to create

then this may be an easy way for you to make trance.

#1 make your percussion but if you can layer your percussion with one drum machine,or drum map
or make an instance of a drum machine for each kit you need for example ,kick ,rise,build ,intro,chorus,snare ,tom roll
breakdown ,outtro (so you would create 7 or 8 drum machines and trigger them when needed )

#2 make your main riff
i will create a main riff and upload it soon ,for an example
use a saw,noise,and either a triangle or sine and make your patch the way you normally would.

you want to mix happy with sad so try mixing some somber chords with happy chords for a nice chord progression
every 4 bars ,then alternate positions of notes ,to create movement and energy ,also alternate between up and down to create tension.

2a make any more sounds youll need like pads,fx other arps or leads.


#3 make your bass around the main riff when your riff goes up your bass moves up and down and so forth dont follow it to close the song will sound too boring.

now here comes the hard part

or easy depending on your skill level

what youll do here is make a seperate file in sonar or whatever program your using

ill just name each section below and youll need to make a file for each of these


intro
drum roll
drum rise crescendo
drums breakdown
chorus
main riff
pad
arps
middle eighth dramatic build
dramatic build
chorus ,riffs ,arps, pad
string pad,chorus
bass,main riff,pad
mixdown track
mastered track


okay after you have all these files made is you go back and create each section of a trance track

you take your bass ,your fx,your pad and some drum fill and make a intro
and you make a drum roll
and so forth
after you have each section created ,this may take a few days or a week
you add effects and tweak as necesary
then you mix down each file seperatley ,to audio just make sure you name it correctly.

then you put all these audio files into one file called mixdown track


first youd obviously put your intro then,drum rise,dramatic build,breakdwn and chorus then the rest is up to you





#4 you compose it into a way that makes sense ,since trance music is based o nclassical western style
a good way to get an idea of a composition is to listen to classical music. so if you dont have any music theory knowledge
just put in a bach or rachmaninoff or chopin cd

and listen to the compositon


most trance is based on clasiscal music so this may be a good starting point for your compostions



then alter and edit it more add more effects and master it

then save it to a file called mastered track


then your good to go!


Posted by emc^2 on Mar-16-2006 02:31:

quote:
Originally posted by crazedonee
imo you really dont need a book to teach you trance

but if you want to go spend the 100$ after shipping and handling go ahead.


if you knew nothing of cars ,would you buy a book to put an engine together


you can learn just as much in that book and more for nothing ,you can go to the library for free
and browse tranceaddict.com


the again you could use my formula for trance.

first thing is making sure you have all the essential pieces of a soft synth ,studio
sequencer ,vsts,a work station like ,logic,reason,or project 5,or protools etc.

something to keep of note which is very important is ,you really only want soft synths that are analog
or emulated of a classic /vintage synth where as you are able to use envelopes and lfos to mold and shape your sound.
it has been noted that these synths are the best for trance music V-station,Pro 53,Zeta etc something similar to these.


and you allready created your elements for your track your main riff melody,arps to layer with the main riff,string pad,chords
your bass,fx,percussion and anything else you may need to create

then this may be an easy way for you to make trance.

#1 make your percussion but if you can layer your percussion with one drum machine,or drum map
or make an instance of a drum machine for each kit you need for example ,kick ,rise,build ,intro,chorus,snare ,tom roll
breakdown ,outtro (so you would create 7 or 8 drum machines and trigger them when needed )

#2 make your main riff
i will create a main riff and upload it soon ,for an example
use a saw,noise,and either a triangle or sine and make your patch the way you normally would.

you want to mix happy with sad so try mixing some somber chords with happy chords for a nice chord progression
every 4 bars ,then alternate positions of notes ,to create movement and energy ,also alternate between up and down to create tension.

2a make any more sounds youll need like pads,fx other arps or leads.


#3 make your bass around the main riff when your riff goes up your bass moves up and down and so forth dont follow it to close the song will sound too boring.

now here comes the hard part

or easy depending on your skill level

what youll do here is make a seperate file in sonar or whatever program your using

ill just name each section below and youll need to make a file for each of these


intro
drum roll
drum rise crescendo
drums breakdown
chorus
main riff
pad
arps
middle eighth dramatic build
dramatic build
chorus ,riffs ,arps, pad
string pad,chorus
bass,main riff,pad
mixdown track
mastered track


okay after you have all these files made is you go back and create each section of a trance track

you take your bass ,your fx,your pad and some drum fill and make a intro
and you make a drum roll
and so forth
after you have each section created ,this may take a few days or a week
you add effects and tweak as necesary
then you mix down each file seperatley ,to audio just make sure you name it correctly.

then you put all these audio files into one file called mixdown track


first youd obviously put your intro then,drum rise,dramatic build,breakdwn and chorus then the rest is up to you





#4 you compose it into a way that makes sense ,since trance music is based o nclassical western style
a good way to get an idea of a composition is to listen to classical music. so if you dont have any music theory knowledge
just put in a bach or rachmaninoff or chopin cd

and listen to the compositon


most trance is based on clasiscal music so this may be a good starting point for your compostions



then alter and edit it more add more effects and master it

then save it to a file called mastered track


then your good to go!


