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Marijuana decriminlization" to go up in smoke". Thanks tories

Pot law about to go up in smoke
Apr. 3, 2006. 09:22 PM
FROM THE N.Y. TIMES

Prime Minister Stephen Harper announced Monday that he was scrapping draft legislation to decriminalize possession of small amounts of marijuana, a measure that had been strongly criticized by the United States.

The move was not unexpected, because Harper's Conservative party had opposed the measure. But it was symbolically important coming only days after Harper's first meeting as prime minister with President George W. Bush at a summit meeting in Mexico.

Harper announced the move during a speech to the Canadian Professional Police Association in which he pledged to toughen sentences for drug and gun crimes, tighten parole rules, strengthen controls on child pornography and expand the national databank of DNA samples for convicted criminals.

"We are going to hold criminals to account," said Harper, who was elected in January. "If you do a serious crime, you're going to do serious time.''

The former Liberal government had drafted the legislation, which would have made possession of less than 15 grams of marijuana a minor offence punishable by fines of between $100 and $400. Those found with small amounts would no longer have had a criminal record.

Several American officials had warned that the legislation would force the United States to increase its inspections at the border and thereby risk creating more delays for trade and tourists. It was also viewed by American officials as a harmful symbol when the Canadian marijuana industry, which is estimated to generate as much as $8.5 billion annually, is spreading across the country and exporting widely in the United States.

The legislation was also opposed by local Canadian police departments.

The proposed law, drafted three years ago, was never brought to a vote. But it remained an irritant in relations between Canada and the United States, especially as the Canadian police have made fewer and fewer arrests for marijuana possession in recent years.

The three opposition parties are not expected to try to resuscitate the legislation, although together they control a majority in the House of Commons.

The Toronto Star reported Monday that local police officers around the metropolitan Toronto area had taken their cue from the new Harper government and had begun cracking down on possession of marijuana in recent weeks.

Harper's emphasis on reducing crime is part of a broader pattern to emphasize policies that are not likely to bring much opposition, like fighting government corruption, cutting the national sales tax and reducing waiting time for health care.

Because the opposition parties, all to the left of his Conservatives, have the power to bring down the government if they unite against him, Harper apparently is treading carefully not to antagonize them.

The most contentious issue in the new Parliament is child-care policy. The Conservatives prefer granting direct allowances to families with small children while the opposition prefers the establishment of a national child-care program.

NOOOOOOOOOOO

Dont these guys have bigger fish to fry?


I'd worry about guns before tackling people smokin some herbs.

extremely gay... the dream was alive for a little while, and now its all gone

that's it i'm moving too amsterdam

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Originally posted by Djsketchbag that's it i'm moving too amsterdam

That's it, I'm moving to your attic.

liberals will be back....the legislation will be back...
the ball is rolling and its not gonna stop now..

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Originally posted by samhouse liberals will be back....the legislation will be back... the ball is rolling and its not gonna stop now..

Heh, rolling.

meh,

it aint gonna stop me from the occasional after work puff.

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Originally posted by samhouse liberals will be back....the legislation will be back... the ball is rolling and its not gonna stop now..

The problem is, even the liberals sat on this for soo long! Too long.

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"If you do a serious crime, you're going to do serious time."

He's on a mission people. And he's grouped smoking pot into this category.

The pot smokers are still gonna smoke pot. Most people don't justify smoking pot because its only a small fine. End of story.

Worry about all these fucking gangs that are ruining our streets!


Ugh this guy is annoying me

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Originally posted by KaiLee Worry about all these fucking gangs that are ruining our streets! Ugh this guy is annoying me

I couldnt agree more! Like seriously, are there not bigger things wrong with our country? (cue Jayx1)

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Originally posted by Djsketchbag that's it i'm moving too amsterdam

+ 1


No greater feeling in the world then walking down a narrow street in amsterdam while you are sparking up a big joint and having cops pass you by while completely ignoring you.

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Originally posted by Stingray I couldnt agree more! Like seriously, are there not bigger things wrong with our country? (cue Jayx1)

A lot of the violence/gang stuff could be related to the fact that selling Marijuana is illegal in the first place. Take away the reason to grow/sell illegally and the organizations related to it will cease to exist ... or move on to other drugs ... hmm maybe this won't totally solve the problem.

what happened canada, you used to be so cool

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Originally posted by c2lancas A lot of the violence/gang stuff could be related to the fact that selling Marijuana is illegal in the first place. Take away the reason to grow/sell illegally and the organizations related to it will cease to exist ... or move on to other drugs ... hmm maybe this won't totally solve the problem.

Good point, but I don't think that the thugs selling drugs on the streets are the big problem. I doubt that the major importers of our beloved substances walk around with bandanas sporting "yo yo yo" attitudes.
I don't really know where I was going with this... I hate the thugz too, that's all

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Originally posted by c2lancas A lot of the violence/gang stuff could be related to the fact that selling Marijuana is illegal in the first place. Take away the reason to grow/sell illegally and the organizations related to it will cease to exist ... or move on to other drugs ... hmm maybe this won't totally solve the problem.

How about the many other drugs gangs are involved in selling? Cocaine, Meth, Crack, Heroin, etc. etc.

He needs to focus on those drugs.....which are causing way more problems than Marijuana.

I grew up in the states and saw some of my friends who were honour roll students get tossed in jail for having a small amount of weed, or a pipe (for smoking pot) and happened to get pulled over by a power tripping cop. They sat in jail with criminals that have done far worse things than them....at only the age of 16, 17?

Let's hope Canada doesn't turn into that....

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Originally posted by KaiLee Let's hope Canada doesn't turn into that....

It's on track ... and I think you misunderstood me.

I was saying that making a relatively harmless drug like pot legal would cut out the organized crime associated with it. Not all drug related organized crime, but a large chunk of it. Then you'd be left with the big timers associated with coke etc.

Ahhh alright, sorry just woke up from a nap so I'm not fully there! lol

Totally agree with you on that one

oh boohoo

Liberals sat on this bill for what? 12 years? And it made SO much progress now the Conservatives get rid of it and everyone makes a big fuss about it. Is it gonna stop anyone here from smoking? Doubt it.

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Originally posted by c2lancas I was saying that making a relatively harmless drug like pot legal

dude, pot won't be legal here for a VERY long time. Even if the "Liberals" were in power for 50 years; it would never happen. The furthest it would go would be decriminalization. And there's always hope that the province might do that.

boohoo....something we knew about finally coming to fruition(sp?). Won't be stopping me from toking the bonics, that for sure.

they were doing a show on this exact thing on CFRB 1010, i called in and blazed the whole concept. Stephen Harper and his pathetic American ways, will seek to instill his idea of Canadian values on the entire country.Fvck him.

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Originally posted by 7-4-7 they were doing a show on this exact thing on CFRB 1010, i called in and blazed the whole concept. Stephen Harper and his pathetic American ways, will seek to instill his idea of Canadian values on the entire country.Fvck him.

Let me know what these "Canadian values" are, because I sure don't understand it.

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