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Posted by sterilis on Apr-06-2006 00:42:

[Trance] Barry Kane - Birth *FULL TRACK* (BTK Mix)

Here's the final version of the original of Birth.

Tried tighting things up and changed the bassline as it didn't work added a pad from the beginnning up until the break to give the tracka more uplifting feel.

Hope this version is better than the 'Deep Edit' I did a few weeks back!

Any comments are welcome!

cheers!

Kane

CLICK HERE YOUSENDIT


Posted by dj_kyron on Apr-06-2006 01:46:

It starts off pretty funky. Cool

The song is pretty good but here are a few things I recommend that would make it sound much better:

1) The song is not loud enough over all. Especially the highs and lows. Adding more volume will definetly give it more life.
2) The kick should cut through the mix near the end synth stage (@ like 5:00ish)
3) EQing the kick to be louder and fatter would make the track sound more uplifting and a present and clear kick always drives a song through each stage

Anywayz man good job, keep it up

eZ


Posted by sterilis on Apr-06-2006 12:53:

Cheers mate

ill look into the kick. i had the kick louder last time but people said it was too loud. i can't win!

anyone else?


Posted by sterilis on Apr-06-2006 21:05:

anyone tell me if its shit then?

40 views and 1 comment.

i thought it was better than the 'deep edit' i did.


Posted by covert23 on Apr-06-2006 22:17:

Evil1

arangments good.watch the high freq on your efx some are too high.
kik needs to be harder.not bad effort keep up the good work....
reveiew my tune connected by covert23


Posted by sterilis on Apr-07-2006 14:13:

Thanks guys.

The kick will be fixed. the end of the track feeling empty ill through a few effect in there as i dont want it to sound crowed because there are three synths working together there. the front one is very over powering.


Posted by richg101 on Apr-07-2006 16:32:

yo barry.

sorry i replied so late

i like this. kick sounds too comped for me. ease up imo. give the track a bit more warmth.

this version sounds better than the last version i listened to. more upfront sounds. you have quite a nice drive here.

the kick is the only real issue i have. your sound is quite original.

2;11 there is a note clash imo. doesnt sound quite right.

your kick being overcomped is really adversly affecting the track. check it on a spectrum analyser. you got loads of high bass but no low. the kick is very mid bass prominant on the windows media player analyser(orange one)..

also do a bit of mixing. turn up all the percs and synths a bit.

overall this sounds quite experimntal to me. a lot of varied sounds.

sorry if i sound harsh but i noticed a few easy to sort things here

keep it up mate

rich


Posted by mavve on Apr-07-2006 19:36:

Cool track you got here m8 , but I feel the kick is "woody" but i dont know that might be my beyer phones (no deep base in them) how ever good comp on this and what i love is all the differences in the tune , happens new stuff all the time, but I feel it misses a catch =( Btw great break nice tweak on the strings i thought it was the tv that was on in the other end of the room =) keep it up - Mavve


Posted by sterilis on Apr-08-2006 11:22:

thanks rich and mavve

yea the kick is a problem i should have left it the way i had it last time. going to sort that today. im listening back on the point of the note clash and i can hear it myself. have to sort that too.

cheers


Posted by DJ_Eternal on Apr-08-2006 11:37:

Hey Kane, listened to your track...

I think as everyone has pointed out already, the kick needs a bit of work done to it. Maybe add some higher freqs to it, or layer it with a sample that is punchier.

The bassline seems to overpower the kick at points making it stand out too much, i would suggest increasing the kick volume but uve done that already

When the melody picks up, kinda reminds me a DJ Shog track. I do like it though. As im listening to it, the lead has too many low freqs in it which dont compliment the bass and kick too well.

Nice fx used though Kane in this track. Some more work required

Sorry if im being harsh

Good track though.


Posted by sterilis on Apr-08-2006 16:08:

you can never be harsh mate. its all about trial and error.

working on the kick at the minute. i think it definately sounds much better. ill upload a link later when i sort out the rest of the track.

rich the note clash is a problem i mixed it down and imported it as an audio file to save cpu. now i cant find the midi file. going to have to find another way around it.

cheers


Posted by Majutsu on Apr-08-2006 18:30:

nice loud tight master I notice.

