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Posted by Salegon on Mar-12-2006 17:48:

Question Different tunes in one set

(if this is the wrong forum for my thread please shift it)

Which order would you prefer when putting the following tracks in one set:

Agnelli and Nelson - Everyday(extended)
Armin - Blue Fear
Art of Trance - Mongoose(Tektonik Remix)
Atwater Syndicate - Caliente
BT - Believer
Chicane - Mojave
Galaxy - Higher Frequency
G&M Project - Sunday Afternoon (Original Mix)
Grinder - Runaway(Original Mix)
Jakatta - American Dream(Afterlife Mix)
Kaistar - The Promethean Groove(Deepsky Remix)
Lolo - Why?
Lp - Progress
Nickelson - Ying(Solid Globe Remix)
Patient Saints - Imperpetuum Mobila
Sasha - Xpander
Signum - In Progress
Solid Globe - North Pole
Son Kite - Massive
X-Trax - Plan 94(The Voyage)(Northface Remix)
Yellow Blackboard - Superfly(Andy Moor Remix)
Yellow Screen - Out of time

I know these tunes do not really match, but I was asked to create a set out of them so I will do. I am grateful for any help of you.


Posted by skip on Mar-12-2006 20:56:

you only have 1124000727777607680000 possible combinations, it's not so hard to figure out which one's the best.


Posted by UWM on Mar-12-2006 21:14:

Re: Different tunes in one set

quote:
Originally posted by Salegon

Lolo - Why?
Sasha - Xpander


Just don't play these back to back, as they're essentially the same track.


Posted by Salegon on Mar-13-2006 02:54:

Re: Re: Different tunes in one set

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
Just don't play these back to back, as they're essentially the same track.


yeah, a lot of these tracks sound pretty similar
[for example "Out of time"/"progress"/"in progress"/plan 94(the voyage)(northface remix)/even some elements of "runaway"]

This is exactly why I(as a n00b) need your pool of wisdom to suggest
a decent tracklist for those tunes.

If this is the wrong board for my concern, please shift this thread into the correct board.


Posted by nils on Mar-13-2006 11:41:

trust your gut


Posted by Simcut on Mar-13-2006 12:43:

Mate, if you want to progress as a DJ you've got to make the decision for yourself, not let other people decide for you.


Posted by Jeremy H on Mar-13-2006 12:51:

quote:
Originally posted by skip
you only have 1124000727777607680000 possible combinations, it's not so hard to figure out which one's the best.


EDIT: I loose at life

quote:
Originally posted by Simcut
Mate, if you want to progress as a DJ you've got to make the decision for yourself, not let other people decide for you.

^


Posted by Mortyman on Mar-13-2006 13:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Simcut
Mate, if you want to progress as a DJ you've got to make the decision for yourself, not let other people decide for you.


Exactly man! Do it yourself, then put up with the comments and critisms as they come. Play for the right reasons... play for yourself


Posted by Ted Promo on Mar-13-2006 13:26:

I'd say alphabetical...

so

keep it!

All sets should be mixed alphabetically!


Posted by Massive on Mar-13-2006 13:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Jeremy H
No.

22^22 = 341427877364219557396646723584


^


actually skip was right.
it's 22x21x20x19x...x2x1 = 1124000727777607680000


Posted by mentalbarter on Mar-13-2006 14:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Demoted
I'd say alphabetical...

so

keep it!

All sets should be mixed alphabetically!


ftw!


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Mar-13-2006 15:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Jeremy H
No.

22^22 = 341427877364219557396646723584


I wouldn't correct someone at maths if you don't know how to do it yourself.

Take a scientific calculator. Enter the number of tunes (22) and press "!" after it. The answer is the total number of possible combinations, assuming that none of the set of 22 are the same. There's a formula for how the "!" key works, but I can't (nor need to) remember it.

1.12x10^21 is the right answer.


Posted by Jeremy H on Mar-13-2006 15:07:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Massive
actually skip was right.
it's 22x21x20x19x...x2x1 = 1124000727777607680000


Haha, he could use the same track more than one time couldnt he?
Ok, I admit.. forgot that

Alphabetically sounds like a great idea! Would be cool to do with a good tracklist tho

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I wouldn't correct someone at maths if you don't know how to do it yourself

Dude, relax? I know how permutations work


Posted by Massive on Mar-13-2006 15:13:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I wouldn't correct someone at maths if you don't know how to do it yourself.

Take a scientific calculator. Enter the number of tunes (22) and press "!" after it. The answer is the total number of possible combinations, assuming that none of the set of 22 are the same. There's a formula for how the "!" key works, but I can't (nor need to) remember it.

1.12x10^21 is the right answer.


So skip and myself were right

22! (or 22 nPr 22) do the trick on my Texas Instruments-83

Be aware that 22! is the same as calculating 22x21x20x19x...x2x1, for the not-so-geniuses, only difference being that the scientific calc gives 1.12x10^21 as an answer for 22!, and 1124000727777607680000 for 22x21x20x19x...x2x1.


Posted by Massive on Mar-13-2006 15:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Jeremy H
Haha, he could use the same track more than one time couldnt he?


if his name is Paul van Dyk, yes


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Mar-13-2006 15:29:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Massive
Be aware that 22! is the same as calculating 22x21x20x19x...x2x1, for the not-so-geniuses, only difference being that the scientific calc gives 1.12x10^21 as an answer for 22!, and 1124000727777607680000 for 22x21x20x19x...x2x1.


It gave me a much more accurate answer. I just couldn't be arsed to write it.


Posted by Massive on Mar-13-2006 15:35:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
It gave me a much more accurate answer. I just couldn't be arsed to write it.


Yeah got it too on the TI-83 here, thought I'd stick to the 1.12x10^21 too, keeping it easy


1.124000728x10^21, I'd probably have to make it 1.12 or 1.124 on a math test anyway, getting used to rounding it off


Posted by skip on Mar-13-2006 15:49:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Massive
Yeah got it too on the TI-83 here, thought I'd stick to the 1.12x10^21 too, keeping it easy


1.124000728x10^21, I'd probably have to make it 1.12 or 1.124 on a math test anyway, getting used to rounding it off




omg! we even have the same calculator! although i have the ti-83 Plus!


Posted by Jeremy H on Mar-13-2006 16:25:

quote:
Originally posted by skip
omg! we even have the same calculator! although i have the ti-83 Plus!


matlab or mathematica ftw


Posted by Massive on Mar-13-2006 16:31:

quote:
Originally posted by skip
omg! we even have the same calculator! although i have the ti-83 Plus!



can't live without it!


Posted by skip on Mar-13-2006 16:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Jeremy H
matlab or mathematica ftw



those are for n00bs. mathcad is what true men use!



quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Massive
can't live without it!


i think it's ok, but it's the shittiest proper TI there is, so i doesn't have nearly all the functions i'd want. anyway far better than casio or some other crap calculator!


Posted by Salegon on Mar-13-2006 21:50:

I didn't ask for how many possibilities exist to create a tracklist but thanks anyway.


Despite making fun of me there might be still somebody out of all those TAs that can give me a good suggestion for a tracklist.


Posted by Floorfiller on Mar-13-2006 22:00:

i hate threads like this.


Posted by GuvLuuver on Mar-14-2006 00:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Salegon

Despite making fun of me there might be still somebody out of all those TAs that can give me a good suggestion for a tracklist.


no... i really dont think so. being a dj takes some creative enginuity. u gotta take it upon urself. or dont be a dj


Posted by Jordan Stevens on Mar-14-2006 00:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Simcut
Mate, if you want to progress as a DJ you've got to make the decision for yourself, not let other people decide for you.


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