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7 shot dead at Zombie Rave afterparty in Seattle

got to be one of the weirdest things i've heard ...

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7 dead in Seattle shooting rampage Mar. 25, 2006. 08:30 PM SEATTLE (AP) � A gunman opened fire Saturday morning in a rented home in Seattle occupied by about 20 young partygoers, killing four young men and two women and critically injuring at least one other person before committing suicide when confronted by police on the steps outside. William Lowe, 59, who lives across the street, said he heard six shots fired shortly after his alarm went off at 7 a.m. local time. He looked through the peephole of his door to see people scattering from the home, some with faces painted and hair dyed � "part of their party culture," said Seattle police spokesman Rich Pruitt. One man staggered out and sat down, Lowe said, and a large man dressed in black came out carrying a shotgun across his chest. When an officer standing in the street told him to put the weapon down, he put the barrel in his mouth and fired. Officers found three dead in the living room, one at the front door and another on the porch steps. Three people were taken to Harborview Medical Center; one died and another was in extremely critical condition. Officers transported about a dozen witnesses to a precinct to interview them. The victims were in their late teens and early 20s, police said. Officers said they were not yet aware of a possible motive. "It's one of the largest crime scenes the city has ever had," Kerlikowske said. Dozens of rounds were fired in the house, where people � ranging from their early and mid-teens to mid-20s � gathered after a larger party called Better Off Undead in the Capitol Hill neighbourhood. Some of the guests were "made up to look as if they were dead," the chief said. He said the shooter, who had left the party earlier and then returned and forced his way into the house, spraypainted the word NOW in orange on the sidewalk in front of two homes and on the steps of a third in the half-block between where he had parked his black pickup and the rented house. The shooter is described as a local man in his late 20s. Kerlikowske said an officer in the neighbourhood heard the shots and arrived to find one person staggering out of the house with a gunshot wound. The officer confronted the man with a shotgun but got no further than "Drop your..." before the man turned the weapon on himself and fired, the chief said. The gunman also had a handgun, police said. Kerlikowske said the gunman mainly used a 20-gauge pistol-grip shotgun, " a weapon not designed for hunting purposes but for hunting people." The gunman was wearing bandoliers of shells for the shotgun and carrying additional clips for the handgun. In his truck, police found an assault rife and multiple "banana clips" carrying 30 bullets each. Police said they did not know if drugs or alcohol were a factor, though Kerlikowske said marijuana and alcohol were found in the house. Neighbor Cesar Clemente, 25, said he called 911 when he heard the shots. He looked outside to see people fleeing and two people huddling in the bushes. He called for them. One, a man, made it to his front entryway, shot in the arm and the abdomen. The other collapsed in the bushes. Clemente asked the man what happened. He said only: "I've been peppered." Medics quickly took him away, leaving behind a few shotgun pellets on the floor where he had been lying. Officers were making progress identifying the shooter, Nollette said. Police had his black Dodge pickup towed from the scene. Lowe said people came and left the house at all hours, often with facial piercings and elaborate makeup. "This was a destination point," he said. Nancie Thorne told the Seattle Times newspaper her 15-year-old daughter, Suzanne, was in the house when the man opened fire. She hadn't heard if the girl survived. The girl's boyfriend, Jesse Mullens, called Thorne on Saturday morning to say they had gone to the house following an electronic dance party Friday night � a "zombie rave," Thorne said. They were about to leave � Mullens was waiting outside � when the gunman barged in. Mullens told Thorne he heard a lot of gunshots. He thought Suzanne was stuck somewhere in the house with the shooter between her and the door. "It's the worst phone call a mom can get," Thorne said, crying. "She shouldn't have gone to the rave. I've never approved of those things...I just hope to God she's alive." "And if she is, she's grounded for life." Aaron Hoyle, 25, of Renton, Wash., said about five people in or near their 20s lived in the blue, two-storey bungalow with white trim and some were promoters of warehouse parties. Hoyle hadn't been to the home in about three months but heard about the shooting on the news and came to see if his friends were OK. By late morning, he still didn't know. He left. The home, which property records showed is owned by a man named D. Gregg Doyle, is just a few blocks from Miller Community Center, where Little League baseball games were underway Saturday morning.

source:
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...epath=News/News

He obviously thought they were zombies.