The bass is good and sounds nice. The kick does need thickness, but we are all looking for that mystical kick

The sound has a proper drifting feel, while the percussion drives. The melody is responsible for that and good.
I think the lead in at 2:19 is very good, but maybe have a filter or other heavy effect at the tip too, so that it clears up as it loudens in.
The vocal sample is great. Reminds me of old school mentality -- quite superb there.
Instead of drums at 3:59 I would maybe consider a swishy/techno-like percussion, it would sound less amateur.
Could you add a granular sound at 4:54, the starkness there makes the synth there sound a little cheesy. A slow bubbling soft granular pad would make it bittersweet intead.
Nice sense of completion at 6:30 this sounds well structured. It really makes a journey and a statement, which is the goal.
Good job.


Posted by sterilis on Apr-08-2006 19:26:

cheers majatsu. unfortunately i havent had a chance to llok at the areas you stated. ill look at them next time.

anyway heres the latest version. let me know if they kick is better.

ive eq'ed the bass more but im not sure if i like it. let me know.

cheer

kane

CLICK


Posted by djlogik on Apr-08-2006 23:41:

As I stated earlier, I like this track. It has a nice feel to it. Kick is better now. Nice fx work but some have too much highs on them. Otherwise nice track and has originality. Keep up the good work mate!


Posted by sterilis on Apr-09-2006 15:03:

cheers mate! yea going to sort those efx out.


Posted by Lakeus on Apr-09-2006 15:28:

Hey... this is definitely original, the dark atmosphere of the track is really cool!! The bass sound could be little bit fatter, imo the kick is fine. Sounds little bit atonal time to time, I don�t know if you meant it...Nice effect before 3:00... I don�t like too much the vocals but a matter of personal taste. The lead sounds takes too much space in the sound spectrum not leaving place for anything else and it�s also way too loud. You could try fixing it with the eq...

It�s an original track... !!

Cheers, Lakeus


Posted by sterilis on Apr-09-2006 18:08:

cheers Lakeus

going to sort all problems out when i get a chance. want to leave it for a few days. sick of listening to it at the minute.

cheers tho!


Posted by iloop on Apr-09-2006 22:11:

beh, what a track to remix... why? the melodies are horrible- just my opinion, but their so full of offkeyness, + the arrangement and build-ups don't really help all that much to distract you from the horibleness of the melodic lines. Overall the track sounds too empty and doesn't do it for me...


Posted by sterilis on Apr-10-2006 00:38:

obviously not to your taste then lol


Posted by DylanSwe on Apr-10-2006 13:49:

hmm..maybe I shouldnt review these type of tracks when Im sick...

anyways..good start, but somewhere at the 2 minute mark it sounds way off-key..sounds false. after that its ok.

the big synths at 4.25 sounds mono/muffled-like..is there any frequency low on that?

When the track is in full "bloom" it sounds to soft/mellow, but maybe thats the style? I wanted more hi-hats, cymbals, alittle more drive.

take care,


Posted by sterilis on Apr-10-2006 23:23:

EQ'ed the track too much. binned it. starting a new one. thanks for the feedback everyone. hopefully my next track is better.


Posted by cybernetica on Apr-11-2006 08:28:

Hey,

commenting as I listen...
Good kick, great mysterious atmosphere. The elements work well together.
Some nice FX that work well in the overall mix.
1:55 ... this is evil, maybe a little muddy in the lower frequencies, but a nice acidline, seems a little Psyish to me. Me likes!
In my opinion the breakdown could come to the point straighter.
The lead starting at ~4:30 is too muddy and too dominant IMO. It takes away a lot of space for other elements needed in the track.

Overall, it sounds kinda promising, I'd have another look especially at the main part.
Keep it up!

oh, good that I read your last posting AFTER commenting ... anyway, good luck with your next attempt


Posted by Subtle on Apr-12-2006 11:43:

nice kick, liking the atmosphere..

haha didnt expect those vocals.. its the "famous" Kai Tracid vocalist.. i remember this voice.. the melody after the break is a bit repeteive and is going on for too long.. u could have made a different ending to the track imo..



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