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Posted by Effero on Mar-12-2006 23:42:

Sneaker Pimp [Melodic Trance] Effero-Born Again (original mix) [96 kbps full]

Hi,
this is my latest production. It's 7:26 long and a combination of melow melodies and driving rhythms. This was a true inspiration so the melody is really what I liked the most. The whole process of making this trancer was very joyful and relatively fast, since the song was finished in about one week's time.
For now I'm sharing a 96kbps file. I'm sending a demo to di.fm to see if they're interested and if they're not I could send a link to a 128kbps or higher to potentially interested DJ's.
Please listen to it and don't hesitate to comment. There is always room for improvement. Your opinion definitely counts my fellow tranceaddicts.
Sincerely,
Effero

P.S. I updated the link on March 17, 2006. with the remixed and remastered file. Please see the last Effero post for the list of changes.
Effero-Born Again 96 kbps full (updated)


Posted by lagrom12 on Mar-12-2006 23:49:

solid track,
i like the bass, percs and the estuerish melo (like in.. "Jonas Steur - Castamara")

its only in 96kb, but would really like to hear it in better quality

keep it up bro, sounds good


Posted by Effero on Mar-12-2006 23:58:

quote:
solid track,
i like the bass, percs and the estuerish melo (like in.. "Jonas Steur - Castamara")

its only in 96kb, but would really like to hear it in better quality

keep it up bro, sounds good


Thanks lagrom12,
I'm willing to share a higher bitrate with interested DJ's to promote the song. If you want to play the track anywhere, let me know and I'll send you a link.
I appreciate the comments, glad you liked it


Posted by Four_On_Four-er on Mar-13-2006 03:17:

This is a rather solid production. What equipment, you using, man?

You're looking at DI.fm? I'm not going to stop you, but I don't even know how that process works...

Arrangement of the buildup is not bad at all. The PLucked-Feedback lead is solid.
The highhats are sippy enough.

Nice swish-down effect with the melody. Good idea.

Breakdown is empty at the beginning and filled with some interesting effects at first. The bassline during the breakdown was perfect IMO... good cutoff and timbre.

After the breakdown - I wish the melody would be seperated from the tempest motif a little more... That aspect is the only muddy thing that comes to my attention upon the first listen. Dunno if EQ is in order or not.

I'm not so sure if the second breakdown was necessary... There wasn't a whole lot of new ideas introduced.

The melody worked... I like it -- this trance just didn't do a whole lot for me. It was a very well made production, however. Thanks for sharing.


Posted by Effero on Mar-13-2006 14:50:

quote:
This is a rather solid production. What equipment, you using, man?

You're looking at DI.fm? I'm not going to stop you, but I don't even know how that process works...

Arrangement of the buildup is not bad at all. The PLucked-Feedback lead is solid.
The highhats are sippy enough.

Nice swish-down effect with the melody. Good idea.

Breakdown is empty at the beginning and filled with some interesting effects at first. The bassline during the breakdown was perfect IMO... good cutoff and timbre.

After the breakdown - I wish the melody would be seperated from the tempest motif a little more... That aspect is the only muddy thing that comes to my attention upon the first listen. Dunno if EQ is in order or not.

I'm not so sure if the second breakdown was necessary... There wasn't a whole lot of new ideas introduced.

The melody worked... I like it -- this trance just didn't do a whole lot for me. It was a very well made production, however. Thanks for sharing.


Thanks for the in-depth review...
Regarding submitting to di.fm...I'll try and see what happens. Since I'm not a DJ it would be good to have a track played in as many different venues as possible.
I came to a point where the technical side of making a track is almost not a problem anymore. The most difficult part I believe comes now with unique arrangements, sounds and melodies. Your comments are helping, because they reinforce some opinions I had during making of this track.
Thanks for the input again.
Regarding the equipment, I use Nordrack3 and a JP8000. My computer does all the real time processing of the recorded tracks so there is not too much room left for softsynths, so I stay away from those for now.
Regards
Effero


Posted by Four_On_Four-er on Mar-13-2006 19:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Effero
I came to a point where the technical side of making a track is almost not a problem anymore. The most difficult part I believe comes now with unique arrangements, sounds and melodies. Your comments are helping, because they reinforce some opinions I had during making of this track.
Thanks for the input again.
Regarding the equipment, I use Nordrack3 and a JP8000. My computer does all the real time processing of the recorded tracks so there is not too much room left for softsynths, so I stay away from those for now.
Regards
Effero


I'm glad you've come a long way with your production skillz. I'm still trying to get all my softsynths and such in gear.