Only in the US of A

thats crazyness

the e made him do it. it makes you crazy.



the west coast forums are alive with this news right now too.


My condolesences to everyone involved. That's really really shitty to say the least. Toronto went through similar instances relating to bad media publicity before we lost our ability to throw proper after hours events... I hope seatles scene can recover from this effectively to convince everyone that this kind of behaviour is the rare exception.

They are gonna blame the "E" and playing video games like Resident Evil ...

So strange that they are now linking those elements to the crime. When i saw the reports on US tv, they never said anything about e, or a rave. They just said that there were 7 peopl dead at a shooting at a house party in Seattle.

Did it take our media to bring in the wrong elements to the story?

perhaps...
details could've been uncovered after? whereas the news reports may have been preliminary???

Resident evil is clearly to blame!!!

honestly thats some fucked up shit right there.

One thing cant believe this shit never happened at Halloween.

guns don't kill people, zombies kill people.

This was f@#ked up. Someone i know here in Vancouver has a roommate who just came back from that party.

Oh wow, totally filled with bias crap... looks like York's professional writing program is good for something...

The shooter is described as a local man in his late 20s.

Let's continue to slander the 20-somethings, shall we?

The gunman also had a handgun, police said. Kerlikowske said the gunman mainly used a 20-gauge pistol-grip shotgun, " a weapon not designed for hunting purposes but for hunting people."

Specifically saying he went there to hurt people...


Lowe said people came and left the house at all hours, often with facial piercings and elaborate makeup.

Generalization -- people who party and induce violence are those who have facial piercings and elaborate make-up.

"She shouldn't have gone to the rave. I've never approved of those things...I just hope to God she's alive." / "And if she is, she's grounded for life."

Angry/hurt parent who states that this was a rave (since when? It was an afterhours house party) and that she never liked them. Blantant misinformation.

The home, which property records showed is owned by a man named D. Gregg Doyle, is just a few blocks from Miller Community Center, where Little League baseball games were underway Saturday morning.

By inserting little league baseball games, the general US public would most likely now be worried about ANY house parties and think the next gunman will appear early in the morning and shoot up their little babies. In other words, instilling mroe fear into an already fear-filled country. Of course, this last sentence is also completely unrelated to the story, other than location.


And another article which makes me glad that I decided to not do journalism.

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Originally posted by supernova_girl Oh wow, totally filled with bias crap... looks like York's professional writing program is good for something... The shooter is described as a local man in his late 20s. Let's continue to slander the 20-somethings, shall we? The gunman also had a handgun, police said. Kerlikowske said the gunman mainly used a 20-gauge pistol-grip shotgun, " a weapon not designed for hunting purposes but for hunting people." Specifically saying he went there to hurt people...

um I think he did go there to hurt people... he showed up with a gun and shot them.

and the description for his age would have been there regardless of what age he was, it's kinda standard info when it comes to crime reports.

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Originally posted by nusty um I think he did go there to hurt people... he showed up with a gun and shot them. and the description for his age would have been there regardless of what age he was, it's kinda standard info when it comes to crime reports.

Yeah, but you're not really going to see many articles about 40+ people going around shooting others at parties, do you? Being young (relatively 20-something) gives a lot more sway with the media and violence. There are more crimes done by those who are young -- at least, what we continue to hear in the news.

As for hurting them, yeah, obviously he went there to hurt them. Reinstating the fact by describing what types of guns he had is kinda silly, at least IMO. Of course if he shot a bunch of people and then committed suicide he went there to hurt people. It just seems weird; I read that all the time in the Toronto Star where they rewrite the same sentence over to give the story more punch or just copy/paste it again when its on the web.

Sensationalism sells more papers.

