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Posted by E2EK1EL on Mar-26-2006 14:17:

Sound Emporium - Shooting

A man was rushed to hospital early Sunday morning after shots rang out inside a packed downtown nightclub.

The shooting happened inside the Sound Emporium, at Peter and Adelaide, just before 4am. The victim was hit and stumbled outside where he collapsed on the sidewalk.

Paramedics first treated the wounded man on the street, as officers on bicycles, on horseback and in cars responded to the call.

Investigators are appealing for witnesses, and there are many. Police say there were an estimated 700 revellers in the club when the shooting happened and many of them left without talking to detectives.

Not only did the gunman discharge his weapon despite the fact the bar was packed with people, there were also uniform police officers on pay duty at the club.

If you saw what happened or have any information that could help police, call 51 Division at (416) 808-5204 or Crime Stoppers at (416) 222-TIPS.

Police were called the scene of another shooting just hours earlier on St. Clair Avenue West.

It happened just after 2am after the victim got into a fight with another man on the busy west end strip near Dufferin.

He suffered a nasty leg wound, but he�s expected to survive. Police are still searching for a suspect.

And the province�s Special Investigations Unit (SIU) has been called in to probe a shooting that happened in Holland Landing, north of Newmarket, on Saturday.

The victim was shot several times near Highway 11 and Queensville Sideroad. He was airlifted to a Toronto hospital, but there�s still no word on his age, name, or condition.

York Regional Police haven�t said why the SIU is looking into this incident.

The SIU is called in to investigate incidents involving civilians and police that result in death or serious injury.

http://www.pulse24.com/News/Top_Sto...26-001/page.asp

Posted by Irishaddict on Mar-26-2006 14:26:

Isn't Boa where the old Sound Emporium was?

Posted by Orko on Mar-26-2006 17:47:

as soon as the cops know something like this happened, shouldnt they have closed off the club, and questioned everybody before they left?

I know this would be a severe inconvenience to people, but at least this way, they would actually be able to question people and get some key tips.

Also im sure the club would have a closed circuit tv system, no?

Posted by iLLnaDa on Mar-26-2006 17:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Irishaddict
Isn't Boa where the old Sound Emporium was?

u are correct

Posted by The Highroller on Mar-26-2006 18:12:

This is fucked up. I hope to hear more info about this.

Posted by nusty on Mar-26-2006 18:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
as soon as the cops know something like this happened, shouldnt they have closed off the club, and questioned everybody before they left?

I know this would be a severe inconvenience to people, but at least this way, they would actually be able to question people and get some key tips.

Also im sure the club would have a closed circuit tv system, no?

That's what happend to me on NYE 2004/2005 in NYC. I was at PVD and the club went into lock down and we allowed to leave one at a time as police asked for all of our id and other info as we left the club after a stabbing.

Posted by richard raiban on Mar-26-2006 18:30:

Do not confuse this event with BOA. BOA was not connected to it at all. Last night's event was a private party arranged by the owner of "Sound Emporium"

Posted by The Highroller on Mar-26-2006 18:37:

quote:
Originally posted by richard raiban
Do not confuse this event with BOA. BOA was not connected to it at all. Last night's event was a private party arranged by the owner of "Sound Emporium"

I'm glad to hear this. Still, this is a very unfortunate event for Boa. This will be sure to hurt them regardless of whether they were involved or not.

Posted by supernova_girl on Mar-26-2006 18:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
as soon as the cops know something like this happened, shouldnt they have closed off the club, and questioned everybody before they left?

I know this would be a severe inconvenience to people, but at least this way, they would actually be able to question people and get some key tips.

Also im sure the club would have a closed circuit tv system, no?

They did close it off and the Canadian SWAT team went in, apparently.

Posted by boa on Mar-26-2006 20:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Irishaddict
Isn't Boa where the old Sound Emporium was?

Boa suspended all its events at 360 adelaide street West since March 5, due to problems with the current owners.
Their imposition of some of their own security and other issues left us very uncomfortable with the way the club was run.
We are looking forward to concluding a deal that will leave us in full control.
The event of last night was under the complete control of Sound Emporium, its managers and security staff, with no Boa involvement whatsoever.

Posted by Jayx1 on Mar-26-2006 21:27:

Hip hop night??

Posted by NuERA on Mar-26-2006 21:33:

quote:
Originally posted by boa
Boa suspended all its events at 360 adelaide street West since March 5, due to problems with the current owners.
Their imposition of some of their own security and other issues left us very uncomfortable with the way the club was run.
We are looking forward to concluding a deal that will leave us in full control.
The event of last night was under the complete control of Sound Emporium, its managers and security staff, with no Boa involvement whatsoever.

well good thing the article called it sound emporium and not boa, or that really could of boned you guys...

Posted by dEsidEL on Mar-26-2006 21:51:

Re: Sound Emporium - Shooting

quote:
Originally posted by E2EK1EL
have any information that could help police

change the style of music being played .. lol

Posted by SgtFoo on Mar-26-2006 23:54:

Re: Re: Sound Emporium - Shooting

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL

change the style of music being played .. lol

heheh no kidding.

What I'm wondering is how the gun passed thru the metal detection & friskings.

