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Hi guys.. just wondering what the best way to get a FULLER sound to my mix is. Im not unhappy with it but it needs to be tighter. Anyone know any good FX plugins or compression programs i could buy?

And if anyones got any tips on compressors or plugins please feel free to drop me a line.

Basically if anyone has any tips to give my mixes more life please speak now.

kind regards

-citizenaudio

The problem that you have with mixing your tracks on a DAW is that it sounds too sterile and too clean. What you can do to compensate this is use a Tape/Tube type distortion plugin through your mix which will make your tracks sound tight and warm.

I believe Voxengo have a nice Tape plugin in their Analog Suite

thanks for the tip man i'll give that a go

Sterio Seperation?

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Originally posted by JustinMead Sterio Seperation?

Stereo Seperation certainly creates that big sound.

Layering and better/phatter instruments?

Properly using EQ >> Compression >> and operating the stereo width/panning.

These have all been no brainers pretty much... so I'm gonna go for the big one:

You Need Love.

Which, incidentally, is the most important ingrediant when making cookies for sleeping beauty.

Huh, if they used trance in that movie, I would watch it more, because she was pretty hot anyway.

Seriously though, trance in Disney movies would rock pretty hard.

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Originally posted by djglacial Seriously though, trance in Disney movies would rock pretty hard.

HAHA!! I'm not inclined to agree -- but somehow I can see it.

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Originally posted by Four_On_Four-er HAHA!! I'm not inclined to agree -- but somehow I can see it.

You'll turn. Believe me, I'm like Vader when it comes to things like this.

For example, imagine Cinderella, Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, and to keep it politically correct, Pokahontis, all having an under water rave at the Little Mermaids sub-marine warehouse.

Bambi can come too, cuz he's the pimp, and I heard he can breakdance pretty good.


But yah for a fuller sound, try turning the speakers up.

Usually works.

I haven't heard your mixes so i can't comment much. Only thing I can say is that layering can thicken your sound. Also, your source sounds need to be Phat. Usually this means having some freqs in the 250hz range. makes things sound warmer and fatter. compression can help too. Some light chorusing can help too.

thanks for the tips guys.. i mannaged to find an analogue modeling compressor and put it on mu master mix in cubase.. makes the sound alot richer and created a sort of smooth feel as apposed to the clinical sound of the daw... i'll upload my tune soon so you guys can have a listen... its electro / tech house... catchy and with great sounds ..

play with the levels of each track until the quiet bits become more apparent. make sure your kick doesnt eat too much headroom. dont was low headroom on sounds that dont require it. save it for the bass and the kick layers..

use reverb sparingly on tracks to fill the empty spaces you dont want..?

a phat sound source like a virus always helps..

cheers...

im using z3ta and im gettin some SICK sounds out.. i tend not to use reverb as it seems to cloud the mix, but your right in places where you need a bit more texture it helps...

I could be wrong:

Proper use of reverb and delay... not too sparring. I think there is a balance. Even certain rolling basslines benefit from some liberal amounts of wet signals.

However, at my level of production, I'm always treading water that I don't know the depth of.

i know what ya mean four on four er.

i suppose if ya require it then you should use as much verb as ya can get away with without it dirtying the mix.

i find that splitting the bass track into the lows and the mid/highs and then adding verb to just the mid highs works well.. then ya dont muddy the low bass freqs..

a lot of (or too much) reverb but then a sidechain compression over it works nice on some parts of tracks aswell..

the fuckin trippiest thing is watching cartoons, but mute the volume, and then listen to some rap. do this while high, it will trip you out...next time i will try it with a disney movie.

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Originally posted by ASFSE the fuckin trippiest thing is watching cartoons, but mute the volume, and then listen to some rap. do this while high, it will trip you out...next time i will try it with a disney movie.

WTF, homes!? We weren't even talking about rap!

Slow mowshun wit me, move in slow mowshun wit me... Jasmine ...


Yah, I'd like to rub her lamp...


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k now it's getting sick.

I don't think anyone's suggested putting instruments at various stereo positions. It seems like it would throw your mix off at first, but if you put your sounds at different positions at left and right, they begin to mix better and the song begins to feel much fatter.

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Bambi can come too, cuz he's the pimp, and I heard he can breakdance pretty good.

Just don't insult his mother; he'll kick your ass.

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i find that splitting the bass track into the lows and the mid/highs and then adding verb to just the mid highs works well.. then ya dont muddy the low bass freqs..

Im curious what kind of EQ plugin you use. I think Ozone has something similar to that in it's reverb. Ofcourse reverbs like Waves stuff does have built in EQ graphing too. Or maybe you do it manually, ie. route the track to to 3 different channels each with a different filter setting?

To the other poster, i understand your fear of using reverb and it is justifiable because it can really muddy a mix in a hurry. Just do A/B comparisons by muting your effects channel and it's easy to hear the differences. However, reverb really is important in trance music.

The best advice I can give you is to learn how to set it properly and really pay attention to the low end freq filter section on your reverb unit. You will be amazed how much cleaner your mix will sound when you raise the cutoff and filter out those low end reflections. The low stuff really is nasty on mixes.

i use a behringer dualfex 2 and or dualfex pro to get that sound, it is hardware, but maybe behringer has a software version of their products?

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Originally posted by tecnolover Im curious what kind of EQ plugin you use. I think Ozone has something similar to that in it's reverb. Ofcourse reverbs like Waves stuff does have built in EQ graphing too. Or maybe you do it manually, ie. route the track to to 3 different channels each with a different filter setting?

i just mirror my bass track so there are two of them.. then cut the bass from the one im verbing and cut the highs from the one im using as the low part.. get it right and it sounds like the single basstrack with verb.. but without the verb affecting the lows..

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Originally posted by richg101 i just mirror my bass track so there are two of them.. then cut the bass from the one im verbing and cut the highs from the one im using as the low part.. get it right and it sounds like the single basstrack with verb.. but without the verb affecting the lows..

i must try that over the weekend.see what sound i can come up with

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