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Posted by sterilis on Mar-23-2006 23:47:

Processor vs RAM??

Whats more important when running your sequencer the speed of your processor or the amount of RAM you have?


Posted by Centra Spike on Mar-24-2006 00:38:

In general, cpu by far.


Posted by qiushiming on Mar-24-2006 00:47:

well unless youre like me and just love those NI orchestra packs that really gobble up your ram.......


Posted by sterilis on Mar-24-2006 00:51:

can anyone recommend a good cpu then? because mine is a shitty celeron d and when running 2 sequencers its fond of crashing on me.


Posted by Final Call on Mar-24-2006 01:01:

AMD or Intel...mainly something running around 3.2 ghz could be good. I hate working on a Celeron...i have 2.4 now..and it takes forever for me to make a tune. I was usually working on a P4 3.2..and the difference is like..what the hell. My friend did a little experiment for me since we both have a Celeron. Well if you dont have money for a better CPU...atm you could attempt to get as much RAM as you can. He has a gig..and it allows him to run 6 Z3ta's at once..and then it'll start getting laggish. So maybe getting 2 gigs of ram would help for the time being. Figure out what you would want to do.


Posted by messytechie on Mar-24-2006 01:07:

u want an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800 mate

bangin

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...oduct_uid=91326


Posted by sterilis on Mar-24-2006 01:15:

cheers guys

having a look at that athlon its pricy. jsut wondering if it will fit into my motherboard, dont want to paying out that much cash if it doesnt fit. lol


Posted by Centra Spike on Mar-24-2006 01:29:

quote:
Originally posted by qiushiming
well unless youre like me and just love those NI orchestra packs that really gobble up your ram.......

Sure, if youre using gigs of samples you will need lots of ram. I assume most producers use more vst instruments and effects though.
quote:
Originally posted by dj_kane
cheers guys

having a look at that athlon its pricy. jsut wondering if it will fit into my motherboard, dont want to paying out that much cash if it doesnt fit. lol

You cant use an amd processor with your motherboard. If you havent got the money for a new system just get the fastest compatible pentium 4 you can afford. And just to let you know, a faster processor probably wont stop crashes. Updating your software and drivers is more likely to help.


Posted by messytechie on Mar-24-2006 01:31:

it doesnt matter

use it as a coaster if it doesnt fit


bangin


Posted by sterilis on Mar-24-2006 01:36:

gets more interesting lol

it crashes when too many vst's are running my celeron cant cope with all the processing pressure on it.

not the programs fault cubase and reason have been more than nice to me lol


Posted by tecnolover on Mar-24-2006 03:57:

Re: Processor vs RAM??

quote:
Originally posted by dj_kane
Whats more important when running your sequencer the speed of your processor or the amount of RAM you have?


Well just to run a sequencer doesn't require much of either. It depends on what your running inside your sequencer that matters. If it's mostly VSTi synths and plugin effects then CPU power is king. If it's samplers like Kontakt running big samples then RAM is king. So figure out what your gonna use inside your sequencer. Generally, you will want at least 1gig of RAM to be safe though.

And forget the Althon, look at an OpteronX2 instead, the socket 939 is very competitively priced and beats the AthlonX2 in all aspects.


Posted by messytechie on Mar-24-2006 10:46:

isnt opteron socket 940?


Posted by Storyteller on Mar-24-2006 10:50:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_kane
gets more interesting lol

it crashes when too many vst's are running my celeron cant cope with all the processing pressure on it.

not the programs fault cubase and reason have been more than nice to me lol


No sequencer is supposed to crash, and your processor neither. not even when your processor is pushed to it's max. I don't think more RAM of a different CPU is the right solution to your problem as mentioned before by Contra Spike.


Posted by tecnolover on Mar-24-2006 11:20:

quote:
Originally posted by messytechie
isnt opteron socket 940?


Most of the Opteron line is 940, however they also have a socket 939 line also. The 100 series. I have a 165 in my DAW. Paid 270.00 USD Only thing necessary to do with your 939 mobo is flash the BIOS.

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors...96_9240,00.html


Posted by hereander on Mar-24-2006 14:09:

both! there are those for 940 boards and since last year there are opterons for 939 aimed at the low-end servermarket. I have a dualcore opteron socket 939 and in my oppinion it is the best choice for audio given the price. audio benefits a lot from the big l2-cache of those cpu's

edit: seems like I wasn't quick enough.
I have the same cpu as tecnolover and I have overclocked it from 2x1,8 to 2x2,7 without any problems. many motherboards don't even need a bios update


Posted by Zild on Mar-24-2006 15:31:

I'm running an Athlon 3200. The socket 939 version. I overclocked it for fun but I have it running stock for production purposes and I have yet to max out my CPU, and I've tried. I think it is the cheapest chip you can find for socket 939, and it is more than adequate.


Posted by sterilis on Mar-24-2006 17:03:

quote:
Originally posted by storyteller
No sequencer is supposed to crash, and your processor neither. not even when your processor is pushed to it's max. I don't think more RAM of a different CPU is the right solution to your problem as mentioned before by Contra Spike.


well the same problem existed when i was doing a music production course. the sequencer crashed well not exactly crashed but when you try to save it, it freezes. this only happens when your running over 5 or 6 vst's. so its obviously something to do with the cpu or RAM. wish i had paid more attention in a level ICT.


Posted by T-Soma on Mar-24-2006 17:20:

So we know vstis will use up your cpu whilst samples use up ram.
Nearly everyone here has and will recomend you upgrade your cpu but just to get the most out of things, when your cpu is getting maxed out mix some tracks down to audio so that your taking some load off the cpu and putting it into the ram.



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