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Mode Hookers - Breathe/Instrumental

Which is which!? Jeeze, when I sample Instrumental I hear a track, then I sample Breate and I hear the same track, then I'll sample Instrumental again and I'll hear the same track, then I'll see remixes of Breathe and hear a remix of Instrumental?

Please explain.

As far as I know Instrumental is a version of Breathe.

well does breathe have vocals in it? maybe instrumental is just what it says, an instrumental version of breathe

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Originally posted by Philby well does breathe have vocals in it? maybe instrumental is just what it says, an instrumental version of breathe

No. They are two separate tracks. A friend has the vinyl.

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Originally posted by Allied Nations No. They are two separate tracks. A friend has the vinyl.

This appears true

http://www.discogs.com/release/481365

*bows to discogs

Sample of Instrumental from Club Nation 2005
Sample of Breathe from Breathe SVD Remix Vinyl
Sample of SVD Remix of Breathe
Sample of Breathe from AvB Year Mix
Sample of Instrumental from Subliminal Sessions Eight (mixed in part by Angello & Ingrosso

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Originally posted by Munchy Sample of Instrumental from Club Nation 2005 Sample of Breathe from Breathe SVD Remix Vinyl Sample of SVD Remix of Breathe Sample of Breathe from AvB Year Mix Sample of Instrumental from Subliminal Sessions Eight (mixed in part by Angello & Ingrosso

LOL!

all i know is that they all sounds like instrumental, i have it on vinyl. Never heard breathe.

Thank you for creating a thread on this.

[rant] I've been preaching to people about how they would hate Breathe if they heard it. Instrumental is the popular song, and when Armin mis-labeled it on ASOT. Everyone suddenly knew the song by another name. When Armin signed it to Armind he got Sander to remix it under the name of Breathe because that's what it was mostly known as. For the last friggin' time the song is called Instrumental, and it's not the "instrumental mix" of Breathe. It's just called Instrumental. Thank you. [/rant]

Oh and for the record, fuck this track. Angello himself said it was just filler. I can't even be on the dancefloor when this tune is playing. Worst of all I first hear it 6 odd months before it was released on a friends demo and was impressed by it for all of about 5 mins.

Breathe is no doubt a shitty song

Instrumental is some dirrrrrty house!

What's wrong with a filler track? I quite like filler tracks at times

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Originally posted by iammesol What's wrong with a filler track? I quite like filler tracks at times

Go away.

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Originally posted by Allied Nations Go away.

prick.

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Originally posted by djmetatron prick.

Did you read that statement?

Sure, it was a little harsh, but this is the MD...

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Originally posted by Allied Nations Did you read that statement? Sure, it was a little harsh, but this is the MD...

What's wrong with his statement? Do you know what a filler track is?

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Originally posted by djmetatron What's wrong with his statement? Do you know what a filler track is?

Relevant definitions:

fill�er1 Audio pronunciation of "filler" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (flr)
n.

One that fills, as:

1. Something added to augment weight or size or fill space.
4. A short item used to fill space in a publication.
5. Something, such as a news item, public-service message, or music, used to fill time in a radio or television presentation.



So bascially, nothing of any value.

I believe that every track should have something which separates it from the rest, something which makes each makes each track special. I wouldn't deem any of the tunes i play filler, I would however call the hundreds that are decent but I don't believe have that special something filler.

The dictionary has spoken.

EDIT: djmetatron KILLED DUMBELDORE! YOU BITCH!

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Originally posted by Allied Nations I believe that every track should have something which separates it from the rest, something which makes each makes each track special. I wouldn't deem any of the tunes i play filler, I would however call the hundreds that are decent but I don't believe have that special something filler.

Well, filler is a dj slang term that, as I�ve know, does not connotate something negative. Filler tracks are actually the most important tools for a good dance floor dj. They are tracks that are not so much ment to call attention to themselves but merely cause a change or transition in mood and vibe. They are the bridges that connect the more pop or peak tunes and they can be quite good in their own right. As a dj something like 'Instrumental' can be very valuable, but to just a dance music listener it may not be something that they would buy or enjoy just listening to by itself. There are better examples but this has already been discussed before.

Anyway I don't think 'filler' is really a good word for it but that's how the word is used by most dj's i know.

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Originally posted by djmetatron Well, filler is a dj slang term that, as I�ve know, does not connotate something negative. Filler tracks are actually the most important tools for a good dance floor dj. They are tracks that are not so much ment to call attention to themselves but merely cause a change or transition in mood and vibe. They are the bridges that connect the more pop or peak tunes and they can be quite good in their own right. As a dj something like 'Instrumental' can be very valuable, but to just a dance music listener it may not be something that they would buy or enjoy just listening to by itself. There are better examples but this has already been discussed before. Anyway I don't think 'filler' is really a good word for it but that's how the word is used by most dj's i know.

Please don't belittle me by lecturing me on "dj slang". I don't know what djs you know, how long you have been spinning or much about you as a dj at all, i do know your mixes get good reviews in the promotion forum, so that's all i can judge you from. You must have seen my mixes in their so you also know i am no reatrd when it comes to djing and "dj slang". i am by no means anywhere close to the top and am still constantly learning more and working my way up etc etc.. but I would still not call any of the tunes in my sets filler. I see what you are saying, i guess i just dont structure my sets around those big tunes.

