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Allen & Heat xzone 62 vs. Pioneer DJM600.Which to Choose?
Any tips about what to choose Allen & Heat xzone 62 or Pioneer DJM600??
I would like to get you opinion about theese mixers.
What is good/bad with them?
Thanx
iv seen em both.. used a 600, never used the 62 but i read allot about em both while researching mixers.. i wound up getting a vestax due to $$ issues...
but anyway the main difference is how you mix. the style and the type of music..
the 62 has a 4 channel EQ which is cool because it gives you a wider mixing ability, but you won't notice this at a amateur level. other than that things are more or less normal.. i think you can custom change the fader, if i remember correctly (i very well may not), but most trance mixers don't use a fader anyhow. i'm not sure what other diff advantages it has, but i know its a quality mixer
the 600 is 3 channel.. and its main advantages are it has effects, bpm, and a 3 select fader.. like i said fader doesn't matter much.. bpm is kindof dumb cuz it only has 1 bpm so u can't see the two records bpm's side by side.. but you shouldn't be using a bpm anyway. the effects are kinda cool, and its nice that they are built in. I don't like effects tho, cuz i don't think they are very musical. but i know house djs like it allot..
basicly, if ur an amateur (as most of us are =) and your looking for a good mixer with bpm to help you out at times, and effects to screw around with go for the 600. otherwise i'd say get the 62 cuz when you get experienced at mixing i think the 4 channels will help you out even more, and the mixer itself is damn quality.
personally i'd say go for the 62, but i don't like effects or bpm or any of that.
dazzed
very well done dazzed, but you forgot to mention that the Xone has 1 effect also. and while it is only 1 effect, it kills anything Ive heard from a 600. Its the VCF filter, and its got a hi pass, loss pass and notch pass(I think thats what its called) these are soo musical and drive me wild, it sounds like they have em in the song too many times by kai tracid. sooo nice.
the A&H also has better construction, vertically mounted boards as opposed to horizontal in the 600(so that any spillage runs off) and the sound quality from an A&H is much better than from a 600. A&H makes some of the finest audio equip in the world. This is for sure one of em
k... mostly said it all..
im gonna get the 600 mixer from pioneer.. altough im not going to use that crap effects & bpm..
its 4 channels not 3...
the allen & heath os a very strong build mixer with one of the best qualitys out there.. its for more expirenced DJs as said b4.. i saw gielen use the 62 in TE 2001.. if u want a strong mixer that will last u go with the 62
if u feel like a starting out with a nice small mixer mixer i'd go with the pcv - 175 from vestax
saves u money & its worth it
pioneer 600 is a gr8 mixer 2 dont get me wrong.. its simple with eq for each channel
looks good & has effects
its really up 2
If i had the money i'd get the 62..
but the prices are the thing.
pioneer djm600 - about 1000+
vestax pcv275 - 400 or so (my mixer)
a&h - xone 62 1200 or so...
honestly if you are in the 1grand price range already i'd get the 62.. but also when spending that much money keep in mind don't blow it cuz your gonna need to spend allot on records.. i'd say after 1 year of mixing, of which 7 months i really actually mixed (first 5 months i didnt take it seriously).
i spent 1 grand on tables, 250 on a shitty djm-300, 400 on an effects box, 300 on needles. i realized the effects were useless (esp since i couldn't beat match yet!) so i sold that and the mixer and got a vestax, and a coffin so i could bring it all to school. so i'v spent about 2 grand on my setup.. then i've spent id say 3-4 grand already on records!!! but i'm pretty damn broke right now
just remember u need $$ for records too!
gemini mixers own.... .. . 
j/k
although i dont think ppl will agree with me
i just watched 2-3 clips
tiesto live @ dance valley
pvd live @ love parade
&
gielen live @ te 2001
both tiesto & pvd used the pioneer djm 600
& gielen used the allen & heath 62
i think more clubs, etc.. use Pioneer
i think allen & heath is 4 big events such as te , innercity
etc..
Pioneer DJM-600 Mixer is a good choice
Yet A&H Are well known as the best mixers in the world.
I Suggest you start off with the Vestax PCV-175 mixer, I Have it.
It has a full equalizer for each channel, fully adjustable headphone monitoring system,
it looks great and it produces massive sound with great quality.
DJ-Energy:
Its definitley not "A nice small mixer"
Its Large and it also has entries for effects processors.
All and all the PCV-175 is well worth the money, it costs a little less than 600 dollars here in israel.
ok, I live in the netherlands, en gielen used a djm600 at trance energy september 2001 (i was there), and at trance energy they used a Dateq LPM 7.3 (i have this baby 2, the only problem for some people me be the price, $1400,-) but i think u can mix with both mixers....
Greetz Maarten
personally i think its the best bet to buy a quality but simple mixer, then just get some practice here and there on the special features of other mixes..
that way if u wind up with an american dj 2 channel mixer u can still tear things up (ahahahaaaa).
and if u get a chance to use a nice mixer you can still tear things up.. im just sayin u don't wanna rely on kill switches or an effect, then some day wind up w/o it...
dazzzzzzzzzzzed
What about the A&H Xone:32?
Anybody used it?
