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Posted by blacknoizybox on Mar-26-2006 21:40:

Queston for SSL Users :-)

SSL users, please devote 1 min for a noob... (ive googled yes). Ive emailed Rane and Serato but still got no reply (( (lazy bastards ))
1. Does the SSL "scratchamp" make any purpose rather than just decoding timecoded vinyls. I mean can it function like a general USB external soundcard (like M-Audio Audiophile) and stuff. Would be great, cause if I want to produce tracks, I wont have to by a seperate ext.sound card..
and another thing..
2. how long does in takes for the timecoded vinyl and needle (say Stanton 680HP or Shure M44-7) to wear out and need replacement. i dont even have i clue cause i never used vinyl tts and related stuff...just plain trance & prog mixing and standart scratchy cueing...approx how long?? how long do they live anyways ????

thanks


Posted by b i n k u n on Mar-27-2006 01:10:

1. The SSL Scratchamp only functions to decode the timecoded vinyl. You can consider the mp4 though, which is basically an external soundcard with simple mixer functions.

http://www.rane.com/mp4.html


2. This really depends...typical needle wear before needing replacement for trance djs I would place at somewhere between 8-10 months maybe? Don't quote me on this one though. As for the serato vinyl, i'm guessing u can use that for at least a year without noticing anything. Replacements don't cost much either. People also tend to forget that SSL comes with timecoded CDs, which don't wear out for a good while unless you mishandle the CDs.


Posted by Danila on Mar-27-2006 02:00:

SSL Vinyls are 10 bucks each at my local Guitar Center. Arent that expensive online either


Posted by DannyO on Mar-27-2006 04:27:

About the needle wear, I can't see why it would be any different than regular record wear, with that said, I bought Serato the other day, and my needles (Ortofon Concordes) are OLD, I was considering replacing them , but when I loaded up Serato, they are picked up 100% perfect.

Awesome program , I'm loving it.


Posted by blacknoizybox on Mar-27-2006 04:43:

quote:
Originally posted by b i n k u n
1. The SSL Scratchamp only functions to decode the timecoded vinyl.

really bad news....


Posted by Zild on Mar-27-2006 05:07:

If you get cue burn on the records you can move the spot where the music starts past that onto a good spot of vinyl, so I imagine it takes quite awhile before the control records need to be replaced.


Posted by _-MIl0 on Mar-27-2006 13:03:

Theirs a mic input that will allow you to record audio onto your computer, its easy enough to configure it to rip a record though its not possible to record your sets using it as it stops recording the moment that you change a track.


Posted by n3lly on Mar-27-2006 14:44:

quote:
Originally posted by DannyO
About the needle wear, I can't see why it would be any different than regular record wear, with that said, I bought Serato the other day, and my needles (Ortofon Concordes) are OLD, I was considering replacing them , but when I loaded up Serato, they are picked up 100% perfect.

Awesome program , I'm loving it.


I was in a similar situation and was going to invest in some new needles but a mate asked me what kind of signal i was getting from the needles i already have, as with you i was getting 100%! So i said fuck that, why bother getting new needles.

Also, you don't have to worry about what needles you get as long as they track properly I'm nearly considering getting scratch needles next time so the tracking is improved (not that it needs to be improved) and record wear doesn't really matter at a 10'er a vinyl..

Just to back up your point

nelly


Posted by blacknoizybox on Mar-27-2006 19:37:

another thing. latency...
it says "down to 7 ms!" what PC minimum should one have to get 7 ms latency?


Posted by DannyO on Mar-27-2006 20:45:

quote:
Originally posted by blacknoizybox
another thing. latency...
it says "down to 7 ms!" what PC minimum should one have to get 7 ms latency?


I dunno if thats a restriction on PCs, but Serato can go lower than that, I have mine at 4ms on my iMac, it can probably go lower, but its fine as is.


