*update* [Banging TechTrance]Cybernetika - Droid IV (320kbps, full)

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Posted by cybernetica on Apr-08-2006 12:41:

Hey tranceaddicts,
this is what I've been doing in the past weeks. A track I'm very proud of, something different from my usual stuff. "Droid IV" is pure dancefloor stuff; This is melodic, fast and banging Techtrance.

"Droid IV" (version 2)
BPM: 148
Length: 10:20
Bitrate: 320kbps
Filesize: ~21 MB
Equipment used: FL Studio 6, ReFX Vanguard, Audiorealism Bassline, rgc z3ta+, karmaKiller, etc.

The link:
http://www.cybernetika.de/cybernetika_-_droid_IV.mp3

enjoy it

*edit:

I just updated the link with a new version!

- some mastering issues, especially on percussion
- made the bass "clearer"
- changed the BPM from 154 to 148
- another hihat added
- psyish synth added
- pads added
- structure changed, track is a little longer now.

still enjoy it

Posted by DylanSwe on Apr-08-2006 16:26:

right from the beginning there is a high pitch humming...is that suppose to be there?

sounds like when you have WAY to much volume out from a source that has really LOW volume.

and right of the bat, this is not my style..at all. so wether this track is good or not is mute..Im not even sure I can give you a fair comment.

in some parts it sounds like you have too many things on at the same time. chaos!

but maybe the style is this way?

Posted by adam_rodriguez on Apr-08-2006 16:36:

yeah not really my style either..sure theres a lot of energy in it - be a good song to come on if i was totally off my head...that buzzing at the beginning reminds me of what i heard when i recorded from my TV when i made songs on Music 3000 on the PS2,due to a poor scart lead..

Posted by Dj Cola on Apr-08-2006 17:20:

hmm surfed in on ta, music promotion, saw an cybernetica thread and clicked instantly!
just w8ing for it to dl!
well it is indeed fast.. ,
the vocals are a bit to weird and well bass is a tad low for club music.

this has some nice elements but its way too fast to be "ordinary" club music i think.

the melody is kinda cool, nice synth.
i would actually call this nrg trance :P it just needs a better/higher/louder bass! but thats just me some tunes are good with a low bass.

your melody is very intense i like it .
nothing wrong with the percs but there seems to be stuff missing when they are the only thing with the kick playing.

then comes the beat, the beat is good but i think thats the bass overlaps the kick there .

now comes melody full in and yea now i definatly can say that i would call this energy ! .

i could imagine ppl stomping hell out of them to this on a huge dance floor

i like this track but i think that it lacks something, i cant put my tounge to it!

outro is good, you keep stuff happening here to thats good!

bass stops kindoff abruptly.

great work!

Posted by Majutsu on Apr-08-2006 18:39:

Is that humming the vanguard in the beginning. I've noticed this tendency. The zeta is better for standalone sounds because of this. That's my guess.
The levels are off. The percs and vocals, cut unevenly.
I like this aggressive sound, being used to gabba-americana, so that's alright. You definitely have that sheeting feel you want at 2:27.
I think you need to bring in a 303 or something before 2:45, as it gets monotonous there. I think a filtered 303 or equivalent would lead to some nice play prior to that point.
I like the 3:49 break. Although the overdriven sound is even more obvious and disturbing here. I would mix the whole thing clean. Actually I would like to remix this for a try sometime, as everyone else probably scared anyway

I think you need a new element at 6:00 too. The steam-like hiss is cool but not enough but to add color. The break beat is nice here, but new sounds should with it.
Overall, nice experiment. Good writing. Probably need more chances to remix an aggressive sound, as the faders seem to have crept up on you.

Posted by richg101 on Apr-08-2006 18:50:

this is fast!

the squeeling doesnt worry me

i bet your kick would smash a dancefloor up! its very grunty! a fresh change

i see this being played by yoji biomehanica. or during a massive psy event. the speed makes up for the reletive lack of drive. it wouldnt work well slower but id slow it down and maybe add something to keep the pase up a bit. maybe to 145 or something?

droid is a good name for this.

no real complaints but i dont know much about 'T2' influenced superfast psytrance

good work

rich

Posted by Rinster on Apr-08-2006 19:27:

i like the snarefill kickdrum at 0:36, the bassline is very nice.
i can really see you are a psy-music lover, this track is different then your usual production, but its very good. i dislike the vocals but thats just my opinion. now at 4:06 jezus! good shit man. nice synths... the way you outro the samples is very well layered. good work mate, im going to add this to my collection. thanks.

bidor

Posted by cybernetica on Apr-09-2006 07:33:

thanks a lot for your comments, Dylan, Adam, DJ Cola, Majutsu, rich and bidor.. very helpful suggestions

Dylan, I didnt hear the high pitch humming but its often caused by PiWarp, a ringmod plugin. I might check again for a lowpass-filter on it to remove it. If you are talking about the sound starting at 1:32, I intended it to have a little more high end.

Cola, interesting you mentioned the bass, I was asking myself the same thing. Im still kinda scared to change it as I like it that way, if the bass gets too high, I have problems with putting it in the mix as it interferes both with percs and melodies then.

Majutsu, I only used vanguard for the percs and the gated melody layer. The rest is z3ta+, and I agree with you, for those leads and standout sounds you need a synth with a better quality. Also thank you for your suggestions on arranging, if you would like to remix this, just feel free to ask

rich, thank you a lot, feeling very honored

bidor, the vocals have been added afterwards to add more variation so I might have a look at them, right now however I think they fit quite well.

