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Posted by AndySmith on Apr-05-2006 13:01:

Recording Sets

I dont have a laptop, and cant really afford to buy one.

So is there any other didital device that i can use to record a set then put onto PC? Just as a tie over thing until i can afford a laptop.

Also my brother has a really slow laptop that has about 17GB harddrive (that bad) so what kind of things would i need to buy in order to be able to record.

Websites would be helpful, cheers


Posted by McKee on Apr-05-2006 13:46:

http://www.djstore.co.uk/cgi-bin/it...ort=&terms=ikey gemini IKEY


Posted by DJ Elf on Apr-05-2006 14:12:

Use your computer?

Soundforge 8
Audacity

All you need is RCA cable and one of those programs and you don't need much more.. And course hook everything up to your computer -.-


Posted by AndySmith on Apr-05-2006 14:57:

quote:
Originally posted by McKee
http://www.djstore.co.uk/cgi-bin/it...ort=&terms=ikey gemini IKEY


Mate that looks perfect, do you have one?


Posted by McKee on Apr-05-2006 16:52:

no, but i'm in the same problem as you, therefore i intend to get one soon


Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on Apr-05-2006 23:14:

how about a good ole CD-recordable deck? then you'll be recording directly to a CD. transfering the music to your PC will be as simple as ripping the CD.

dont forget S/PDIF -- S/PDIF interfaces for the PC are hella cheap now (some motherboards even have built in S/PDIF now) and that will let you transfer from any S/PDIF capable deck directly to the PC, 100% digital. that opens up minidisc and DAT decks as well.

honestly, dont bother with the laptop. they crash, get broken easy, and are a prime theft target! the mini harddrives in them are very delicate, and your overall investment is quite high... nevermind how quickly they become outdated.

if your looking for something to take to a gig, consider a portable DAT recorder. tapes are most resistent to massive vibration from large sound rigs, which tend to muck up portable CD recorders.


Posted by Freak on Apr-05-2006 23:50:

For the price of an Ikey (which is shithot actually) you can get a CD recorder.
If you get one that can use CDRW, then you can record, rip from cd--> then re-use discs.
I swear by mine....


Posted by AndySmith on Apr-07-2006 16:08:

Where can i get a CD-RW from, and if its the same price as the Ikey, then digital will be better than CD and probably quicker, no? I have a Sony MP3 player, do you think the Ikey will record onto the MP3 player? It says any USB device, and that is a UDB device??


Posted by nutsan on Apr-07-2006 22:37:

why not just use your pc?


Posted by L.E.N. on Apr-07-2006 22:39:

quote:
Originally posted by nutsan
why not just use your pc?


Thats how Im setup...but an hour mix is 2 gigs. Im using a converter so I can Have 24bit/96khz sound....then I can dither it down to 78megs mp3. Still huge but it keeps the quality.


Posted by nutsan on Apr-07-2006 22:42:

buy an external hard drive if your stuff for space. still cheaper than that gemini thing. then ud have loads of gigs to record on!

wen you record, it records it to wav which takes up loads of space, but once your done mixing you can encode it to mp3 at any bit rate you want. this makes the file about 75% smaller. plus you have an advantage of level meters which that gemini thingy doesnt have.


Posted by Pinokio on Apr-07-2006 23:46:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Elf
Use your computer?

Soundforge 8
Audacity

All you need is RCA cable and one of those programs and you don't need much more.. And course hook everything up to your computer -.-


Id id that, but I don't get to record anything, I can not even hear the sound coming from my mixer.

I have apir of CDJ-200 and a Vestax PCV-275 Mixer.

Do I need a special soundcard to record my mixes?


Posted by sr126 on Apr-09-2006 07:18:

you don't "need" a special soundcard...

the card that is built into my motherboard worked for recording mixes, but that thing is quite the hisser. it added loads of noise to my mix.

right now i'm using an emu1212, a zillion times better. it does a great job of preserving the sound quality of my set up, and it's very quiet. the noise floor is about -80db w/unbalanced cables. now the quite passages are actually quiet! actually the noise you do hear in my mixes is actually the vinyl moving along the groove, not soundcard.

before there was this constant hiss, lurking in the shadow of my music. very obvious during quite passages, or when there weren't any pads to overpower the noise. it sucked.


Posted by Pinokio on Apr-09-2006 13:46:

so do you have nay Idea why I don't even get a osund when I connect my mixer to my computer.
I check all volumes and they are not mute.


Posted by skip on Apr-09-2006 14:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Pinokio
so do you have nay Idea why I don't even get a osund when I connect my mixer to my computer.
I check all volumes and they are not mute.



if you try to record it with for example audacity, it's just silence? if that's the case, then either your mixer, your cable or your sound card line-in is fucked. if not then you've connected it wrong. that's all i can come up with. but normally when you feed something to the computer thru line in you don't hear it on the computer speakers if that's what you're asking. i know i had some option somewhere called something like "loop line in to line out" and if i checked that the sound that would go to the line in would come out of the line out also. if i were you, i'd test the cable, the mixer outs and the line in in your computer with different gear. if everything works then i can't really help.


Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on Apr-09-2006 20:47:

maybe you just dont have the line-in input selected?

try sndvol32 /r (windows recording mixer)

im not familiar with audacity, it may have sound configuration inside the application as well, but most windows sound apps default to using whatever the windows mixer has selected. generally, the line input is not default.. usually ends up being the microphone.


Posted by Pinokio on Apr-10-2006 18:46:

Thanks for the reply, After reading I'll try to do eveyrthing again.

so when i get eevrythign connected it should not sound throug mty computer speakers?
it shoudl only sound when my computer it's turned on and Audacity Software it's open.

Do I have to sleect an special option in audacity to set the line in, or it shoudl recognize it just when i open audacity?

Thanks.


Posted by skip on Apr-10-2006 19:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Pinokio
Thanks for the reply, After reading I'll try to do eveyrthing again.

so when i get eevrythign connected it should not sound throug mty computer speakers?
it shoudl only sound when my computer it's turned on and Audacity Software it's open.

Do I have to sleect an special option in audacity to set the line in, or it shoudl recognize it just when i open audacity?

Thanks.


it won't come out of your computer speakers if you're computer is turned off. and even if it's turned on and audacity is on, you most likely won't hear it on your computer speakers, that depends on your soundcard most likely. but on all cards i've had the line in audio won't come out from the line out unless you select it to loop the line in to line out. and i dunno where that can be done as it depends on your soundcard and the drivers/programs for it.
and on audacity main window there's a menu from where you can choose what you're recording.



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