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Posted by richg101 on Mar-16-2006 02:05:

is this possible???

i was thinking..

how good would it be if you had to post at least 20 replies to other peoples threads before you were allowed to post your own threads..

it would sort the serious people out from the others..

i have no problem replying to others tracks but feel so many people dont get the replies they deserve..

i just think it would section out the spammers and make the producers forum so much more productive... the newbs have to earn the right to post their tracks..

and then once you have done that then you have to keep up to date by replying to at least 2 threads before each of your new tracks/ topics are posted..

is this possible?

what you guys think?


Posted by Subtle on Mar-16-2006 02:12:

good idea.. but it wouldnt work..

people can just say "nice track" without even heard the track..

its not about how *many* replies u get, but how useful the replies u get are for you


Posted by richg101 on Mar-16-2006 02:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
good idea.. but it wouldnt work..

people can just say "nice track" without even heard the track..

its not about how *many* replies u get, but how useful the replies u get are for you
.

i know, but it would be nice to hear a good/bad comment..

if i make a track it is nice to know it is being enjoyed.

id be more inclined to make them 320k full versions if i knew people would say they loved it/hated it.. it kinda makes it worth it..

this would ween out the annnoying leachers that waste banwidth LOL


Posted by kopi_luwak on Mar-16-2006 03:12:

A better idea imo would be to do a new section for users with less than 6 months and 200 replys, once they have 6 months and 200 then they can get into the producers section so we would have serious users though.
Kopi =o.


Posted by Xenocreator_PG_ on Mar-16-2006 03:45:

Re: is this possible???

quote:
Originally posted by richg101
and then once you have done that then you have to keep up to date by replying to at least 2 threads before each of your new tracks/ topics are posted..

is this possible?


I would love this to be a general rule in this forum. For every thread posted 3 reviews have to be carried out, though there is no way to enforce this rule. As Subtle has stated, it would be easily bypassed. New tits will continually join & spam us without bothering to acknowledge the rules anyway.

quote:
Originally posted by kopi_luwak
A better idea imo would be to do a new section for users with less than 6 months and 200 replys, once they have 6 months and 200 then they can get into the producers section so we would have serious users though.
Kopi =o.


That could possibly work.

I would be good if TITs had no thread create option; they can post replies in threads but can not start a new one until the 3 month probationary period is over. Hopefully in that time they might have picked up on the "Eye for an eye' concept.


Posted by kopi_luwak on Mar-16-2006 03:52:

Re: Re: is this possible???

quote:
Originally posted by Xenocreator_PG_
I would love this to be a general rule in this forum. For every thread posted 3 reviews have to be carried out, though there is no way to enforce this rule. As Subtle has stated, it would be easily bypassed. New tits will continually join & spam us without bothering to acknowledge the rules anyway.



That could possibly work.

I would be good if TITs had no thread create option; they can post replies in threads but can not start a new one until the 3 month probationary period is over. Hopefully in that time they might have picked up on the "Eye for an eye' concept.

That's sounds pretty cool also.
Kopi =o.


Posted by Mr Rogers on Mar-16-2006 03:59:

quote:
Originally posted by kopi_luwak
A better idea imo would be to do a new section for users with less than 6 months and 200 replys, once they have 6 months and 200 then they can get into the producers section so we would have serious users though.
Kopi =o.


i liken this idea


Posted by funkysouls on Mar-16-2006 06:15:

Re: Re: is this possible???

quote:
Originally posted by Xenocreator_PG_
I would love this to be a general rule in this forum. For every thread posted 3 reviews have to be carried out, though there is no way to enforce this rule. As Subtle has stated, it would be easily bypassed. New tits will continually join & spam us without bothering to acknowledge the rules anyway.



That could possibly work.

I would be good if TITs had no thread create option; they can post replies in threads but can not start a new one until the 3 month probationary period is over. Hopefully in that time they might have picked up on the "Eye for an eye' concept.


nice.
this will definately lead to an increase in number of comments.


Posted by richg101 on Mar-16-2006 10:21:

nice ideas guys

the new forum section sounds good kopi!


Posted by sterilis on Mar-16-2006 12:26:

I like this idea. Good thread!


Posted by nils on Mar-16-2006 13:00:

quote:
Originally posted by kopi_luwak
A better idea imo would be to do a new section for users with less than 6 months and 200 replys, once they have 6 months and 200 then they can get into the producers section so we would have serious users though.
Kopi =o.


awesome


Posted by richg101 on Mar-16-2006 13:09:

maybe not 6 months.. maybe a shorter time scale.. make it more about how many replies the member has made before they can post their own threads..

the best would be if a new reply only showed up on your thread once you had replied to a randomly selected thread from that week.. would be complex but would force the 'eye for an eye' system... and i bet you would get replies from people that dont usually check your stuff..


Posted by sterilis on Mar-16-2006 13:19:

the only thing is, would people buy into the idea? its good so that everyone gets replies but as someone said before. but do you really want people giving a false analysis of your work? just so they get to post. i like the constructive critcism of my work its helped me develop immensely over the months but if people are going to say my work is good when its shit or vice versa it doesnt really help.


Posted by nils on Mar-16-2006 13:31:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_kane
the only thing is, would people buy into the idea? its good so that everyone gets replies but as someone said before. but do you really want people giving a false analysis of your work? just so they get to post. i like the constructive critcism of my work its helped me develop immensely over the months but if people are going to say my work is good when its shit or vice versa it doesnt really help.