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Originally posted by Allied Nations Please don't belittle me by lecturing me on "dj slang". I don't know what djs you know, how long you have been spinning or much about you as a dj at all, i do know your mixes get good reviews in the promotion forum, so that's all i can judge you from. You must have seen my mixes in their so you also know i am no reatrd when it comes to djing and "dj slang". i am by no means anywhere close to the top and am still constantly learning more and working my way up etc etc.. but I would still not call any of the tunes in my sets filler. I see what you are saying, i guess i just dont structure my sets around those big tunes. ...

I didn't mean to belittle you at all. It's all good. I just thought that was the standard use of the term in the industry and was sharing it. Could be wrong about it, I'm no pro myself.

On a side note I have sampled a couple of your mixes and couldn't really take to your style. Just a difference of tastes, but I can tell you have a genuine passion and your experience is greater than the majority so again, in no way was I trying to belittle you.

Btw I like your sigs and logos. Nice work.

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Originally posted by djmetatron I didn't mean to belittle you at all. It's all good. I just thought that was the standard use of the term in the industry and was sharing it. Could be wrong about it, I'm no pro myself. On a side note I have sampled a couple of your mixes and couldn't really take to your style. Just a difference of tastes, but I can tell you have a genuine passion and your experience is greater than the majority so again, in no way was I trying to belittle you. Btw I like your sigs and logos. Nice work.

Thanks a lot.. My style can be hard to absorb for some people.. It's pretty nasty.. I still agree, my reaction to Iammesol's comment was too harsh, but wtvr. I suppose i really just don't like either Breath or Instrumental.. or much of anything angello and his crew have done in the last year, year and a half...

I will make sure to check out some of your mixes soon.. see what you have to offer.

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Originally posted by Allied Nations Thanks a lot.. My style can be hard to absorb for some people.. It's pretty nasty.. I still agree, my reaction to Iammesol's comment was too harsh, but wtvr. I suppose i really just don't like either Breath or Instrumental.. or much of anything angello and his crew have done in the last year, year and a half... I will make sure to check out some of your mixes soon.. see what you have to offer.

cheers. lol, yeah i think i may be on the other side of that spectrum.

but cool, maybe your not such a prick after all.

Well that was a sweet come-together, but nobody cleared up what a filler is

First of all, you're right. The word "filler" is the one of the worst words possible to call this type of track, but that's what it's called, so I use "filler." To me, a filler is a track that you drop after a seriously banging tune that gets the crowd crazy. Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, you can't play 110% crazy get up and dance music the entire set. People need to go to the bathroom, have a drink, and rest from dancing, not to mention the fact that a person's mind gets spoiled after hearing an hour of non-stop amazing tunage. I use these tracks to take the mood back down, and later build back up into that crazy awesome omg tune that everyone loves.

In no way do I drop crap tracks in the middle of my set because I'm bored and don't want to think anymore. That's not a filler. That just doesn't fit in the mix.

Allied Nations, I'm not surprised at all you don't like The Mafia. A lot of people don't and that's fine. Listen to what you wanna' listen to and be happy. Not to be that overly optimistic guy, but check my sig. I'm me, and you're you. Forget persecution because it goes nowhere.

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Originally posted by Allied Nations So bascially, nothing of any value. I believe that every track should have something which separates it from the rest, something which makes each makes each track special. I wouldn't deem any of the tunes i play filler, I would however call the hundreds that are decent but I don't believe have that special something filler.

a "filler" track to me is a song that is used to build emotion or energy in a set before a climax... kind of like foreplay during sex. it's not the main event, but it definitely has an impact on how hard or intense the climax hits you... so i wouldn't say filler tracks are completely devoid of any value.

i think the term "filler track" just sounds so negative and people definitely have their own definitions of it. basically... i see filler tracks as being the opposite of epic peak-time tracks. i listen to plenty of sets that have tracks that i find down-right boring when listened to alone, but when they're placed in the right part of a set they can really make a big impact on how the set builds. i think also some tracks might be considered filler in the context of one set, whereas in another set they might sound huge.

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Originally posted by iammesol First of all, you're right. The word "filler" is the one of the worst words possible to call this type of track, but that's what it's called, so I use "filler." To me, a filler is a track that you drop after a seriously banging tune that gets the crowd crazy. Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, you can't play 110% crazy get up and dance music the entire set. People need to go to the bathroom, have a drink, and rest from dancing, not to mention the fact that a person's mind gets spoiled after hearing an hour of non-stop amazing tunage. I use these tracks to take the mood back down, and later build back up into that crazy awesome omg tune that everyone loves.

I guess I just dj completely different because I've never based my set progression around getting to that one big track...i prefer to just play consistently good tunes which move the energy up song by song.

So for me, and my opinion...

Filler is crap, for the reasons i listed above - but that's just my opinion. But that's just how i define it.

You think this is filler cuz it keeps the mood going after peak hour.

I think its filler because it is a bad track devoid of anything that i find interesting and set worthy.

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