As for keeping everyone there and questionning everyone before they leave.... that's not likely to work, considering the entire place (500+ people) panicked and rushed for the doors the instant the 1st shot went off. The shooter probably would have taken "precautions" if the cops sealed the place for questionning immediately.

Posted by dEsidEL on Mar-26-2006 23:59:

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quote:
Originally posted by SgtFoo
heheh no kidding.

What I'm wondering is how the gun passed thru the metal detection & friskings.

As for keeping everyone there and questionning everyone before they leave.... that's not likely to work, considering the entire place (500+ people) panicked and rushed for the doors the instant the 1st shot went off. The shooter probably would have taken "precautions" if the cops sealed the place for questionning immediately.

metal detectors won't do anything .. if someone really wants to shoot someone that nite they'll find a way, be it inside the club or outside

Posted by nusty on Mar-27-2006 00:21:

Re: Re: Sound Emporium - Shooting

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL

change the style of music being played .. lol

When I used to be a bouncer and we noticed the bar starting to get a little to rough we would request a change in tunes from the DJ. it was kind of a slack type bar where we let people get away with a lot so when it got bad we knew it was time to make some changes fast to calm things down.
St. Patty's day one year a guy was hitting on a girl. she never told the guy she had a boyfriend. boyfriend shows up and tells the guy to f off. he's pissed but walks away. 10 seconds later we get called to the area because the boyfriend when to the pool tables in the back, grabbed a pool ball and sidearmed it across the room and it split the first guys head.

It was deemed time to stop playing gangsta rap for the night.

Posted by dEsidEL on Mar-27-2006 00:27:

Re: Re: Re: Sound Emporium - Shooting

quote:
Originally posted by nusty
When I used to be a bouncer and we noticed the bar starting to get a little to rough we would request a change in tunes from the DJ. it was kind of a slack type bar where we let people get away with a lot so when it got bad we knew it was time to make some changes fast to calm things down.
St. Patty's day one year a guy was hitting on a girl. she never told the guy she had a boyfriend. boyfriend shows up and tells the guy to f off. he's pissed but walks away. 10 seconds later we get called to the area because the boyfriend when to the pool tables in the back, grabbed a pool ball and sidearmed it across the room and it split the first guys head.

It was deemed time to stop playing gangsta rap for the night.

shoulda juss played diva house instead..

"Junior... this is Madonna... cawl me in Miami."

Posted by Endlesswave on Mar-27-2006 00:40:

Re: Re: Re: Sound Emporium - Shooting

quote:
Originally posted by SgtFoo
heheh no kidding.

What I'm wondering is how the gun passed thru the metal detection & friskings.

As for keeping everyone there and questionning everyone before they leave.... that's not likely to work, considering the entire place (500+ people) panicked and rushed for the doors the instant the 1st shot went off. The shooter probably would have taken "precautions" if the cops sealed the place for questionning immediately.

the quote by "boa" above explains why. It was the current ownership and/or security, ie someone who knew security or the ownership probably had gotten in and didn't need to be frisked or searched as is the case. Hence the shooting, or it was just done outside of the club...

Posted by d!abolic on Mar-27-2006 02:38:

Posted by Orko on Mar-27-2006 02:43:

Re: Re: Re: Sound Emporium - Shooting

quote:
Originally posted by SgtFoo
heheh no kidding.

What I'm wondering is how the gun passed thru the metal detection & friskings.

As for keeping everyone there and questionning everyone before they leave.... that's not likely to work, considering the entire place (500+ people) panicked and rushed for the doors the instant the 1st shot went off. The shooter probably would have taken "precautions" if the cops sealed the place for questionning immediately.

Yeah in the panic, i could understand. I just mean, when the police arive ont he scene(which i assumed was quickly).

Posted by nusty on Mar-27-2006 02:52:

quote:
Originally posted by nusty
That's what happend to me on NYE 2004/2005 in NYC. I was at PVD and the club went into lock down and we allowed to leave one at a time as police asked for all of our id and other info as we left the club after a stabbing.

it can be done. This club easily held a few thousand.

Posted by Dark_Archonis on Mar-27-2006 04:01:

This is getting ridiculously out of hand. Stabbings and shootings in the club district are becoming way too common.

Posted by DigDeep on Mar-27-2006 14:34:

theres no way this would've happened at a regular boa event.

i dont understand why they (sound emporium) would choose NOT to use the metal detectors though?

especially for a hip-hop/reggae event fuck.

Posted by Special K on Mar-27-2006 14:39:

what happened to boa? is that place shut down already?

Posted by supernova_girl on Mar-27-2006 21:41:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Sound Emporium - Shooting

quote:
Originally posted by Endlesswave
the quote by "boa" above explains why. It was the current ownership and/or security, ie someone who knew security or the ownership probably had gotten in and didn't need to be frisked or searched as is the case. Hence the shooting, or it was just done outside of the club...

Considering SgtFoo works there, and was there when it happened, I think he has a better idea of what went on.

As for the metal detectors, they used wands, just not the airport security type -- so the person who had the gun did their best to sneak it in and managed.

As for the shooting, it happened inside the club.

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