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Posted by slingshot on Apr-09-2006 16:24:

8 people found murdered outside of London, Ontario

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...ol=968793972154


Posted by smuncky on Apr-09-2006 16:27:

quote:
8 bodies found in cars
Rumours run rampant, but police investigators are revealing few details about four abandoned vehicles and one resident's grisly discovery on his farm near Shedden
Apr. 9, 2006. 08:50 AM
NICOLAAS VAN RIJN
STAFF REPORTER


Forensic investigators in the tiny London-area hamlet of Shedden today are continuing to piece together clues in the worst mass murder in Ontario history, discovered when a local resident went to investigate strange cars parked on his farm overnight.

Police say the man, who lives in a wooded rural area, looked out his window at about 8:30 yesterday morning and saw three cars and a tow truck parked on and near his property.

On investigating, the resident came across the bodies of eight adult white males, police said.

"This type of grisly find is very surprising to a lot of people, ourselves included," said Ontario Provincial Police Sgt. David Rektor.

"It's quite shocking."

Many locals were quick to connect the deaths to the Hells Angels and Bandidos biker gangs that have long been active in this area, and police specialists said a biker connection could not be ruled out.

One police source talked of a motorcycle gang "turf war" that's been going on in the London area for some time.

"That's the first thing that comes to mind," said the source, noting there's a farm in nearby Dutton where members of the motorcycle gang the Bandidos, rivals to the Hells Angels, hang out.

According to a neighbour, local landowner Russ Steele found the bodies on his property, which he bought about a year ago.

Brent Potter, who lives less than a kilometre from the scene, said Steele dropped by yesterday to say he'd be leaving for a few days. Potter said Steele told him he'd found the bodies, which left him badly shaken.

"It's never good to find someone that has been killed in your neighbourhood," Potter said.

Rektor would not say how the men died or where the bodies were located in the crime scene, on Stafford Line near Mill Rd. southwest of St. Thomas and just a short distance from Highway 401. Three cars and a tow truck are involved.

News photographers who flew over the scene, a barren stubble field bordered by trees and shrubbery about 200 kilometres southwest of Toronto, returned with images of a small silver-blue compact hatchback driven into a farmer's field, nosed into a fence a few metres from one of the lonely gravel roads that bisect the area.

The rear hatch was open, showing the body of a man sprawled in the rear.

Parked not far away on the adjacent road was a dark blue tow truck hauling another small blue compact car. A third car was nearby. Police would not say if bodies were found in or near the truck, operated by an Etobicoke company, Superior Towing, or in the other cars. Superior officials would not discuss how one of their trucks came to be involved in the crime scene.

"It's all males that are involved in this incident," the OPP's Rektor said. "I can't speculate on the ages, other than to say they are adult males, Caucasian."

Yesterday's grim discovery, in the pastoral farmlands of southwestern Ontario, came as farmers were preparing the soil for spring seeding, and as local residents were getting ready to celebrate the rituals of Easter week.

"In rural Ontario � especially in Elgin County, which is very much a farming community, a very peaceful area of the province � this type of grisly finding is very surprising," the OPP's Rektor noted.

The discovery left area residents reeling, and trying to make connections as they cast about for answers. Some questioned whether bikers were somehow connected, or drugs, especially after bodies were found dumped here in 1994 and 1998 in murders that remain unsolved today.

Rektor wouldn't comment on a possible biker connection.

"At this stage of the investigation we can't speculate on motives," he said. "And it's something we'll have to find out down the road as the investigation ensues, in terms of what happened."

But he was quick to reassure local residents.

"At this point there is no further information to reveal that there's a threat at this point to people in this area," Rektor said. "The area has been looked at extensively earlier this morning, so at this point we're satisfied that this incident is contained to this area specifically."

Police scoured the area on foot, by helicopter and with tracking dogs, but remained tight-lipped about what they found.

"At this point, there's a lot of information coming in very rapidly, and we're assessing that information," Rektor said, refusing to elaborate. "We've got our criminal investigation branch here, an assortment of experts within the OPP, to do the investigation. We're going to move forward and try to piece it back together."

Local residents, stunned by the violence visited on their tiny community, say that can't happen quickly enough.

Stan Lidster, the deputy mayor of the township of Southwold, which covers the area, said he was shocked by the grim morning discovery.


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"I don't know what to think of it, it's terrible," said Lidster. "This is a pretty quiet area."

One woman, who has lived in the 400-resident hamlet of Sheddon for the past 20 years, said local residents had a grim foreboding when firefighters called to the scene returned to the hall in record time.

