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Posted by Scolomon on Mar-18-2006 22:31:

are there mixers that beatmatch cdjs?

I was watching erick morillo at pacha nyc last night (helluva show)
And I spin so I know a thing or two about mixing but it did not look like erick morillo was beatmatching. It looked like he put the cd in hit a few buttons cued it up and it was perfect.
Are there mixers that can synch up your cdj 1000's so you don't have to beatmatch?
Or is he just so phenomenal in 3 seconds he has the song matched perfectly (his mixing was so tight, I have seen him 3 times and he has never come close to dropping a beat)?


Posted by sot on Mar-18-2006 22:37:

rumor has it, he has people who work for him who set every track he burns to cd-r to a certain bpm. so basically all he's doing is just putting the cd in and its in ballpark range of the track thats currenty playing, so only takes 15 secs to get it in sync.


Posted by Steven Hays on Mar-18-2006 22:40:

Or it was a prerecorded show. I've seen Oakey do it several times. It's not uncommon for a popular DJ who travels a lot. Pretty shitty, but it happens.


Posted by flavdave on Mar-18-2006 23:37:

It's not that complicated to mix with CD-J's to be honest, considering there is a bpm display. He probably has all of his cue points saved on a memory card, so all he really has to do is put in the cd in and make sure the bpm displays on the 2 CD-J's are the same.


Posted by djtroa on Mar-18-2006 23:45:

Yeah I heard some of the big star dj's have pre-recorded sets.My boy told me that he went to a rave where bad boy bill was on the decks and the police came to bust it and the mix was still scratching and he wasn't even touching the decks. That shit is funny.


Posted by Salem on Mar-19-2006 00:03:

quote:
Originally posted by djtroa
Yeah I heard some of the big star dj's have pre-recorded sets.My boy told me that he went to a rave where bad boy bill was on the decks and the police came to bust it and the mix was still scratching and he wasn't even touching the decks. That shit is funny.






LOL


yea that doesn't suprise me, that is pretty pathetic though...


Posted by all-nite-freak on Mar-19-2006 00:15:

many dj's edit tunes to suit their needs when they spin.

Bad Boy Bill has sucked the last while.
But i can say beyond a doubt that his turntable skills are superb.I have seen him mix flawlessly 15 songs in 10 minutes on vynil.Insane.The scratching you heard was probably just part of the song.There are countless tracks that have scratching in it.


Posted by Clovis on Mar-19-2006 00:22:

quote:
Originally posted by flavdave
It's not that complicated to mix with CD-J's to be honest, considering there is a bpm display. He probably has all of his cue points saved on a memory card, so all he really has to do is put in the cd in and make sure the bpm displays on the 2 CD-J's are the same.


True...the counter isnt always perfectly accurate though...


Posted by djtroa on Mar-19-2006 00:57:

quote:
Originally posted by all-nite-freak
many dj's edit tunes to suit their needs when they spin.

Bad Boy Bill has sucked the last while.
But i can say beyond a doubt that his turntable skills are superb.I have seen him mix flawlessly 15 songs in 10 minutes on vynil.Insane.The scratching you heard was probably just part of the song.There are countless tracks that have scratching in it.
Dude I know that there is tracks with scratching in it already ,but my friend told me that that wasn't the case that night. My boy is a scratch dj and he would know because he has some sick ass skillz himself. I also forgot to mention that the mix was in a transition phase, meaning a new track was coming in. I still think bad boy bill is a sick ass dj though. He's nasty on the decks.


Posted by all-nite-freak on Mar-19-2006 01:00:

he has one a few DMC competitions...

but so has Max Graham
hahahahaha


Posted by djtroa on Mar-19-2006 01:09:

I personal like dj venom though, he has sick ass scratching skills also.


Posted by Aquarian on Mar-19-2006 01:16:

quote:
Originally posted by flavdave
It's not that complicated to mix with CD-J's to be honest, considering there is a bpm display. He probably has all of his cue points saved on a memory card, so all he really has to do is put in the cd in and make sure the bpm displays on the 2 CD-J's are the same.


The BPM counter is very innacurate and doesn't always stay at the same speed. If he mixed in just a couple of seconds then chances are he had the BPMs of all the tracks pre-set.


Posted by DJ NEMESIS on Mar-19-2006 01:48:

for someone with enough skill mixing a track in like that can be done easily enough without having to have your tracks specially edited.. especially with house. I would doubt most claims of djs getting their tracks edited like that (though not Oakey because nothing would surprise me there). The better you are the more effortless you can make it look.. but also when you're mixing tracks that are within a range of say 3bpm then it's also that much easier.
One time I saw Pete Wardman play and could swear he didn't touch the pitch control while in the mix.. he'd just lean back and stare a concentrated look at the turntable and the beats would align spot on.
Now chances are Pete Wardman could have jedi mental pitch control... but there was probably a better explanation.


