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The tune that started the rot...
No one is in any denial that trance is in sickly state right now, with lines between trance, prog, house becoming increasingly blurred by many producers. However, this was not always the case. There was a time, once upon ago, that all was good in the hood & trance truly shook our world. My question to you, my good people, is: what song in your opinion, signalled the beginning of the end for trance. Many purists may argue that is started just before the 'Crasher era of '99, but of course, it is subject to opinion. I'd have to say "Castles In The Sky", I think it was a precursor to DJ Sammy, Angel City & their ilk. What do you, my esteemed tranceaddicts think?
ANYTHING BY AQUA OR THE VENGABOYS
That's a very good point! They peak my shit-o-meter with a big 10!
motorcycle - as the rush comes
before this, about 2/3 of all new songs were listenable, now its more like 1 in 100 that is 
Robert Miles - Children
im sentimentaly attached to "as the rush comes" ....
i think this tune is great but maybe because she reminds me memories
and i think the dance tunes like fragma alice deejay or some others casted a shadow over the trance music
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| Originally posted by CranberryJuice and i think the dance tunes like fragma alice deejay or some others casted a shadow over the trance music |
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| Originally posted by Ian motorcycle - as the rush comes before this, about 2/3 of all new songs were listenable, now its more like 1 in 100 that is |
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| Originally posted by CranberryJuice im sentimentaly attached to "as the rush comes" .... i think this tune is great but maybe because she reminds me memories and i think the dance tunes like fragma alice deejay or some others casted a shadow over the trance music |
There's always been commercially successful cheesy dance music so I don't really see how that has contributed to the decline of trance in general over recent years. I think it has more to do with the fact that the genre is stuck in a rut with nowhere to go, and this is partly thanks to the surge of new amateur producers posing as professionals while hopelessly recycling ideas, chord patterns and melodies from years past using all the same sounds and presets.
As long as nobody is bringing anything new to the table, of course what is already there will become stale. Trance needs a big kick up the arse but frankly I'd be surprised if one is forthcoming.
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| Originally posted by Ian motorcycle - as the rush comes before this, about 2/3 of all new songs were listenable, now its more like 1 in 100 that is |
I think it was the moment when Rank 1's Airwave became a huge hit.
The first thing that comes to mind is the commercial shizzle like Vengaboys and all that. So I guess that's my answer.
On a side note, I absolutely hate Awakening, Airwave and Conspiracy by Rank 1 (And Marco V)!!!!
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| Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I think it was the moment when Rank 1's Airwave became a huge hit. |
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| Originally posted by Ian I understand it's 'cool' to criticise anything that was popular during that period, and indeed a good amount of this comes from the people who were riding the wave of popularity it had back then. Sadly for any of us who were fans before, and after 99/2000 we've had to suffer in the genre we love, and finding quality music 7 years on is a hell of a lot harder... |
Castles In the Sky
Bryan Adams.
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| Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Stop giving me that crap. I'm not bashing anything because it was popular- but I fucking hate Airwave and have done since the first time I heard it. It represents the moment when the over-the-top dramatics that Ferry Corsten had introduced were just taken too far. Like someone else said, trance was taking itself too seriously and Airwave was simply the first noticable instance of that for me- it was so overblown and somehow became hugely popular without anyone ever thinking "Wait- this is an absolutely ridiculous track". |
Tiesto in concert,
for me, I was having fun with this music right up through Tiesto in concert, and after that stuff started sounding bad. I can lighten up and enjoy an anthem, but that whole pop concert thing coupled with the mcprog really ruined it. I could even deal with the god complex, it was more the mcprog that he popularized starting with tiesto in concert that bothers me. After the tiesto concert came GDJB and the fall of ASOT, from my perspective.
IMO it is the gerneal practice of subscribing to fads, of taking too much influence from the elites and not contributing any unique ideas. We let a very select few control the direction of this music. When Sasha and Digweed declared that trance was no longer cool we all followed them into prog, and then pretended like we were listening to that stuff the whole time when really it was only a few of us that did. If some more people would have just done thier own thing instead of hopping onto the proggy bandwagon we wouldnt be in this mess right now, too much fad following in the EDM world.
I haven't heard TiC, but I wasn't aware that Tiesto has ever pushed McProg.
Re: The tune that started the rot...
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| Originally posted by Lyle No one is in any denial that trance is in sickly state right now... |
well, it wasnt really mcprog, but the precursors, like andain - beautiful things, and holden - nothing(93 returning). He was the first person I heard play gabriel and dresden. And I'm sure many other people had that same expeirence, im sure they were around before TiC, but tiesto I think is responsible for alot of their popularity, and for kinda starting us on the path into mcprog, before passing the baton to GDJB.
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| Originally posted by Zombie0915 well, it wasnt really mcprog, but the precursors, like andain - beautiful things, and holden - nothing(93 returning). He was the first person I heard play gabriel and dresden. And I'm sure many other people had that same expeirence, im sure they were around before TiC, but tiesto I think is responsible for alot of their popularity, and for kinda starting us on the path into mcprog, before passing the baton to GDJB. |
Motorcycle-as the rush comes & Andain-beautiful things........
it seemed to me, mcprog was coined right around the time of whiteroom - whiteroom, which was the same kinda asthetic as beautiful things and that vocal thing from nothing 93 returning, right around the time with whiteroom and probspot was when people started bitghinng about mcprog here on TA, then came the coldharbor remixes.
Im sure it could be traced further, but to me, this was the straw that broke the camels back, so I blame tiesto.
not too many people were really complaining much about the gabriel and dresden 2003 stuff though, because at first it was a refreshing sound.
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