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Posted by spacechica on Apr-06-2006 19:42:

Urgent Help Needed to Help Stop Illegal Organ Harvesting Death Camps in China

Hello fellow TA's,

There comes a time when one seeks the help of friends, family and special interest community members- such as fellow TranceAddicts. I am very concerned about an ongoing atrocity that is happening in China right at this very moment:

There have been confirmed at least 36 illegal organ harvesting death camps in China. Falun Gong practitioners and other prisoners of conscience are believed to be victims of non-consensual organ removal followed by a hasty cremation (to cover up the evidence) in these death camps. Please read more about it. You can help by contacting your local Congressman or Senator to raise awareness and help to save the lives in these death camps.

Here are some reports:

http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/6-3-17/39405.html

http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/6-4-6/40147.html

Here is a website that automatically allows you to send a fax to a Representative from the United States Congress or Senate in your area:

http://publicpetition.unvcc.com/UN/index.php

You can also call the White House comment line: (202) 456-1111 and request that President Bush demand third-party investigations regarding the illegal organ harvesting death camps in China during Chinese leader Hu Jintao's upcoming visit.

Every phone call, fax or email can help to save these innocent people.


For more information on the history of the Chinese Communist Party, please check out this site:

http://ninecommentaries.com


Thank you for your time,
Mindy Chao
aka spacechica


Posted by LuNaSeA on Apr-06-2006 19:50:

oh my god.. i just read the first article you linked.. absolutely horrific. this is like urban legend vs. holocaust type shit. reading on now..


Posted by Groundhog Boy on Apr-06-2006 19:52:

There were protesters in Union Square holding up signs to this effect the other weekend. Things like "The Chinese Government Harvests the Organs of the Falun Gong"

Pretty fucked up stuff.


Posted by LuNaSeA on Apr-06-2006 20:03:

i am becoming nauseated.. woah..taken from the 1st article interview..


Question: It is said the hospital is equipped with an incinerator. The person whose organs were removed will be burned when he or she is still alive. Is that true?

Answer: The employees in our hospital call this place "the incinerator." Actually, it is a boiler room. Some poor farmers from nearby places were hired to work in the boiler room. They were penniless when they first came here. But they could scrape up some watches, finger rings, necklaces, and so on. The amount is not small. It is said by the employees in the hospital these jewelry and watches were collected from the Falun Gong practitioners whose organs had been removed when they were about to be thrown in the boiler to be burned. It is also said by the employees in the hospital, some were still alive when being thrown into the boiler.

Question: Do they get injection of anesthetic when in surgery?

Answer: Yes. There is a cap to the anesthetic quantity used in mainland China's hospitals. Generally, the supply of anesthetic was determined according to the accommodation of the hospital. To the public, the number of patients in our care appears to be very small, and publicly reported number of surgical procedures performed is quite low. But the equipment and articles used in surgery are abundant. Because the amount of anesthetic is limited, these secret surgeries could not use the normal anesthetic doses. In order to save anesthetic, they economized on the anesthetic used in surgeries on these Falun Gong practitioners. The amount of anesthetic used was very small. However, many whose organs were removed were still alive. You can imagine the pain suffered by the Falun Gong practitioners whose organs were removed.

Question: Are there any survivors among the 6,000 people detained since 2001?

Answer: Nobody has come out alive. The number of them gets smaller and smaller. The Falun Gong practitioners detained at Sujiatun are fewer now than before. But I believe that the sin of removing the organs of the Falun Gong practitioners is still continuing.


Posted by spacechica on Apr-06-2006 23:36:

Hi TA's,

Thanks for your support. Please help in any way you can. I'm sure that every voice will make a difference.

Best wishes,
spacechica


Posted by AndreaCKY772 on Apr-06-2006 23:46:

that is absolutley horrible...i've heard of events like this and it's just terrible. thanks for bringing it more attention!

people need to be more aware about these type of things.


Posted by SiLveR_NrGy_985 on Apr-07-2006 02:17:

this is absolutely nuts...... i've heard about this before and seen some protests up near central park and i think i've some in amsterdam too i actually signed a petition to get to stop this madness i can't believe people would be so cruel as to doing these things.....


Posted by dEsidEL on Apr-07-2006 02:46:



hmmmmmmmmmm........ why does this news not surprise me


Posted by euphoria on Apr-07-2006 13:04:

OMG this is horrible!

I clicked the link at the end of the article and found this. If you get queasy easily dont look.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/6-3-11/39169.html


Posted by LuNaSeA on Apr-07-2006 13:38:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL


hmmmmmmmmmm........ why does this news not surprise me



hey emz, splain more!


