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-- anyone got any mixing techniques for mixing trance like anjunabeats and armada?

anyone got any mixing techniques for mixing trance like anjunabeats and armada?

anyone got any good mixing techniques for trance music like anjunabeats and armada replies would be appreciated

the same way you would mix for Anjunadeep and Electronic Elements

Quite difficult to do anything special other than mix "in key" with stuff like that. So called "dead" mixing (IE intro's & outro's) seems to be the way I usualy go until I go for more Techier Trance, that's when you can start pulling out the tricks!

Besides with that kind of Trance it should flow & be smooth anyway

Be as predictable as possible.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Be as predictable as possible.

lol... so merciless


that statement could start a huge debate but i suppose its best just to save it... i have to study.... lol

very constructive post mr. mystery

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Originally posted by Thois very constructive post mr. mystery

Look - these tracks have very similar intro and outro structure between them so yes, they are predictable. Or are you seriously telling me they are odd somehow and therefore need to be mixed differently?

I find it best to wait till the breakdown of one tune, then bring in the next tune's breakdown over the current tunes one.

then you dont have to do a beat mix!

armin does this all the time so does van dky, its so simple so enjoy it. also sounds pro x 100

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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7 I find it best to wait till the breakdown of one tune, then bring in the next tune's breakdown over the current tunes one. then you dont have to do a beat mix! armin does this all the time so does van dky, its so simple so enjoy it. also sounds pro x 100

You might not like armin or PVD music, but saying that they can't beatmatch it's an ignorant statement.

it was a joke.

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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7 it was a joke.

I laughed.. even though i enjoy listening to most of the stuff those dj's play.

Secondly, i think mystery's post was spot on.

There's no other way really then bring a tune in towards the end, the lows can be cut away for a while and then if you want to keep the tempo up a bit make sure you introduce the second tune at a nice high energy part.. all depends on what kind of a mix you're looking for, smooth and slow or keep the tempo up by bringing in a harder beat etc.. (sounds like i'm talking about bringing techno in..)

I do love it when the tune coming in has a nice hard thump to it.. lol

anyway, bunch of waffle there apologies..

nelly

I now both PVD and AVB can mix. I think Van is dutch for Mixer.

LOL, or not.

Anyways, as said already. It's hard to be creative when mixing trance, since its based on flow and progression, cutting and scratching all over the shop or over use of effects sounds crap, and very rarely (if ever) works.

Unless you know the tunes really well and you know that 2 particular tracks were born for each other. Then you can ix out early, but since most trance tunes are quite busy until the very end, it has a strong tendancy to go shit side real quick.

In Sasha's trancy days, everyone raved about his mixing skill.

Look at the track times and listen to the CD's, the reasion why it's tight is cause he mixes at the very end of the tunes into tracks that go very well together.

(I know the later N.E. CD's were mixed digitally too btw :P)

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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7 I now both PVD and AVB can mix. I think Van is dutch for Mixer.

Mengpaneel is Dutch for mixer...

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Anyways, as said already. It's hard to be creative when mixing trance, since its based on flow and progression, cutting and scratching all over the shop or over use of effects sounds crap, and very rarely (if ever) works.

I have to agree. Mixing trance is all about the flow and progression. Harmonic mixing helps though.

Being creative is still possible though, it just requires a lot of knowledge of the tracks you are playing.

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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7 it was a joke.

ok
I apologize with you
didn't got it at first time.

its okay

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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7 its okay

=)

yeah man..you should just stick with the tried and true mixing with that stuff, im sure you could do some creative cutting, but you'd really have to know your tracks and make sure both of the tracks were really simliar to each other to pull that off.

I'd say keymixing is virtually essential for this sort of stuff, especially as most tracks from the labels you mention usually have melodic elements/motifs in them from the start. If you're not careful, some of those mixes can keyclash really badly which will sound awful IMO.

Learn which key your tracks are in and then take the time to work out which keys complement one another harmonically. Your mixes will sound beautiful for it.

I also think keys and harmonic play a big role when trying to mix beyond the normal limits of deadtime mixing, although I still think deadtime mixing has it's proper effect in a set when used in certain cirumstances. The majority of "trance" tracks follow a linear structure of builds and breaks, reducing the necessary "space" if you will to improvise and play upon accordingly. This is why harmonics are important, because matching keys allows one to expand further beyond the boundaries of conventional trance mixing, and incorporate a second element to allow more diverse mixing possibilities, and most importantly, patterns. While I do agree with many here saying that progression and flow are two of the most essential qualities to a proper trance set, harmonics are undoubtetly tied in with the aforementioned properties that are necessary for a killer set. With incorporation of harmonics, structural restriction plays a lesser role in determining the outcome of your transitions.

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