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Posted by CranberryJuice on Mar-14-2006 19:49:

what do u think of legal prostitution?

so it was on the news again ....for u european u maybe know that in germany prostitution is legal and brothels are a common thing ....so as u know in next june it's the world cup in germany so they were showing that next to the berlin stadium they built like a big brothel very luxurous with sauna and swimming pool and bedrooms for the future customers .....the owner of the brother was saying a lot of supporters will probably go to have some fun and that all this future money will be good as well for berlin's city they also interviewed a prostitute ( very ugly one but had a nice body) and she said indeed she was paying taxes had welfare and it was good that here in germany prostitution is legal .....right now there are around 400,000 prostitutes in germany (not all of them are voluntaries) but everyday in germany 1 million of customers go see the prostitutes (when u think germany has like 82 millions of people !!!) but what do u think?

in france brothels have been closed decades ago but some debates are still on to see if we should open them up again.....

im pretty mixed up actually ....of course it would be a good idea if prostitutes were having welfare in case they get sick or ....and everything but it's hard for me to believe that some girls become prostitutes by choice ....im sure it exists but to me it's a minority ....to me most of girls become prostitutes because of networks ..mafia and pimps ...so i just wanted your opinion about legal prostitution


Posted by Psy-T on Mar-14-2006 19:55:

i see no reason why prostitution should be kept illegal...


Posted by Shakka on Mar-14-2006 20:03:

oldest profession in the world...

Perhaps lightly regulated to prevent STDs or other potential negatives, but I don't think it should be illegal.


Posted by ali92 on Mar-14-2006 20:11:

Re: what do u think of legal prostitution?

quote:
Originally posted by CranberryJuice
so it was on the news again ....for u european u maybe know that in germany prostitution is legal and brothels are a common thing ....so as u know in next june it's the world cup in germany so they were showing that next to the berlin stadium they built like a big brothel very luxurous with sauna and swimming pool and bedrooms for the future customers .....the owner of the brother was saying a lot of supporters will probably go to have some fun and that all this future money will be good as well for berlin's city they also interviewed a prostitute ( very ugly one but had a nice body) and she said indeed she was paying taxes had welfare and it was good that here in germany prostitution is legal .....right now there are around 400,000 prostitutes in germany (not all of them are voluntaries) but everyday in germany 1 million of customers go see the prostitutes (when u think germany has like 82 millions of people !!!) but what do u think?

in france brothels have been closed decades ago but some debates are still on to see if we should open them up again.....

im pretty mixed up actually ....of course it would be a good idea if prostitutes were having welfare in case they get sick or ....and everything but it's hard for me to believe that some girls become prostitutes by choice ....im sure it exists but to me it's a minority ....to me most of girls become prostitutes because of networks ..mafia and pimps ...so i just wanted your opinion about legal prostitution
I'm fine with prostitution being completely legal, as long as there are safe-guards in place to promote safe sex. It could reduce current moral stigma in society to a more acceptable level. In Canada and Japan, companionship services (where if sex happens, things led to it but weren't known prior to the parties encountering) are more popular than in USA and people see it more as A-OK.

So, yes make it legal and regulate it with proper safe-guards like any other industry/business!


Posted by occrider on Mar-14-2006 20:15:

It's somewhat hypocritical to legalize the adult entertainment industry while outlawing prostitution. No one's rights are being affronted, the government has no business legislating morality.


Posted by ali92 on Mar-14-2006 20:25:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
It's somewhat hypocritical to legalize the adult entertainment industry while outlawing prostitution. No one's rights are being affronted, the government has no business legislating morality.
Right. Like Bill MAHER once spoke about this: They don't have any right to legislate taste. This is the same problem with marriage laws: either give the special legal benefits to _everyone_ or _no-one_ at all. Don't choose A over B just because of your own tastes or even what's common.


Posted by HardTranceProd on Mar-14-2006 20:30:

Absolutely. Prostitution should be legal and it's everybody's own business what they do sexually.