Posted by Spirit5 on Mar-19-2006 02:15:

Move the thread to the DJ forum, not this one. This is just for music discussion, not stuff about DJing or DJ equipment or techniques..just an FYI.


Posted by justin on Mar-19-2006 02:45:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ NEMESIS
One time I saw Pete Wardman play and could swear he didn't touch the pitch control while in the mix.. he'd just lean back and stare a concentrated look at the turntable and the beats would align spot on.
Now chances are Pete Wardman could have jedi mental pitch control... but there was probably a better explanation.


LOL... but who the hell is Pete Wardman???


Posted by Tayfoon on Mar-19-2006 03:00:

It was a preprogrammed set


Posted by harriz on Mar-19-2006 06:06:

Re: are there mixers that beatmatch cdjs?

quote:
Originally posted by Scolomon
I was watching erick morillo at pacha nyc last night (helluva show)
And I spin so I know a thing or two about mixing but it did not look like erick morillo was beatmatching. It looked like he put the cd in hit a few buttons cued it up and it was perfect.
Are there mixers that can synch up your cdj 1000's so you don't have to beatmatch?
Or is he just so phenomenal in 3 seconds he has the song matched perfectly (his mixing was so tight, I have seen him 3 times and he has never come close to dropping a beat)?


Eric morillo burns all his tracks at the same bpm so all he has to do is mix it in and they will never drift.
He is also sponsored by pioneer to use their gear so bedroom djs see him and pay
2000 $ to buy the decks.


Posted by Scolomon on Mar-19-2006 06:41:

Re: Re: are there mixers that beatmatch cdjs?

quote:
Originally posted by harriz
Eric morillo burns all his tracks at the same bpm so all he has to do is mix it in and they will never drift.
He is also sponsored by pioneer to use their gear so bedroom djs see him and pay
2000 $ to buy the decks.


i am a lot less impressed with him now


Posted by djtroa on Mar-19-2006 07:12:

Re: Re: are there mixers that beatmatch cdjs?

quote:
Originally posted by harriz
Eric morillo burns all his tracks at the same bpm so all he has to do is mix it in and they will never drift.
He is also sponsored by pioneer to use their gear so bedroom djs see him and pay
2000 $ to buy the decks.
This is why I don't like cdj but anyways you still have to do some type of cueing up of the track with the pitch anolog on cdjs. Tracks will still drift off even if it's at a fixed bpm.


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Mar-19-2006 07:26:

Re: Re: Re: are there mixers that beatmatch cdjs?

quote:
Originally posted by djtroa
Tracks will still drift off even if it's at a fixed bpm.


no they wont...


Posted by djtroa on Mar-19-2006 07:30:

Re: Re: Re: Re: are there mixers that beatmatch cdjs?

quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
no they wont...
please tell me you dj?


Posted by DJ NEMESIS on Mar-19-2006 07:54:

quote:
Originally posted by justin
LOL... but who the hell is Pete Wardman???

what's hardhouse?


Posted by spc on Mar-19-2006 07:56:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: are there mixers that beatmatch cdjs?

quote:
Originally posted by djtroa
please tell me you dj?


yeah he does dj, and is also one hell of a producer. i'm surprised you never heard of mike


Posted by Allied Nations on Mar-19-2006 08:26:

Digitally, Mike is right. If they are at EXACTLY the same bpm they will never drift.(Maybe after thousands of years or something) However, It there are two tunes pressed on vinyl at the same bpm they WILL drift because of the inevtiable innacuracies of turntables.


And honestly, as long as it isnt a pre-recorded set, who gives a fuck if he changes the bpm. thats him taking the time or paying someone to take the time to make your experience better. No fuckups behind the decks.

Shit, more djs do this than you think.

I'd do it, but im too lazy.


Posted by djtroa on Mar-19-2006 14:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
Digitally, Mike is right. If they are at EXACTLY the same bpm they will never drift.(Maybe after thousands of years or something) However, It there are two tunes pressed on vinyl at the same bpm they WILL drift because of the inevtiable innacuracies of turntables.


And honestly, as long as it isnt a pre-recorded set, who gives a fuck if he changes the bpm. thats him taking the time or paying someone to take the time to make your experience better. No fuckups behind the decks.

Shit, more djs do this than you think.

I'd do it, but im too lazy.
I'd figure that was the case if it's done digitally or on a computor, but if it on a regular cdj, that not the case.


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