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Listening levels and times

Here's a list of levels in dB Vs time you can listen at that level for before doing permanet damage:
dB Time
90 - 8hrs
93 - 4Hrs
96 - 2Hrs
99 - 1hr
102 - 30Mins
110 - 5Mins
115 - 0mins before doing yourself irreversible damage.

This noted, why do we still have such loud music in clubs,etc.

This is why I bring earplugs.

Re: Listening levels and times

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Originally posted by skot_e Here's a list of levels in dB Vs time you can listen at that level for before doing permanet damage: dB Time 90 - 8hrs 93 - 4Hrs 96 - 2Hrs 99 - 1hr 102 - 30Mins 110 - 5Mins 115 - 0mins before doing yourself irreversible damage. This noted, why do we still have such loud music in clubs,etc.

Its very much a ticking time bomb like smokers!

honestly i think people better take note of how important our hearing is that we take it for granted.
hopefuly it doesnt take long for the message to get out, although who knows when our government will promote it. one thing for sure i hope is that they dont make a mock of legislation that could be a bit cruel to the people.
all they need is for people to wear earplugs

man look at our future half of us will be probably deaf, with the way people listen to their I-POD's.

thanks..

ear plugs all the way! sumthin like the er-20 are so cheap like $15.

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Originally posted by mzvirbulis Its very much a ticking time bomb like smokers! honestly i think people better take note of how important our hearing is that we take it for granted. hopefuly it doesnt take long for the message to get out, although who knows when our government will promote it. one thing for sure i hope is that they dont make a mock of legislation that could be a bit cruel to the people. all they need is for people to wear earplugs man look at our future half of us will be probably deaf, with the way people listen to their I-POD's.

Spot on mate. Govt needs to put out health warnings, just to educate people. No need for legislation. Once educated, people can make their own choice.
My lecturer put an SPL meter to a students ipod earplugs, and measured 110dB. It was cranked hard, and he wants to be a sound engineer. Lessons to be learned.

I am sure some clubs must exceed the "safe" limits.

I know at a club I wokred at once they had a limiter on it was always maxed out in the red, but they turned the auto shut off feature off.

would be interesting to see how loud the average clubs are...

Most big clubs would proabably be100 -maybe 105 at a guess. It depends on the quality of the systme they use, and who is actually running it.
The limiter in the system is actually there to prevent the signal exceeding a certain level, to protect the speakers. Turning it off would leave the sound system open to damage most likely in the HF drivers (especially if it goes into clipping)

Haha yea most club system limiters are probably there to protect the soundsystem. Since when did clubs give a fk about the long term health of its patrons.
Reading this thread i have turned down my music, kinda scary because i just love loud music.

I read these facts a while back and that's why i went out and purchased a pair of the custom made Elacin Er15 ear plugs. Fit sooo snuggly and reduce all the nasty sounds which hurt your ears. Yet you can still hear people talking no problem.

It's weird, like when you put your hands over your ears, you can hear yourself speak but then when they reply you can hear them perfectly!

Well worth the money.. (250euro where i got them, not sure if they can be had much cheaper)

nelly

There is this club near by that uses some phat Ohm speakers. They can delivery 136DB peak. And they got 10 facing the dancefloor which when your under them, you are only about 3-4 meters away

So does anyone here wear ear plugs when mixing? I've never tried such, and, therefore, I'm not even sure if it would be possible. If you have mixed using plugs, what is the experience like? Beatmatching a pain? I only mix at home, and I'll never play out at a club, so I probably don't have to worry about excessive sound, but you (plural) have managed to arouse my curiosity now.

Yeah I used them to dj with, it's weird thats for sure. the music still is muffled, despite whatevery one says. Not a lot granted, and they are a hundered times better than any crappy throw away plugs.

And they are worth every penny.

It's just a matter of getting used to them I guess, I do worry though that my mixes aint as clean as they are with plugs. i guess it reaally comes into its own in the club. When volumes are seriously loud.

I have a wicked set of plugs that I used when I worked at the airport.
I always forget them....

I think they should at least give out plugs at the door so have an option at least...some places are unbearable...

a lot of places will have them they just aint on show and most people wont want them anyways cause they are too bothered about not looking bootylicious with day glow yellow things in their ears.

afaik every venue in the country has to have earplugs in case the barstaff request them, one of those odd health and safety laws, if you request them you should get them in theory

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Originally posted by djdk one of those odd health and safety laws

Im guessing this is so if the bartender works in the club for many years and starts going def he cant sue his employee and say they sent him def. The club just turns around and tells them they could have worn earplugs and that them going def is there own problem.

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Originally posted by djdk afaik every venue in the country has to have earplugs in case the barstaff request them, one of those odd health and safety laws, if you request them you should get them in theory

I remembered The End in London posted notices saying that earplugs were available for those that requested it. But to be honest, from the countries I've lived in (America, SE Asia, Europe) it seems only the UK (and maybe Europe) has such strict noise laws.

It should be available everywhere though in my opinion. I bring my Etymotics ER-20s most of the time or else I'll hang out away from the speaker stacks as much as I can.

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Originally posted by b i n k u n I remembered The End in London posted notices saying that earplugs were available for those that requested it. But to be honest, from the countries I've lived in (America, SE Asia, Europe) it seems only the UK (and maybe Europe) has such strict noise laws. It should be available everywhere though in my opinion. I bring my Etymotics ER-20s most of the time or else I'll hang out away from the speaker stacks as much as I can.

are the Er-20 good for Djing

how is it ocmpared to the custom plug.

I want to get custom earplugs, but It's gonna take a while to get them, so I want to know how good are this ones.
A Little worried about if the -20 db would be too low to feel the music.




Thanks...

this is why you don't mix in the headphones

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Originally posted by Pinokio are the Er-20 good for Djing how is it ocmpared to the custom plug. I want to get custom earplugs, but It's gonna take a while to get them, so I want to know how good are this ones. A Little worried about if the -20 db would be too low to feel the music. Thanks...

ER20s aren't really made for DJ'ing as the ends stick out a little. If you want earplugs for DJ'ing, I'd say go for the custom ones.

I don't use the ER20s for dj'ing, just when i go out clubbing. The odd times that I do spin out, I try keep the monitors as low as possible or turn it off when I'm not mixing. I admit I do forget a lot tho.

er-20's are fine for mixing. you really have to push them in your ears far to make them less muffled. if they are nt in deep enough you get a less flat response.

if anyone knows drum and bass and dillinja/lemon d's 'valve' sound system. they give out plugs to everyone and say that they must only listen to the music for 20mins before you need to put the plugs in!

that system is very harsh to the ears.

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Originally posted by Zoso So does anyone here wear ear plugs when mixing? I've never tried such, and, therefore, I'm not even sure if it would be possible. If you have mixed using plugs, what is the experience like? Beatmatching a pain? I only mix at home, and I'll never play out at a club, so I probably don't have to worry about excessive sound, but you (plural) have managed to arouse my curiosity now.

never done it myself, but yes, mixing with earplugs is quite possible. some of the nice expensive moulded plugs are the shit apparently.

some clubs that ive been in are just ridiculous when it comes to sound. my ears for the whole day.

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