Posted by dEsidEL on Apr-16-2006 03:42:

quote:
Originally posted by LuNaSeA
hey emz, splain more!


quote:

Embassy Spokesperson: Lies about the So-called "Sujiatun Concentration Camp" Concocted by "Falun Gong" Not Worth Refuting
2006/04/06

Recently, "Falun Gong" has started to play up the so-called "Sujiatun concentration camp" issue, claiming that more than 6000 "Falun Gong" practitioners had been imprisoned at the "Sujiatun concentration camp" which was surrounded by 3-meter high barbed wire, and two-thirds of them had already been cremated.

"Falun Gong" is very good at concocting lies. Such an absurd lie is not worth refuting and no one with common sense will believe it. The fact is that Sujiatun,a district of Shenyang, capital city of China's Liaoning Province,is a state-designated suburban agricultural pilot area and the so-called "concentration camp" does not exist at all. Even "Falun Gong" itself later realized the absurdity of such a lie and retracted by saying that the "concentration camp" was actually inside a small hospital. But how can a small hospital hold 6000 people? At present, some foreign journalists are already in Sujiatun on a fact-finding mission. The facts will undoubtedly lay bare the lies of "Falun Gong".



http://www.chinaembassycanada.org/eng/xwdt/t244686.htm




i'm not trying to suggest what was said is true/untrue.. just that there are always 2 sides to every story


btw. nice to seeya reachin LP and WC '06 this summer.. i'll be there too


Posted by Miss Bliss on Apr-16-2006 04:00:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL
http://www.chinaembassycanada.org/eng/xwdt/t244686.htm




i'm not trying to suggest what was said is true/untrue.. just that there are always 2 sides to every story


btw. nice to seeya reachin LP and WC '06 this summer.. i'll be there too


Dude, why don't you look at the third side of the story, that the Chinese gov't has an OFFICIAL POLICY of prosecuting peaceful Falun Gong practitioners, or for that matter, anyone who doesn't subscribe to the standard state ideology of the People's Republic of China... Falun Gong is a practice based on faith, morals, and aspects of health... the government suppresses demonstrations by practitioners by violence, bans publication of their materials... why? Because no other organization that has the potential to draw support and faith should exist alongside the Communist Party.

I'm not saying the organ farming is true or untrue either, but they put "Falun Gong" in quotes because they don't recognize the faith and they don't even think these people should be alive.

Why would you trust a quote from a government official whose country blocks "controversial" internet sites so its citizens can live in some self-contained, perfect little state-controls-media world?


Posted by LuNaSeA on Apr-16-2006 04:55:

slightly tangent to this topic, i was talking to my friend billy (fellow TA lurker) whose father is a mongolian diplomat and works for the UN, who basicaly said 'believe it. especially considering china has the worst human rights history in the world..'


Posted by dEsidEL on Apr-16-2006 16:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Miss Bliss
Dude, why don't you look at the third side of the story, that the Chinese gov't has an OFFICIAL POLICY of prosecuting peaceful Falun Gong practitioners, or for that matter, anyone who doesn't subscribe to the standard state ideology of the People's Republic of China... Falun Gong is a practice based on faith, morals, and aspects of health... the government suppresses demonstrations by practitioners by violence, bans publication of their materials... why? Because no other organization that has the potential to draw support and faith should exist alongside the Communist Party.

I'm not saying the organ farming is true or untrue either, but they put "Falun Gong" in quotes because they don't recognize the faith and they don't even think these people should be alive.

Why would you trust a quote from a government official whose country blocks "controversial" internet sites so its citizens can live in some self-contained, perfect little state-controls-media world?




i'm not saying that i trust them, i'm just trying to point out that one should always look at such testimony as objectively as possible which would include consideration from all sources whether they be from PRC State Controlled Media or from other independent media outlets.

Although from a personal standpoint, I do sympathize with many of the struggles of the Falung Gong practitioners, but I have also however witnessed some of their very brash attempts at garnering media attention through forums (not to be confused with this one), not intended for that purpose that some may even consider to be offensive.

Bear in mind that there are other religious groups which exist in China, both subject to government recognition as well as persecution. I don't doubt that the PRC government has cracked down on Falung Gong members in violation of their human rights, but I would not be in any way surprised to find some of their claims later debunked, or at the very least exaggerated.

I realize that my quote of the PRC statement is likely perceived as being one extreme of the spectrum, but it's that very notion that I'm trying to get across.




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