Posted by blacknoizybox on Mar-28-2006 04:15:

quote:
Originally posted by DannyO
I dunno if thats a restriction on PCs, but Serato can go lower than that, I have mine at 4ms on my iMac, it can probably go lower, but its fine as is.

iMac laptop or home PC? anyways ive got a home PC running at 2.8 Ghz, 1 Gb RAM, 2 x 80 HDD, Gfx 5700


Posted by n3lly on Mar-28-2006 05:01:

quote:
Originally posted by blacknoizybox
iMac laptop or home PC? anyways ive got a home PC running at 2.8 Ghz, 1 Gb RAM, 2 x 80 HDD, Gfx 5700


That's more then enough! the gig of ram is nice to have as well. And your processor speed is fine as well.

Just incase you didn't think that would be enough..

nelly


Posted by DannyO on Mar-28-2006 06:54:

quote:
Originally posted by blacknoizybox
iMac laptop or home PC? anyways ive got a home PC running at 2.8 Ghz, 1 Gb RAM, 2 x 80 HDD, Gfx 5700


The iMac is a desktop, only the iBook and Powerbook (now called Macbook) are laptops.

I think with your system you will be able to go down to 3ms easy, even at 7 or even 9 I think you wouldn't notice it, unless your a damn good scratcher.


Posted by n3lly on Mar-28-2006 20:01:

quote:
Originally posted by DannyO
The iMac is a desktop, only the iBook and Powerbook (now called Macbook) are laptops.

I think with your system you will be able to go down to 3ms easy, even at 7 or even 9 I think you wouldn't notice it, unless your a damn good scratcher.


I could be wrong but i'm not sure if the macbook is taking over the powerbook. The macbook is a beast though.. Haven't seen a review on how well it works with Dj'ing software from anyone on here yet.

nelly


Posted by DFOP04 on Mar-28-2006 20:38:

sorry about going off terms of topic here, but im just wondering wether my 14" ibook g4 (256mb ram) is going to be enough to power ssl? also wheres the best/cheapest place besides ebay to get it from in the uk? any help mucho appreciated. ps thanks for the replies in this topic, some answers i was unaware of.


max


Posted by DannyO on Mar-28-2006 20:48:

quote:
Originally posted by DFOP04
sorry about going off terms of topic here, but im just wondering wether my 14" ibook g4 (256mb ram) is going to be enough to power ssl? also wheres the best/cheapest place besides ebay to get it from in the uk? any help mucho appreciated. ps thanks for the replies in this topic, some answers i was unaware of.


max


I dunno where you can get it from, but I think your iBook can run it easily, you might want to add some more ram though.

N3lly, the Macbook is the Intel CPU replacement for the G4 Powerbook, so far the macbook is lightning fast but alot of apps are still running in emulation (rosetta), native running apps just fly, the beta version of Ableton for it (running Native) is supposed to be incredible, CPU usage is extremely low.


Posted by DFOP04 on Mar-28-2006 21:22:

quote:
Originally posted by DannyO
I dunno where you can get it from, but I think your iBook can run it easily, you might want to add some more ram though.

N3lly, the Macbook is the Intel CPU replacement for the G4 Powerbook, so far the macbook is lightning fast but alot of apps are still running in emulation (rosetta), native running apps just fly, the beta version of Ableton for it (running Native) is supposed to be incredible, CPU usage is extremely low.


ok thanks for that mate, i can get ram dirt cheap for the ibook, so prob upgrade it by a gig or so.
its just annoying that all uk prices are �430 ish then when you lookk at the product on ebay you can get it from usa for �300ish, but then theres the taxes/import duties cost on top. just wasnt sure wheres best to get it from.

thanks for the help anyway mate.

max


Posted by blacknoizybox on Mar-29-2006 05:33:

i see alot of SSL users prefer Mac over PC laptops. wont Toshiba, Dell, Samsung etc. do the job?


Posted by Zild on Mar-29-2006 05:51:

I use a Dell.


Posted by on Mar-29-2006 06:03:

quote:
Originally posted by blacknoizybox
i see alot of SSL users prefer Mac over PC laptops. wont Toshiba, Dell, Samsung etc. do the job?


They will.. but Mac's tend to get used more in Production and heavy requirement applications (Albeton, SSL, FS/FS2, Reason, Video editting software, etc) as that is more what they are designed for.. But PC laptops can do the job.. its mostly a preference I find..


Posted by Zild on Mar-29-2006 06:26:

SSL isn't very resource intensive.



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