200 posts doesn't come easy, and should scare off any space leechers. rite?


Posted by Kris Xperiment on Mar-16-2006 15:02:

Talking Yay

If you guys haven't noticed, I've been posting these massive reviews to in the hopes of getting those with a talent for writing would also get inspired to truly obsever a piece of music.


Posted by sterilis on Mar-16-2006 16:31:

I think 200 is a bit to much but if it scares of leechers then its good lol


Posted by kopi_luwak on Mar-16-2006 17:25:

quote:
Originally posted by richg101
maybe not 6 months.. maybe a shorter time scale.. make it more about how many replies the member has made before they can post their own threads..

the best would be if a new reply only showed up on your thread once you had replied to a randomly selected thread from that week.. would be complex but would force the 'eye for an eye' system... and i bet you would get replies from people that dont usually check your stuff..

The issue with that would be more spam though, because we could get serial users with *yo I liked it,keep it up!* .
Kopi =O.


Posted by funkysouls on Mar-16-2006 18:08:

quote:
Originally posted by kopi_luwak
The issue with that would be more spam though, because we could get serial users with *yo I liked it,keep it up!* .
Kopi =O.


+1


Posted by richg101 on Mar-16-2006 18:54:

thats a good point kopi. the worry for me is that new and genuine producers may get put off. but i suppose if there is a newbie/probation forum i would check out the new stuff they made if it interested me.


Posted by Liquid8 on Mar-16-2006 19:27:

if new users wont be able to access the producer's forum, you'll have even less comments this way.

and after all, I don't see why you would change anything. if there's no as much comments in your topic as YOU would like to have, this means that the track wasn't attractive enough to make people want to comment. if you're trying to force them to post comment on your tunes, it will scare them, so you'll have even less.


Posted by RickyM on Mar-16-2006 19:31:

Some good ideas floatin about here.
I do like the idea of some sort of preliminary forum, so people can't just come in and spam their arses off.
Good thread richy, you aren't as stupid as your scarf looks


Posted by sterilis on Mar-16-2006 19:42:

hehe


Posted by kopi_luwak on Mar-16-2006 19:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Liquid8
if new users wont be able to access the producer's forum, you'll have even less comments this way.

and after all, I don't see why you would change anything. if there's no as much comments in your topic as YOU would like to have, this means that the track wasn't attractive enough to make people want to comment. if you're trying to force them to post comment on your tunes, it will scare them, so you'll have even less.

If less is quality reviews then is a good deal dont you think?
And it does not means always that because u have few review the track is not good, I have heard top notch tunes with only 2 reviews, the issue it is we are full of people downloading, I will give u an example, the other day a guy added me, he said, hi I saw ur email addy in ur signature, downloaded ur music, is cool, I said, thanks, if u liked a comment it is welcome, and he said, no, I only go to the producers section to get free music, I never comment ...
We are not pretending to force none dude, we are pretending to have serious and genuine producers commenting, and posting their music as well.
Kopi =o.


Posted by djglacial on Mar-16-2006 21:07:

I'm not sure if this was implied or not, but I think this would be a good idea if it were only applied to the music producers promotion forum.

I think new users NEED to be able to post new threads in the studio forum, or else there's little reason to join. I know when I join forums, it's usually on a whim, because I couldn't find the answer to something by searching. Then it's off to the reg screen.

New users of the forums are usually new producers anyway, so why would they need to use the promotion thread? And any pro producers that have some particular reason for joining would be fairly easily spotted anyway. I assume the mods are able to change user status on this forum (afterall, they're able to ban.)

But I think the posted limits have been a little crazy so far. I say two months, 50 posts. Spammers are not going to stick around that long posting random comments, especially if the limits are not advertised.

Whether you agree with my limits or not, I think you should keep in mind that the production studio is more for newbs, and the promotion studio is more for experienced producers. Maybe an amature song review forum could work, as then the newbs would be directed there by name alone as well, and the purpose would be more clear.

Anyway, good idea, but I think it should be limited to the Promotion Forum.

[edit]

And what's the point of newbs reviewing your track anyway... How bout not worrying about that.


Posted by Liquid8 on Mar-16-2006 22:49:

quote:
Originally posted by kopi_luwak
If less is quality reviews then is a good deal dont you think?
And it does not means always that because u have few review the track is not good, I have heard top notch tunes with only 2 reviews, the issue it is we are full of people downloading, I will give u an example, the other day a guy added me, he said, hi I saw ur email addy in ur signature, downloaded ur music, is cool, I said, thanks, if u liked a comment it is welcome, and he said, no, I only go to the producers section to get free music, I never comment ...
We are not pretending to force none dude, we are pretending to have serious and genuine producers commenting, and posting their music as well.
Kopi =o.


very interesting, but I still don't see your point. because what you're telling is that if you have less 'bad' comments, then you have more 'good' ones.. but that's just wrong that way you'll be just filtering 'useless' (in your opinion) comments, but it will never help to have more good reviews.
Now if you care about your hosting traffic, your solution won't help neither. Tranceaddict is an open forum, there's a lot of people that are not registered and who come here to check the stuff e.t.c.. and there's no question about making the forum closed for everyone besides only some group of "professional super-reviewers".
You should be aware that it's not reviewers who are coming here for you to write comments, but it's you who're coming here to get reviews. If you're not happy with the number (or quality) of comments you're receiving here, so just go to a professional reviewer and ask him to do a detailed review of the track.
I'm telling "YOU", but I mean any person which would want to make the kind of changement you proposed.


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