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No porn under Labour govt.

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No pr0n under Labor Liam Getreu In a monumental backflip, Opposition leader Kim Beazley today announced that if elected, Labor would force ISPs to filter violent or sexual graphic content from internet connections. The plan is a polar reversal on Labor's previous policy. Former shadow minister for IT & Telecommunications, Kate Lundy, previously told Whirlpool: "Labor believes the Report's recommendation to increase internet regulation by forcing all Australian internet service providers (ISPs) to filter all of their content is unworkable. The cost this would place on ISPs would be prohibitive, and internet speeds would be significantly reduced." Under the new plan, individual subscribers would be able to "opt-in" to access unrestricted content if they wanted to. Kim Beazley says it is "too hard" for average families to have to figure out how to install and configure internet filtering software on home PCs. He claims a similar system already operates in parts of Europe, including the UK. The plan follows other ill-fated efforts by political parties, including one from Labor to provide free content blockers to Australian households and one from the conservative party Family First before the last election. Efforts to rid the Australian internet of porn have generally been costly but ineffective political exercises. In 2003, former Minister for Communications, Information Technology and the Arts Senator Richard Alston distributed more than 32,000 fridge magnets to callers concerned about Internet porn.

http://whirlpool.net.au/article.cfm/1608?show=replies

News article from Australian IT also shown here

Anyway, discussion. What does everyone think?

IMO, this is what happens when the previous generation gets out of touch with technology and society. Has our society become this stifled that parents cant, god forbid, discuss pornography and sex with their children? Shits me up the wall, this is becoming like China internet shield.

Setting aside the merits of the idea (or lack thereof), implementing it would be impossible. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

It's frustrating that this country's federal Labor party keeps doing such silly voter-alienating things. Regardless of which party you support, having two competitive parties keeps things on a more even keel. Watching one party flop around like a fish on a pier only gives the other that much more freedom to do as they like without fear of losing popular support.

I think they underestimate just how many people are actually closet porn junkies .. appealing to the general public by saying they want to implement something like this to fish for votes will get them nowhere.

yeah, more stupid bollocks from the labor party.

i think its shit to punish everyone coz parents are too stupid/lazy/incompetent to supervise their children\'s surfing habits. since when did the government\'s responsibility become baby sitting?

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Originally posted by Nyquist_Theorem Setting aside the merits of the idea (or lack thereof), implementing it would be impossible. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

i wouldn't say that, look at commie countries controlling access...

that said, they can block it to a certain degree, but there'd be ways around it.

is it really feasable though? no.... major headache for ips's

and i'm guessing, if they were wanting to introduce it, it'd be like for all of australia except the ACT... *rollseyes*

China does it but whats the rate of pay there compared to Australia, huge difference, it would be a massive blow out in all affected areas of IT as people would be constantly moving files around in different ways... they should do it the other way around, if people want to filter porn or violent content then sign up with a ISP which supports it..

i'm guessing the way it would be done is for isp's to just block off particular ip's, i dont see monitoring individual packets as feasable. hello proxy!

ofcourse, this will probably just lead to future censorship and control - today it's introducing some control to "protect our children", etc etc. Then tomorrow, fist of stalin! "internet is bad... no free speech for yuo".

In soviet russia, porn watches you.



*shrugs*
Dunno why they're trying at all, considering past history with such an attempt, and its non-feasibility

You know what, we should just ban water so people stop drowning in it

if the general public knew about these plans by Labour....

there was a comment on that article that raises the issue of what is considered pornography, and who makes those decisions
(Ministry of sound, anyone?)

This is pretty extreme, its really just an example of an attempt to get votes, its pretty nuts but then again so is john howard. Theres no middle ground really.

I also didnt realise you can filter broadband, over such a wide audience i mean.

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Originally posted by Dj_Es-Dva This is pretty extreme, its really just an example of an attempt to get votes.

I woulda thought this would lose votes.
Certainly has lost mine

Keyword i used was "attempt" Its sad they do this at a time when they should be hounding the Liberal's about AWB and all that political rubbish.

Hopefully this doesnt include the site where i get to see Philby hunt the monthly milf and spray them with his molten magma.

I don't really think they can, I mean, I think it is controlled enough. If you want porn you look for it; it's a choice and I don't think any goverment has a right to take it away, sure you can regulate it in the sense of classifaction, like they do with TV. But I don't think they should deny it. I don't look at porn; promise

What about the porn companies!?!? think of the money they will lose!

To be honest I think labour are up shit creek without a paddle and it's not going to get better, if Kim Beazley loses this next election, which is highly likely labour have to have a leader change ( beazley has lost three times ).

I think the labour party have a few things they should be looking at at the moment rather than banning porn.


Anyway my 2 cents.

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Originally posted by Simon00 Hopefully this doesnt include the site where i get to see Philby hunt the monthly milf and spray them with his molten magma.

no i think www.eruptionsfrommtphil.com is safe

This issue is discussed all the time and has been thrown out there various times by many different people/organisations. I mean a while back there was a discussion from the iana i beleve to create a .xxx domain (i.e. www.hotslutttzz.xxx) ... this was rejected because it was a form of acceptance of porn on the internet...(yes I am serious) Maybe instead of trying to censor everything they offer free internet monitoring or programs to block nasty sites... But this is nothing to really worry about it just won't happen.

its definately not a very easily implemented procedure but i do agree with the concept. He is not saying to restrict all Australians from accessing this material but he is just trying to make it so if people want this stuff to be accessible from their home PC they can make it so. The idea is a good one as it would mean that family PC's would be automatically unable to access porn and violent material and if we wanted to be able to access it from our own PC's we can just call our ISP and get access to it.

However it is very much a logistical nightmare and a very costly one. So politically it is yet another mistake in policy from an opposition that we desperately need to get its act together before this country becomes a policed state the way America is.

John Howards current war on terrorism is also a veil to amp up his zero tollerance war on drugs and in general our societys rights to free speech. We are in a whole world of trouble if this country doesnt rebalance as a multi party nation soon. Kim Beasley doesnt seem to be taking advantage of the AWB situation and spending his time spouting out useless policies that wont attract voters such as this one.

hahaha What a laugh @ the Labor party!

Of course Kim Beazley is out of touch with the general population's view on sex and pornography, the fat fuck probably hasn't been able to see his own cock for the last 30 years.

i don't need porn, i watch SBS

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Originally posted by tathi i don't need porn, i watch SBS

that's not porn unless you're 12.

spot on jono.

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Originally posted by tathi i don't need porn, i watch SBS

yep, lei lin chin does it for me too.

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Originally posted by jono4L its definately not a very easily implemented procedure but i do agree with the concept. He is not saying to restrict all Australians from accessing this material but he is just trying to make it so if people want this stuff to be accessible from their home PC they can make it so. The idea is a good one as it would mean that family PC's would be automatically unable to access porn and violent material and if we wanted to be able to access it from our own PC's we can just call our ISP and get access to it.

i think youve got it backward. people should have to do their own work to be added to the block. and then theres the simple question of what is classified as violent and pornographic. let parents attend to their children's surfing habits and let the govt mind their own fvcking business.

what?

no pr0n?

what the hell is pkcRAISTLIN suppost to do on weekends now?

hahaha oh really Thats why Queer as Folk was under fire for being labelled 'porn'!
hahahaha

Anyways FashionTV has got the goods for you Tathi!

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