A very simple argument showing why it must be legal is this: If you work in the porn industry, the actors there f*ck for money, and nobody prosecutes them. So why should your average Joe be prosecuted?

The only instances in which it must be illegal is pimping (i.e. forcing somebody to engage in this) or where otherwise some law is broken (e.g. underage). But what two consenting adults do is their own business and nobody else's.

How ironic that the "Land of the Free" fails to grasp this very simple concept but hey, there's always Europe!

BTW, in Germany and some other European countries, many wives willingly send their husbands to prostitutes (e.g. if the husband needs more frequent sex and they're not in the mood). Also many youngsters lose their virginity to prostitutes. A German high-schooler once told me that was true of all the guys in his class.


Posted by CranberryJuice on Mar-14-2006 20:48:

i remenber i was in secondary schoo and a guy older than me he was like 16 at this time told me it was like a ritual to go see a prostitute for their first time ....and he actually went to see a prostitute for his first time .....well if u ask me it kinda sucks but whatever everybody is different right?


Posted by Zombie0915 on Mar-14-2006 20:53:

im fine with the legal prostitution as long as chix dont get forced into that industry due to there being no other oppurtunities for them, cuz that amnounts to sex slaves despite the fact that they get paid.


Posted by Psy-T on Mar-14-2006 20:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0915
im fine with the legal prostitution as long as chix dont get forced into that industry due to there being no other oppurtunities for them, cuz that amnounts to sex slaves despite the fact that they get paid.


how can one be forced into a legal industry? (except the military )


Posted by Zombie0915 on Mar-14-2006 20:59:

one needs money to live, it is easy to picture a situation where nobody except a pimp will hire a woman, or a person who desparetely needs money who has no other way to get it enter the sex trade.

just saying you have to be careful that the people who work these jobs have other options if it is not their prefered line of work, I'm sure you've seen monster before.


Posted by HardTranceProd on Mar-14-2006 21:03:

quote:
Originally posted by CranberryJuice
i remenber i was in secondary schoo and a guy older than me he was like 16 at this time told me it was like a ritual to go see a prostitute for their first time ....and he actually went to see a prostitute for his first time .....well if u ask me it kinda sucks but whatever everybody is different right?


From a girl's point of view it's weird, but females will never understand certain needs that guys have.


Posted by CranberryJuice on Mar-14-2006 21:10:

hardprod i think u are right .....


to unworld about monster ....u mean the movie right?


Posted by Psy-T on Mar-14-2006 21:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0915
one needs money to live, it is easy to picture a situation where nobody except a pimp will hire a woman, or a person who desparetely needs money who has no other way to get it enter the sex trade.

just saying you have to be careful that the people who work these jobs have other options if it is not their prefered line of work, I'm sure you've seen monster before.


honestly, i think i'd rather have that option than not have it.

the option of prostituting my body legally because i'm not interested in any other work or just out of plain bad luck.


Posted by Shakka on Mar-14-2006 21:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0915
one needs money to live, it is easy to picture a situation where nobody except a pimp will hire a woman, or a person who desparetely needs money who has no other way to get it enter the sex trade.

just saying you have to be careful that the people who work these jobs have other options if it is not their prefered line of work, I'm sure you've seen monster before.


The woman still has a choice, no? I don't buy this "being forced" argument. Perhaps "path of least resistance" is a more appropriate term (subjective as it is), but nobody is forcing a woman to become a prostitute.


Posted by occrider on Mar-14-2006 22:02:

Oh let me rephrase my prior statement ... state governments have no business legislating morality. The federal government doesn't have jurisdiction in this issue as evidenced by the fine state of Nevada. Anyone up for a trip to the bunny ranch?


Posted by trancaholic on Mar-14-2006 22:22:

I'm of course pro prostitution. In Denmark you cannot join a union as a prostitute, so they're all self-employed. Brothels are usually run by having either the prostitute hire her room or have customers pay a fee to use the room.

Anyway, the point about being in favor of free prostitions "but only as long as the girls are not forced", seems to be a non-sequitur. Being *forced* into a job is terrible and should be condemned no matter the nature of the job.


