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Harmonic Mixing How-To (Sasha, Armin Van Buuren mixing technique)

Dear Friends,

I have great news! My pet project, "Mixed In Key", has finally gone live! This project is unlike anything else available in the World today. What is it, you ask? Mixed In Key is a Windows� application that finds the musical key of songs for musicians and professional DJs. Mixed In Key helps users mix songs harmonically, with no clashing vocals and harmonic elements. With Mixed In Key, various songs and genres blend together seamlessly. The only way to use this technique before was to sit down with a piano, and manually key your entire music collection. Now, "Mixed In Key" is available for instant download, and can key hundreds of songs automatically.


This technique is currently used by DJ Sasha, Armin Van Buuren, Paul Van Dyk and many more!


Here are some real-world examples of what Mixed In Key can come up with:

1. Mylo "Drop The Pressure" vs. The White Stripes "Seven Nation Army" vs. Kelly Clarkson "Since U Been Gone"
2. Junior Jack "E-Samba" vs. Eric Prydz "Call On Me"
3. Kevin Lyttle "Turn Me On" vs. Madonna "La Isla Bonita"
4. Sasha "Xpander" vs. Madonna "Hung Up" vs. The Similou "All This Love"


Harmonic mixing doesn't work by itself, it still requires the DJ to beat match and read the crowd. However, it does allow the DJ to come up with some really creative and unique song combinations. This has been my pride and joy for 5 years. I heard about this technique when I went to see DJ Sasha and he illustrated that this is SIMPLY THE BEST WAY to sound amazing in a club. I hope to pass on this knowledge onto a new generation of DJs and improve club nights everywhere. I cannot tell you how many times I've heard Madonna and Kylie Minogue getting completely destroyed by mixing the two of them together without paying any attention to the harmonic elements. I hope that this program can eliminate some of that. Every DJ and musician could benefit from using this technique. Trance and House Music both have a lot of melody, so mixing in key is a perfect fit.



Here is a screenshot:





Mixed In Key Website Link:

http://www.MixedInKey.com



Also, check out the Mixed In Key Blog: http://MixedInKey.Typepad.com



Thank you for your interest!


DJ Yakov
(Founder of Mixed In Key)

TranceAddict since April 2001

Doing it by ear ftw.

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Originally posted by Clovis86 Doing it by ear ftw.

yeah i think that's a really cool thing you have nennon, but it kinda seems a little off. i mean part of what makes a dj good is his ability to choose tracks and get them flowing. seems like with this program everything about djing would be easier and made less important...

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Originally posted by Floorfiller yeah i think that's a really cool thing you have nennon, but it kinda seems a little off. i mean part of what makes a dj good is his ability to choose tracks and get them flowing. seems like with this program everything about djing would be easier and made less important...

Well the thing is, you dont ALWAYS have to mix in key for it to sound good.

$58?!

I'll key my own tracks thanks.

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Originally posted by Rebel Brown $58?! I'll key my own tracks thanks.

Anybody got a crack?

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Originally posted by Clovis86 Anybody got a crack?

searchin


and how the hell do ya come up with a price of $58

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Originally posted by Boomer187 searchin and how the hell do ya come up with a price of $58

Supply and....



.... ???

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Originally posted by Clovis86 Doing it by ear ftw.

one day your going to be able to cue a whole set and just press a button and let it all beatmatch and mix... sure doing it by hand (spinning vinyl/listening by ear) may be original but you also might as well continue to watch all those fine BetaMax tapes and 8-Tracks....


the world evolves, you either choose to continute with it or stay behind

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Originally posted by Clovis86 Anybody got a crack?

ya know, for you to basically say "anyone have an illegal way to use this program" in the thread of the author who posted this is very disrespectful.

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Originally posted by mimikish one day your going to be able to cue a whole set and just press a button and let it all beatmatch and mix... sure doing it by hand (spinning vinyl/listening by ear) may be original but you also might as well continue to watch all those fine BetaMax tapes and 8-Tracks.... the world evolves, you either choose to continute with it or stay behind ya know, for you to basically say "anyone have an illegal way to use this program" in the thread of the author who posted this is very disrespectful.

NICE ONE BRUV!

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Originally posted by Clovis86 NICE ONE BRUV!

looks like you were sitting around waiting for a reply so you could try and bash

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Originally posted by Floorfiller seems like with this program everything about djing would be easier and made less important...

The DJ is important?

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Originally posted by mimikish looks like you were sitting around waiting for a reply so you could try and bash

Of course.