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| Originally posted by Scorchio Pioneer DJM-600 Mixer is a good choice Yet A&H Are well known as the best mixers in the world. I Suggest you start off with the Vestax PCV-175 mixer, I Have it. It has a full equalizer for each channel, fully adjustable headphone monitoring system, it looks great and it produces massive sound with great quality. DJ-Energy: Its definitley not "A nice small mixer" Its Large and it also has entries for effects processors. All and all the PCV-175 is well worth the money, it costs a little less than 600 dollars here in israel. |
I myself have the Pioneer DJM600 and i absolutely love it....its been my dream mixer for as long as i can remember 
I personally would recommend it
I the faders are clean the EQs are incredible.........you will not be sorry if you purchase this mixer
As for the A&H mixer.....i have never personally used it...it looks pretty nice........i think i might end up buying one so I can have both the 600 & 62 on different setups
Ive heard excellent things about both mixers and im sure you'll make the right decision.
>>>>>One other thing.......i would suggest that you go to the store and play around with both of them. Which ever you feel most comfortable with you should go for.
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| Originally posted by DJ LIQUID I myself have the Pioneer DJM600 and i absolutely love it....its been my dream mixer for as long as i can remember I personally would recommend it I the faders are clean the EQs are incredible.........you will not be sorry if you purchase this mixer As for the A&H mixer.....i have never personally used it...it looks pretty nice........i think i might end up buying one so I can have both the 600 & 62 on different setups Ive heard excellent things about both mixers and im sure you'll make the right decision. >>>>>One other thing.......i would suggest that you go to the store and play around with both of them. Which ever you feel most comfortable with you should go for. |
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| Originally posted by DJ-Energy although i dont think ppl will agree with me i just watched 2-3 clips tiesto live @ dance valley pvd live @ love parade & gielen live @ te 2001 both tiesto & pvd used the pioneer djm 600 & gielen used the allen & heath 62 i think more clubs, etc.. use Pioneer i think allen & heath is 4 big events such as te , innercity etc.. |
, they play whatever they are provided with. if, say, paul van dyk would play at trance energy after gielen, he would have used 62s too.
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| Originally posted by DJ-Energy *cough*rich basterd*cough* |
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| Originally posted by DJ-Energy *cough*rich basterd*cough* |
when are u buying ur equip. Yuvie ?
DJMs have plenty of inputs...
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| many times using even a 4-channel mixer at the club is not an option, cause you got (almost always) three decks, three cdplayers, a sampler, a dat-recorder, a line for mic and so on... |
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| Two MIC inputs: MAIN located on top panel, SUB on rear panel. Other inputs: 2 CD, 2 LINE, 3 PHONO. |
I own a Xone:62 and well, lemme say I really feel limited when spinning on DJM's. The sound quality from the Xone is way better, ok you don't get integrated BPM counters (uhm, ok don't need those no problem), sampler or fx (except the awesome VCF filter of course, this filter is just a blast to work with ). I'm more of a guy that wants absolute quality of every component (even if I have to work my ass off to be able to afford it). So if I want a sampler or an effector, I'll get them apart.
The 4 band EQ is just awesome to work with, and believe me, once you used that, you won't want to return to the "old fashioned" 3band.
Don't get me wrong, the DJM's are nice machines, very nice even. They have everything in one, and are very easy to handle. This is probably the reason they're so widely used in clubs and gigs. Be aware that the Xones aren't around for that long. They already got the reputation of belonging to the best sounding mixers of the world, but as you may know most companies (renting, shops, clubs) don't change their gear just for that. But some clubs are getting Xones in now (Fuse just to name one, they used Rodec MX180mkII's for years).
Anyway you can't really go wrong with either one of those mixers, but for me the Xone:62 tops all of the rest. No compromise, pure quality.
PS : I believe that if you use the send/return connections on the DJM600 the fx/sampler gets overridden.
i just got back from my friend's house and we were playing w/ his brand spankin' new djm600 and let me tell you that it fucking kicks ass!.. i can't speak for the 62 because i've never used it but IMO you can't go wrong w/ the djm600.. its a beautiful mixer, the effects kick ass, i don't even look at the bpm counter becuase it seems to fluctuate and although it probably gives you a ballpark figure of the bpm's, i don't think it is perfectly accurate.. but its really easy to use (as far as effects are concerned) and all of the components are built well, the knobs turn super-smooth and the x-fader and volume controls feel really comfortable and smooth too.. from my experience w/ it, i feel like i have total control, and i have never used a mixer that had effects on it before tonight and maybe through the first song i was kinda overwhelmed but i got used to it quickly.. you will have total fun w/ the djm600.. but again i can't say anything about the 62 because i've never used it.
Btw, forgot to tell. At first the pre-EQ cue system (you don't hear the effect of the EQ in your phones) felt strange to me. But now if I look back on it, I feel it's easier to set my initial EQ settings to keep a better continuity when mixing the tunes in.
I have 2 questions...What do the VCF filters do on the Xone 62 mixer?
2. My fav effect on the djm 600 is flanger! i dont know why but that effect is soo cool sounding. Is there like an effects machines that arent to expensive, the pioneer efx 500 is alot i dont need all thoise effects anyway but is there any effects module that just has flanger on it? like a flanger module that is like 50 bux?
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| Originally posted by magicsushi What about the A&H Xone:32? Anybody used it? |
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