I got to admit I am still a complete n00b in this genre, I just listened to some heavy banging tech trance tracks which were included in a Psy mix, and I got to admit there is plenty of badass techtrance out there waiting to be discovered.
Plus, it was really fun to produce this. In my recent Psy attempts, I always lost the plot at some point.

Posted by Dj Cola on Apr-09-2006 10:49:

i agree with you on that cybernetika, there are some bad ass techtrance out there! .

i think you should experiment with the bass!

gl with the track!

Posted by cybernetica on Apr-09-2006 12:28:

I just updated the link with a new version!

"Droid IV" -v2

- some mastering issues, especially on percussion
- made the bass "clearer"
- changed the BPM from 154 to 148
- another hihat added
- psyish synth added
- pads added
- structure changed, track is a little longer now.

Posted by Lakeus on Apr-09-2006 16:00:

Hey...

Cybernetika, your tracks really keep on impressing me, the groove is just incredible in this one. Nice to hear some really fast material. It will go straight to my collection... Nice dark melodies, the atmosphere of this track is great, I�ve got to try also producing this kind of a track.. I really like it!!!

Cheers, Lakeus

www.lakeusmusic.com

Posted by Aquarian on Apr-09-2006 21:48:

I'm liking the change in style. This is definately more club-friendly. Vocal sample is a bit akward, but everything else seems to fit.

Posted by Rinster on Apr-09-2006 21:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Aquarian
I'm liking the change in style. This is definately more club-friendly. Vocal sample is a bit akward, but everything else seems to fit.

+1

Posted by Rinster on Apr-10-2006 09:37:

hey cyber, please see your pm box

thanks,

bidor.

Posted by kopi_luwak on Apr-10-2006 18:41:

I just downloaded it mate, gonna listen to it carefully and will give u a review at night at home .
Kopi =o.

Posted by cybernetica on Apr-11-2006 12:20:

Thanks for your replys, guys. bidor, you are getting my response right now

Posted by sterilis on Apr-11-2006 13:43:

definately banging mate

bass is nasty. i like it. dont know about the vocals think they might have too much reverb.

interesting style again from you. i like the drive of it.

nice pads on the breakdown. nice drive after breakdown also. can't really fault parts of it aprt from the vocal near the beginning. i like your stuff.

i heard a vocal that was used in another person's track off here. lol. think it was a willy wonka vocal.

anyway mate good listen.

keep it up

Posted by thoughtlessjex on Apr-11-2006 22:00:

Reverb makes sense, this being techtrance. Feels like to much, though.

Sample seems a little too loud, IMO. There's also a lot of delay on it, which makes it incoherrent. I don't know if that was intentional.

This breakdown feels kinda forced. You should build into it a bit more; create some tension for that pad to maintain.

Around 7:20, the energy starts to get really out of sorts. At 7:30, the chorus just seems sudden.

But aside from that hiccup, the track is pretty good. Keep it up.

Posted by Subtle on Apr-12-2006 11:03:

listening:

loving the bassgroove u got there.. percussions are driving and nice.. those vocals in 1:00 i find just very annoying... maybe their too loud, not subtle enough..

3:30 a sudden break appear.. some mushy strings and a i like the melody very much.. im at 6:00 now, i like the melody and stuff.. bass is ok too.. but i feel the percs are too drowned out..

6:40 cool breakbeat..

7:35 cool melody stuff.. still i think the whole thing is a bit muddy, again, i want to hear the percussions more..

cool production as always though, always seems like ur having fun making music..

Posted by Axolotyl on Apr-13-2006 01:06:

Interesting track mate. Not really my cup of tea but I can appreciate the different styles you are exploring with this one. Even though its tech trance you manage to capture some fairly non tech trance moments. The change in bassline after the break is very cool. The uplifting melodies are very unusual but kinda remind me of a lot of melodic psy type ones.

Regarding the melodies, overall I think you mess around with them too much. Its good to switch them around but the changes need to have meaning and not be too random. Also the melody at 5.43 and again at 7.30 seems out of key or too detuned?? Not sure what it is, it just doesnt sound right to my ears.

Very solid groove to the track though in the percussion and bass department. Also the synth programming is very good indeed.

Nt a bad track, more of an experiment for you I think?

Posted by Four_On_Four-er on Apr-13-2006 04:27:

Hey... you are starting to get into Tech Trance... cool!

However, I'm not sure this would qualify as Tech Trance. The stuff I've heard has a much stronger, and more punishing kick (compareably to hard-trance or heavier). Tech-Trance is also not focused as much on a bassline; basslines that I have heard are either very unorthodox, or they are chorused and do not follow typical bass patterns.

This track has a little too much psy in it, IMO, to really be techy. I dunno, I'm a bit of a noob myself to the tech genre. The bassline itself seems to decieve me, however.

Otherwise, this is a solid construction of effects, loops, and even melodies that are so unlike you. I can tell that alot of good energy into this track.

I love the second break... before and after. The strange pads, and the breakbeat itself, a very techy feel to that. You nailed that part well. It's also phreaky too, good-N-nasty melody afterwards.

This is where the track really seems to redeem itself IMO. The truth seems to have been revealed about everything in general. THe melody reminds me of some video-game soundtrack, and I can't think of the name off the top of my head.

For branching off to a different genre, you did remarkably well. Keep it up!