Then again, we all knew that.

West Coast TA reaction:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=333891

People are fucked these days...

Me and my buddy were attacked on the way to the parking lot after we left guv at around 4:30am
5 polish guys were walking around punching cars and when they saw us they jumped on us and started punching us for no reason

my buddy got beaten bad but i think he broke some guys nose and they gave me few shots to the head but nothing bad

if your car got fucked up at the parking lot of lcbo let me know cuz i know what they look like, i always see them at guv or the drink

this sounds like a case for gil grissom and crew.

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Originally posted by mindspin this sounds like a case for gil grissom and crew.

even showing it in the news here in Greece...disturbing

thats so f*ing messed up...i just feel really bad for the victims and there families.

lets face it ppl....the rave scene/electronic scene does attract some pretty f*cked up ppl...whether its a gun toting lunatic at some zombie rave or a bunch of drunken retards looking to pick fights outside of guv; you cant claim 100% that we are better than so n so and that our events are safe no matter what

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Originally posted by supernova_girl Yeah, but you're not really going to see many articles about 40+ people going around shooting others at parties, do you? Being young (relatively 20-something) gives a lot more sway with the media and violence. There are more crimes done by those who are young -- at least, what we continue to hear in the news. As for hurting them, yeah, obviously he went there to hurt them. Reinstating the fact by describing what types of guns he had is kinda silly, at least IMO. Of course if he shot a bunch of people and then committed suicide he went there to hurt people. It just seems weird; I read that all the time in the Toronto Star where they rewrite the same sentence over to give the story more punch or just copy/paste it again when its on the web.

I'm sticking by my original points that the shooters age is always stated in these kinds of articles. the fact he was a 20 something has nothing to do with it. maybe we don't see as much about 40 year olds doing similar things because most people tend to get less extreme and more mature as they age past their 30's. you can see it prisons across the united states and canada... some of the most feared inmates have significantly chilled out to the point that guards can actually deal with them as they get older.

I think the comments about telling what kinds of guns he had was news worthy as well. the fact he was carrying that much ammo and weapons tells readers that this was planned and that if he had not been confronted by police he likely would have continued the shootings. personally a guy driving down my block with an ak47 in the trunk is something most people might want to know about.

As for rewritting the same sentances. this is often found in stories that make headlines. if the story is partly shown on one page and partly on a continued page they often re-instate important details for those who may just be flipping to the second page and may have missed the first bit. The web stories are usually just the text version of the paper edits, that's why they are the same.

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Originally posted by geroin People are fucked these days... Me and my buddy were attacked on the way to the parking lot after we left guv at around 4:30am 5 polish guys were walking around punching cars and when they saw us they jumped on us and started punching us for no reason my buddy got beaten bad but i think he broke some guys nose and they gave me few shots to the head but nothing bad if your car got fucked up at the parking lot of lcbo let me know cuz i know what they look like, i always see them at guv or the drink

oh geez, u ok?

and shize, we always park at LCBO parking..

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Originally posted by Spike thats so f*ing messed up...i just feel really bad for the victims and there families. lets face it ppl....the rave scene/electronic scene does attract some pretty f*cked up ppl...whether its a gun toting lunatic at some zombie rave or a bunch of drunken retards looking to pick fights outside of guv; you cant claim 100% that we are better than so n so and that our events are safe no matter what

apparently we are about on par.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=334007

we may not have the mass shootings in Toronto but we do seem to have a bunch of individual ones every year, likely totaling the same number of deaths that we saw in Seatle.

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Originally posted by geroin People are fucked these days... Me and my buddy were attacked on the way to the parking lot after we left guv at around 4:30am 5 polish guys were walking around punching cars and when they saw us they jumped on us and started punching us for no reason my buddy got beaten bad but i think he broke some guys nose and they gave me few shots to the head but nothing bad if your car got fucked up at the parking lot of lcbo let me know cuz i know what they look like, i always see them at guv or the drink

those damn Polaks giving us good Polaks a bad name

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