As for the lesson on "evolving"...like said, you do not ALWAYS have to mix in key for it to sound good. By using a program like that, it will encourage people to ALWAYS mix in key, which IMO is limiting.

God forbid we have computers mix everything and completely remove the human touch just because it will be "technically" perfect.

I get shit on this forum for using ableton to mix, and I get shit for harmonically mixing using my ears instead of a program...ffs man I dunno what to do anymore.




And the crack comment was clearly a joke. "woosh" would be the correct term here I think.

i think everyone in this discussion that is against making djing easier shoudl read BF Skinners book beyond freedom and dignity. great read very relevant.

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Originally posted by Boomer187 i think everyone in this discussion that is against making djing easier shoudl read BF Skinners book beyond freedom and dignity. great read very relevant.

Havnt read that, but imo, its not the tool, its how you use it, and that applies for everything.

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Originally posted by Clovis86 Havnt read that, but imo, its not the tool, its how you use it, and that applies for everything.

w3rd, the book kinda says how pride handicaps us.

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Originally posted by Boomer187 w3rd, the book kinda says how pride handicaps us.

I will have to check it out Mr. Boomar

Dear Boomer187,

The price of $58 includes free updates for this version of the product. The algorithm was developed by a wonderful German guy named Alexander Lerch. His work is currently being used in Ableton Live!, Steinberg and Native Instruments. He wrote one of the best keying algorithms available on the market. I wanted to have the highest quality analysis, so I licensed the algorithm from him. I also spent 5 months of my own time developing this product and testing it during live DJ gigs.


Take care,

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Originally posted by Clovis86 And the crack comment was clearly a joke. "woosh" would be the correct term here I think.

a dj is their own person and can/will decide how they want to spin, end of story. i believe dj's who solely stick to vinyl, good for them. those who want to beatmatch, good for them also. at the end of the night its just music. for anyone to tell another person how they should be dj'ing its just like someone coming in and telling you how to do your job.

as for the "joke", if i was the author of the program and i came back and even saw any type of "joke" towards something i worked my ass off for. trust me if possible, i'd be takin' ya to court call me whatever you'd like i dont care.

Fuck $58 right in the arse. My ears can do this for free.

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Originally posted by mimikish as for the "joke", if i was the author of the program and i came back and even saw any type of "joke" towards something i worked my ass off for. trust me if possible, i'd be takin' ya to court call me whatever you'd like i dont care.

Good luck on him tryin to find people to pay 58$ for something we can do with our ears.

There is also this...

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Its for FREE as well.

There are people who uses "Mixed in Key" and similar apps...









































and there are DJs

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Originally posted by s3nate There is also this... [[ LINK REMOVED ]] Its for FREE as well.

mixshare is usually off.

MixMeister is fast and very accurate :P

Dear All,

Here are some Frequently Asked Questions from the forums:


1. What does Mixed In Key do if, say a track ends up halfway between a and b flat, does it "snap" it to the nearest key?

Mixed In Key works by finding the most common key in a song. For example, if 80% of the song is A-minor and 20% is C-major (relative major key), Mixed In Key will report the overall key as A-minor.

However, if you were asking about what happens when the song is out-of-key, I have a different answer for you. For example, if the song is between A and B-Flat, Mixed In Key will say that the song is out-of-key. The algorithm does this now, but we're going through some growing pains and this information not yet shown in the results panel. However, you can see that this feature exists by looking at the XML file. This file can be viewed with Internet Explorer or Notepad. We've had several requests for this feature and it will be added in a future update. Mixed In Key can automatically detect when a new version is available and update the software (while keeping your existing Key Collection intact). In fact, if you ever choose to uninstall this software, you will not lose your Key Collection.


2. Could you just queue loads of files and analyze them all at once?

Yes, this was the main purpose of the application. You can add as many WAV and MP3 files as you like. You can also queue entire Folders with one click. For example, I selected my C:\Music\ folder at lunchtime and came back two hours later. Mixed In Key processed 600 songs in various subfolders (I usually organize my collection by time of purchase and key)


3. What if a tune changes key halfway through the song? Does Mixed In Key give you the keys throughout the duration of the tune?

Mixed In Key can detect the best key for different parts of the song. For example, my personal favorite is 3 parts -- Beginning, Middle and End of the song. This really helps me with scenarios where the key changes after the break. However, the default installation is configured to analyze the entire song and display one key. We can easily change this in a free update, we're currently working on the best way to display N-number of keys for every song. Our application design is very clean, and we like to keep it that way. There is no need for clutter -- Mixed In Key does one job, and it does it very well.

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