Great crash course... though keep in mind that it's hard to stay focused on your learning path when you have to resort to 10 different sources. I don't have to convince anyone - for me, quite honestly, it is a challenge. Here's why:

Say I need to learn the basics of putting the track together. I go to tranceaddict - I search for hours on end and read thousands of posts - some useful, some not. Finally, I get some kind of obscure answer from someone who is just as inexperienced as I. Meanwhile, I'm distracted from task at hand, hours wasted, nothing accomplished.

I don't know about you - but when I want to learn how something works, I experiment and suplement my learning with some knowledge. I would challenge anyone to claim that building a track is an easy task.

To someone who has done it once - yes, it is EASIER. For someone who has never done it - it is hard. I have been at this hobby for years, have spent thousands of dollars on gear - nowdays, it seems that my hobby has slowly evolved into buying/selling gear more than music itself. Don't get me wrong - I've learned a great deal about synths, the parameters, what they can do and what's good and what's not. I've tried just about every piece of gear in existence. I've actually made quite a bit of money buying/selling gear - but I'm nowhere near building a listenable track. I am embarassed to admit how much money I have sitting in my studio gear - and how little use I get out of it. I've had synths that I bought, played for several days and covered them up for several years thinking I'd use them.

I'd sell them eventually and move on to the next synth. Who knows - maybe this is my true calling - being a gear dealer but I'd like to think that I can actually get some use of it and make something.

So, that's my personal confession and goal. That's why I think having this book will help me get my A.D.D. -riddled brain back on the true goal of why I started diddling with synths - MAKING MUSIC.

...but hey, that's just me.



Look


Posted by crazedonee on Mar-19-2006 19:12:

I know my formula may be a bit tedious for someone who does not
or never made a track ,but i did it that w ay so it would be easier


i actually use two files one is in midi and one is everything bounced to audio.


but the moral of my orignal post is if you know a bit about music
all you need is a book about music theory to teach you structure scales,chords,progression,cadence and so forth and you can get that for 10 or 12 dollars. rather than spend 80 - 100 for a book.

since trance is based from classical music.


someone sid there was an original post on this book why dont we find it and see if this book is any good for people who do wantto buy it or has anyone here actually used it.


Posted by paulc_dj on Mar-19-2006 22:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Craig Bradley
Ordered mine today lol only just read this else i would have been in sooner.

Craig


Craig, was that ur remix of Seven Cities, the judge was playing recently?

PC


Posted by Final Call on Mar-20-2006 00:16:

quote:
Originally posted by paulc_dj
Craig, was that ur remix of Seven Cities, the judge was playing recently?

PC


haha yeah that was his remix


Posted by emc^2 on Mar-20-2006 06:40:

Hey folks, I have left several VM's for distributor and have yet to hear back from him/her. I'll follow up on Monday to get some pricing. Hang in there. I'll post more info very shortly.

Cheers!


Posted by Khayat on Mar-20-2006 10:36:

Ok cauz i want to know some details about this 1


Posted by paulc_dj on Mar-20-2006 10:56:

I'm interested in hearing more on this as well.

Keep us posted.

PC


Posted by david-james on Mar-20-2006 16:12:

I love the book. My work has improved so much since reading this book.

Sorry i cant be more constructive on this post, but i dont have the time.

Heres a link to the other thread.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=320782


Posted by crazedonee on Mar-21-2006 03:08:

thanks james ill check the post


Posted by satchboy69 on Mar-22-2006 09:08:

Can you keep me informed of the price as well please, very interested


Posted by emc^2 on Mar-22-2006 19:59:

Ok, here's the deal:

I called Sound.org - which actually is another name for company called.... Waves....

I have found out the following:

- No group buys directly from them

- Can't buy it in bulk, unless you're a dealer: e.g. web store or brick/mortar reseller

So, that route is no go...


But... there are some good news:

EDIT:

Ok, kids - hear me now, thank me later.

I was able to get a sweet deal for these books. Your total for the book (not including shipping) is:

$60 plus shipping. I figure international shipping from US will be about $15 or so. US shipping via FedEx ground will be about $10 and via US Mail probably about $7.

So, you do the math...

And for those of you not in US ... I think there may be a way you may be able to save on VAT. That's all I can say .....

I'm on my way to pick up 3 books, 1 is for me 2 are availble. I have also asked my sales rep to order 3 more, just in case more of you are interested. If you're serious and ready to buy the book - PM me, I'll give you payment info and get your address, etc.

Cheers!




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