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Help with Parametric EQ...

I didnt find some useful (for me) threads about the parametric EQ, so I was wondering if somebody could help me, and maybe others that have questions about it, too...

For example, how proper eq the instruments, like kick, hihat, leads, etc... to get a "clean" sound...


if u ve some good tutorial for it, for example, what frequencies to mess with each sound in the track, I'm glad, if there are a better thread about this, tell me and I'll delete this...

I'm posting this cus my only problem is eq and mixing my tracks, so I get a bit shy to send it to others... maybe I'm silly, heheh...

Very thanks...

Kick: 80Hz-sub oomph, 250Hz-kicks body, 500Hz, 1500Hz-clickier
hihat: 250Hz-roll off, 3000Hz-clearer if ducked a little, 8000+13000-brightness
Bassline: 50 to 500-duck for kick presence, 1000/1500-midbass presence, duck as appropriate from 3000Hz and up to give clarity to the leads/pads/hats/percs/etc
Leads: Whatever works to fit it in the mix; duck a little for kick and hats
Pads: cut where it muddies other important elements, boost where you need the spectrum filled a bit.

Basically, there is no real solution, but those are some basics to start molding the mix while you compose it. Just keep in mind that too much EQ will ruin perfectly good instruments and make them digital crap, and basically you are looking to duck slightly the instruments that play simultaneously and may unnecessarily muddy each other in a certain frequency range (just toss a spectrum analyzer on your master channel and solo each instrument to visually see where you need to make modifications, then slide the faders that apply until you hear it "hit" that sweet spot.)

Boosting isn't suggested, since ducking is more natural sounding. Duck in small amounts usually (0.1-0.4dB) so that it curves gently into the change.

k cheers, good luck.

thanks dj!

Mixing-

Mixing-

Kick-HP at 60hz, raise back up to 0db @40hz with a narrow notch filter high Q.

Bassline-HP at 60-80hz if bassline plays on off beat (ie. not sounding simultaneously with kick). On beat basslines requires a higher roll off freq or a notch to allow the kick through. Side chain compression or ducking also is good. Personally, i always program dance/trance basslines to sound on the off beat at least with the low bass notes.

After you get your kick and bassline Eq'd properlly and the relationship is perfect don't mess with it! And you don't want any of the other tracks interfering with that low end relationship so what I do is this...

-assign all other channels (pads, synth leads, vocals, everything!) to a separate buss/group channel.

-insert a 1 or 2 band parametric on the channel. set a high pass filter at 200hz.

That should keep everything out of that area nicely. Sometimes I'll double up (chain) the filters even thereby steepening the roll off slope even more. Keeps the lowend clean.

good luck

good thread...thanks guys

I like to do what sounds best. But thats also why my shit is, well shit

cool stuff, im the one the finger points to for too much hi end... better start remastering

It could be what you are monitoring with. If it UNDER emphasizes the high end then your mixes will be high end "rich". This is why you want accurate and quite flat monitors.

humm....thanks again people...

one more question, what's the diff. among:
low shelf, peaking, high shelf
?

I've to eq these three too?

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Originally posted by tecnolover Kick-HP at 60hz, raise back up to 0db @40hz with a narrow notch filter high Q. Bassline-HP at 60-80hz if bassline plays on off beat (ie. not sounding simultaneously with kick).

Result = bass-light mixes.

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Originally posted by PlasticSoul one more question, what's the diff. among: low shelf, peaking, high shelf

Google!

http://www.arboretum.com/support/ma...oc_filters.html

EQing is like putting a puzzle together. Think of the frequencies (pieces)...you need to take clashing ones out (make the grooves in the pieces) so all of them can fit together in the spectrum (whole puzzle). There's no specific formula for EQing...just those general guidelines that experienced folks put out, but they're not definitive, because, once you start adding effects, layers, and stuff, things change.

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Originally posted by Chronosis Result = bass-light mixes.

Certainly as the last post said there is no one formula to perfect EQin'g. 60-80hz HP for the bassline is a very good starting point I've found. Fine tune to taste. I've found it nearly perfect for most bass sounds and IMO it isn't bass-light. What it is, is clean and keeps the whole kick/bass transition clean. The last mix i finished I set the HP at 50hz. It will vary depending on the bass sound and how much low freq rumble it has ofcourse. Samples and synths sound characteristics will vary.

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What it is, is clean and keeps the whole kick/bass transition clean.

Sure it keeps cause it doesn't have the very low end. Though I just realized that you do have low frequencies on your kick drum (not really a high pass filter at 60Hz, if you can bring the volume back at 40Hz), which can compensate.

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Originally posted by Chronosis Though I just realized that you do have low frequencies on your kick drum (not really a high pass filter at 60Hz, if you can bring the volume back at 40Hz), which can compensate.

It is a high pass filter. However, due to gradual roll off you still have attenuated lows down to 30hz and lower. You then use a second band set as a notch filter set very narrow and pull just the 40hz freq back up to 0db. This keeps the kick very clean and still gives you the lowend 'thump' at 40hz. To fine tune it you then sweep the band between 30-50hz listening carefully for the 'sweet spot' in your subwoofer. When you find it, all of a sudden your kick will sound tight, clear and in tune. You could also use a shelf instead of the HP but it doesn't produce quite as clean results.

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Originally posted by tecnolover It is a high pass filter. However, due to gradual roll off you still have attenuated lows down to 30hz and lower. You then use a second band set as a notch filter set very narrow and pull just the 40hz freq back up to 0db. This keeps the kick very clean and still gives you the lowend 'thump' at 40hz.

Hmm... Well I quess that works when you do it with a plugin in non-destructive editing. Remember though that if the sample has gone trough analog at any point, there is a noise floor. And if you would first attenuate the volume at 40Hz close to zero destructively, then bring up the volume again, you would have a really bad signal/noise ratio and reduced bit depth.

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