Posted by trancaholic on Mar-14-2006 22:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
The woman still has a choice, no? I don't buy this "being forced" argument. Perhaps "path of least resistance" is a more appropriate term (subjective as it is), but nobody is forcing a woman to become a prostitute.

Yesterday in a news broadcast in Denmark, a reporter documenting his feat by a hidden camera, bought himself a sex slave in Romania. Price tag was about $2000, and he was free to take the girl with him.
Apparently the local organized crime units threaten the girls with severe consequences to their families if they don't accept their fate. I'd say that that borderlines "forcing a woman to be a prostitute", but I guess it all depends on how you feel about your family.


Posted by HardTranceProd on Mar-14-2006 22:34:

BTW while we're on the subject of prostitution. Does anyone know what happened in earlier times when there were no contraceptives and prostitutes had real sex with their customers? Say, a few centuries ago? Were there a lot of births from prostitution?


Posted by Shakka on Mar-14-2006 23:40:

quote:
Originally posted by HardTranceProd
BTW while we're on the subject of prostitution. Does anyone know what happened in earlier times when there were no contraceptives and prostitutes had real sex with their customers? Say, a few centuries ago? Were there a lot of births from prostitution?



1) There was science before Latex. (lambskin)
2) There are many forms of contraception. (diaphram, birth control pills, sponge, vasectomy/historectomy, etc)
3) There are even some improvisational forms of contraception/birth control. (withdrawal)

But to answer your question, I don't know. We have heard of plenty of historical figures that were whorespawn (sorry, the word just had a ring to it). Of course, in the same breath, the average life expectancy was also much lower. Potentially mitigating factors?


Posted by Shakka on Mar-14-2006 23:47:

quote:
Originally posted by trancaholic
Yesterday in a news broadcast in Denmark, a reporter documenting his feat by a hidden camera, bought himself a sex slave in Romania. Price tag was about $2000, and he was free to take the girl with him.
Apparently the local organized crime units threaten the girls with severe consequences to their families if they don't accept their fate. I'd say that that borderlines "forcing a woman to be a prostitute", but I guess it all depends on how you feel about your family.


Well--Romania vs. USA. Sorry--by default I assume I'm talking about the U.S., without really considering places I've never lived in. But in a very broad, general sense (local/regional consequences aside), there is nothing wrong with prostitution being legal. I mean I've been to strip clubs hundreds of times and it's really no different. I mean the gray area is so small. Not to mention some "special" massage parlours around town. Prostitution clearly serves a niche (whether you agree with it or not) and doesn't aim to harm individuals. But like I said, having some regulations/guidelines to follow wouldn't hurt given that you're talking about people having multiples of multiple partners, exponentially increasing the risk of STD. Given the increased risk, the industry would certainly need some regulations.


Posted by Lepanto on Mar-15-2006 00:03:

quote:
Originally posted by HardTranceProd
From a girl's point of view it's weird, but females will never understand certain needs that guys have.


Speak for yourself. Maybe if you didn't play WoW all your life you wouldn't need a prostitute.

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
The woman still has a choice, no? I don't buy this "being forced" argument. Perhaps "path of least resistance" is a more appropriate term (subjective as it is), but nobody is forcing a woman to become a prostitute.


What makes you think they can't be forced into it?


Posted by Kapedano on Mar-15-2006 01:35:

Prostitution? Great, Its not like we dont have enough sluts nowdays.


Posted by Lepanto on Mar-15-2006 01:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Kapedan
Prostitution? Great, Its not like we dont have enough sluts nowdays.


haha. i hate those 40 year old fucks who go out with the 17 year old girls. fucking sick, man.


Posted by Kapedano on Mar-15-2006 01:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Lepanto
haha. i hate those 40 year old fucks who go out with the 17 year old girls. fucking sick, man.


I know man, Im not againts it, its just fucking lame to get some slut to have sex with u, i know there are plenty of sickos out there, but like Shakka brought up the point of STDs and stuff..thats where you kind of cross the line imo.


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