It's also cool to not have to rely on softsynths as much. I have one hardsynth... JP8080. I enjoy using it alot, and the sound is hard to beat. I almost bought a Nordrack 3 a while back, but someone beat me to it - I'm not kidding.

Not dissing software -- I actually prefer to use both.


Posted by marcusk on Mar-14-2006 02:59:

Effero,

- Really liking your intro. I like the rhythm of the bass line, and thos
- Break: is nice
- Main part: I can't quite put my finger on it, but I wish it sounded a little more differently than the rest of the track. I think maybe you need to turn down the High's on your drums. At least in the intro, so that in the main part, the treble is good loud so it sounds distinct from the intro.

Overall nice flowing track


Posted by gowansy on Mar-14-2006 05:52:

hey nice track m8, i really like it, could do with a better quality one posted tho!


Posted by Effero on Mar-14-2006 15:20:

quote:
Effero,

- Really liking your intro. I like the rhythm of the bass line, and thos
- Break: is nice
- Main part: I can't quite put my finger on it, but I wish it sounded a little more differently than the rest of the track. I think maybe you need to turn down the High's on your drums. At least in the intro, so that in the main part, the treble is good loud so it sounds distinct from the intro.

Overall nice flowing track

Thanks,
I noticed the same thing regarding the highs. I was just trying to set up my Dynaudios properly, and I did, but forgot that whatever I hear from now on is a true representation of the mix. Before the highs were overexaggerated, so if they seemed to be louder in a mix that was alright on other systems. Anyway, thanks for all the comments.

quote:
hey nice track m8, i really like it, could do with a better quality one posted tho!

Thanks man, as mentioned, if you're willing to play a track for the public (club, party or an online radio program...) let me know and I'll send you a high qulity mp3 link.
Cheers
Effero


Posted by pho mo on Mar-15-2006 22:40:

Hey man, awesome track here! Can't judge the production in depth because of the bit-rate, but from what I can hear the mix is spot on.

The melody in this stands out as being excellent, if not unique (sorry - can't hear anything else but Castamara from the first three notes, which is unfortunate because the rest of the melody is obviously your own and does sound inspired). Especially though I love the way this is stripped down trance and the melody gets its rightful place as stand-out element. I'm forever layering my tunes to the max and ending up messy so I can definitely appreciate your tunes minimalism.

Just awesome!


Posted by Effero on Mar-16-2006 14:30:

quote:
Hey man, awesome track here! Can't judge the production in depth because of the bit-rate, but from what I can hear the mix is spot on.

The melody in this stands out as being excellent, if not unique (sorry - can't hear anything else but Castamara from the first three notes, which is unfortunate because the rest of the melody is obviously your own and does sound inspired). Especially though I love the way this is stripped down trance and the melody gets its rightful place as stand-out element. I'm forever layering my tunes to the max and ending up messy so I can definitely appreciate your tunes minimalism.

Just awesome!


Thanks for the kind words....I have to say that the some inspiration came from different tracks, but you're right....the melody composition is original.
Of course, this is not my first track, and I made the same mistakes a lot of producers make when they layer sounds. Even though layering is something definitely beneficial to your tracks, you have to be very careful regarding number of elements present during any part of the track. Yes, some people will say, your breakdown seems kind of empty at the beggining, but this is something I was going for on purpose, meaning, start with relatively few instruments and build it up over the progression of the break.
My point is, that I did the same thing before as you and hundreds of other amateur producers on this forum. Layer and layer and layer some more without thinking on the number of elements present in a mix. I learned that if you want to have a mix that people can listen to, it's always good to have maximum 5 elements. Less is even better. This is not something I came up with, but a rule used by many enginners during mixdown. Foundation might be one of the elements and usually includes the whole drum section and a bass together. So, as long as your drums and a bass are playing together in a unique driving fashion, that is considered one element.
I hope this will help a little bit with your future projects.
The road to being a better producer is never ending and I'm just starting too.
Thanks again for the comments...I appreciate it


Effero


Posted by kopi_luwak on Mar-16-2006 20:01:

Hey,
This is a really solid tune as mentioned before dude, but I concur with four about the second break, otherwise good job mate keep it up .
Kopi =o.


Posted by Andy French on Mar-16-2006 21:05:

I like this, I could see Armin spinning this. I agree with Marcusk about the highs on your percs, they almost hurt my ears. I also think that you should make them a bit more intricate as well...they kind of get repetetive. Other than that, i can't find any faults - this is a pretty bitchin tune dude. Good Luck!

Andy

btw you should check out my SvD remix
http://www.savefile.com/files/7065298


Posted by Effero on Mar-16-2006 21:10:

Thanks kopi
and Andy,
I'll reduce the highs on drums to make it more listenable.
Thanks for the suggestion...what would I do without you guys?
Cheers
Effero


Posted by covert23 on Mar-16-2006 22:17:

Evil1 nice tune

solid track you got there nice wqrm up stuff...keep up the good work...
reveiw my track....99 orange st...by covert23 thanks..


Posted by Effero on Mar-17-2006 13:30:

Hi,
I just updated the mix. The lead was panned more to the right to achive balance and clarity with the arp, drums were reequalized to achive proper amount of high frequencies and mastering was done fresh from scratch to achieve clean and present frequencies from low to high. I also got rid of the second break since it was repetitive.
Thanks for all the suggestions. It really helped.
I feel that the mix now sounds much better and tighter, but would definitely appreciate your opinion.
Please download the new file here:
Effero-Born Again 96 kbps full

Thanks again
Effero


Posted by covert23 on Mar-17-2006 18:10:

Evil1 nice track

need a better quality download for a full review...solid production.nice ideas keep it up.....


Posted by Effero on Mar-17-2006 19:15:

quote:
need a better quality download for a full review...solid production.nice ideas keep it up.....

Thanks covert23,
for now I can only share the 96 kbps but thanks for the input
Effero


Posted by websley on Mar-18-2006 01:28:

Hi,

Nice production skills here, I like all the buzzing synths a lot. 1:58 - Nice sound, reminds me of Estuera. (like mentioned before) Don't like the part when the break is almost over... that fill-in doesn't feel very nice. It sounds like just a few bass slaps, and *Wham*, into full-mode.
The arp melody now makes me feel like I'm walking through a desert!
Try to work on the perc and rhythm. They sound a bit too "loose", or "slapping".


Posted by Effero on Mar-18-2006 01:35:

quote:
Hi,

Nice production skills here, I like all the buzzing synths a lot. 1:58 - Nice sound, reminds me of Estuera. (like mentioned before) Don't like the part when the break is almost over... that fill-in doesn't feel very nice. It sounds like just a few bass slaps, and *Wham*, into full-mode.
The arp melody now makes me feel like I'm walking through a desert!
Try to work on the perc and rhythm. They sound a bit too "loose", or "slapping".

Thanks for the suggestions, I have tons of room for improvement and just the right feedback from the fellow tranceaddicts.
Thanks websley
I tried to listen to your track today but the yousendit link expired
Cheers
Effero


Posted by Fearless One on Mar-18-2006 14:58:

Thumbs up

just finished listening, and i gotta admit that very solid piece if music... liked those greate strings during breakdown, very nice percussion and drums as well
nicely produced, there's a good progression in this track, overall you've made a good job on it.... well done

btw... don't forget to check my track


Posted by Majutsu on Mar-18-2006 15:23:

very slick production

nice intro

The arp creeping in at .40 is very well done.

I think the energy sags at 1.00 and starts to dull. This happens several times. The whole track would be less dull and tight in a 3-5min format like the small spins. A 12in would be monotonous because of staying on transitions too long in my uneducated opinion.

The melody at 2.40 is very engaging. It actually reminds me of old cowboy movies



The break is great. No complaints at all. Probably the finest moment.

The arp, kick and everything revisiting at about 4.00 is very uninspired. This is really your opportunity to drop a bomb. You have 4.34 an acid-y lick faintly that really should be cultivated, but that's me.

I ended up wandering off from the comp. It is not unpleasant, and no way I would turn it off. It just sort of inspires you to wander around, socialize, chat, drink, etc. Perfect for a light housy/trance set, with a lot of sexuality. I bet the ladies love it.

I can't help you on the dj thing since it's not my kind at all. But I'm sure someone would help. If you don't get any takers, there's a dj in dallas looking for fresh stuff that would love this.


Posted by Drik on Mar-18-2006 15:32:

I _really_ dig that trancey sharp arpeg lead you have going in it, I think it carries the whole track and when you do the shifts at 4:28 it sounds just superb and great.

I dig the short snappy saw bass you do machinegun style with at intervals, sounds cool

The other lead sounds good, though I think it gets a tad too loud when you sharpen it in parts and could be cranked down a small bit in volume

Pumping track mate, great work!


Posted by Effero on Mar-18-2006 17:06:

Thanks for the good suggestions Drik


Posted by LENG on Mar-18-2006 18:22:

hi... the song is pretty clean cut... i like the fact that it isn't muddy or too many sounds at the same time. the only thing that i didn't quite like is the pad... much resonance there... i'd prefer a dreamier one. the pluck is spot on... pretty nice btw, what did u use for the bassline? it's vrey nice sounding...


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