"I just had a terrible feeling when the firemen came back," she said. "We were having a church bazaar and we said, `You've been called out,' and they said, `Oh no, it was something bad,' because they weren't even allowed near the crime scene."

The lonely road, some 25 kilometres southwest of London, "is not very well travelled," said Murray Silcox, who runs the general store in Shedden, the closest community of any size. "It's a gravel road."

Still, he wasn't totally surprised to find police investigators at work nearby.

"This stuff happens all the time," he said. "Midnight justice, or whatever you want to call it."

But the scale of the find is unprecedented in modern Ontario history.

Most Ontario mass murders, single incidents involving more than two or three victims, are domestic incidents.

The worst previous mass murder in Ontario occurred July 6, 2000, when 42-year-old Bill Luft of Kitchener stabbed his wife Bohumila and shot dead their four children � Daniel, 7, Nicole, 5, Peter, 2, and three-month-old David � before turning the gun on himself.

One of the worst previous mass murders involving non-related victims came in Ottawa on April 6, 1999, when a disgruntled former transit employee, Pierre Lebrun, shot four transit workers dead in a bus garage before killing himself.

Farmer Rob Monteith, a municipal councillor for the area who lives several kilometres away from where the eight bodies were discovered, expressed the shock and surprise of local residents.

"Oh, I think everybody around here is surprised," he said. "It's a rural road, but it's a pretty well-travelled area."

The road, which is not lit at night, is used by local residents as a shortcut to the Ford plant, Monteith said.

Josie Morton, who lives about six minutes away from where the cars were found, said the find, while shocking, wasn't completely a surprise.

"I've lived in the area my whole life and I've noticed a lot more violent crime reported in London, in nice neighbourhoods," she said. "A lot of it seems to be drug-related. It is shocking, but it's a very isolated area."

Local farms, she said, "are kind of spread out," and it's easy to go unseen in the area, which she described as "secluded."

It's so quiet, in fact, that the sight of a police cruiser with its flashers going is itself an unusual sight.

Charlene Armstrong had just finished an early Easter dinner with her husband, Gary, when she saw an OPP cruiser, flashers alight, speed by.

"It happens so rarely, we knew there was something going on," Armstrong said, adding she even called her mother Monica Oates to tell her about it.

The Armstrongs, who have lived just off Stafford Line for nine years, said they were "shocked" when an OPP officer came to the door with news of the awful discovery, and wondering whether they'd seen anything out of the ordinary.

"We didn't hear anything. The dog didn't bark. Nothing," Armstrong said.

Her husband agreed. "It's a quiet rural community where all the neighbours watch out for each other," he said.

"It's nothing that I'm involved with, or that the community is involved with," he added. "Until we get more information it's all speculation.

"I'm not overly surprised," the man added. "This kind of stuff is creeping more and more into the rural area."

Many residents got the news from reporters.

" I never heard of that. Oh, my God! You're kidding," said Holly Lunn on hearing the news. "That's craziness. I thought there was an accident on the 401," said the woman, who has lived in Shedden all her life.

Carol O'Connor, 50, who spent the day working the check-out line in Shedden's only store, had little information. "I just heard that there was a crime scene back there," she said.


Posted by colonelcrisp on Apr-09-2006 16:33:

my parents farm is 5 mins down the road from this place.... its fucked up. i used to run my 4 wheeler through that guys fields.......


Posted by The Wiz on Apr-09-2006 16:34:

yikes


Posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* on Apr-09-2006 17:07:

Holy crap...wow...I'm interested in seeing how this story pans out.


Posted by colonelcrisp on Apr-09-2006 18:00:

i go home in exactly 20 days. i volunteer to be the official TA correspondant for RR#3 St. Thomas... hell there isnt much else to do back home, as long as this event doesnt cancel the shedden tractor pull or rosy rhubarb this year ill be happy....


Posted by alefort on Apr-09-2006 18:03:

JEBUS........only 45 minutes away from me, yikes..........

Why does it seem nowadays that these murders are much like CSI episodes? The question becomes who inspires who....


Posted by london_ta on Apr-09-2006 19:00:

This place is literally only 10 minutes from my house

Holy F*ck


Posted by alefort on Apr-09-2006 19:48:

Something I just discovered on the site, kinda eery...if someone could explain it would be great:

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...ol=968793972154

Same link as above, but when on the site, look at the section titled RELATED LINKS.

There is one link titled: 'Perfect spot to dump body (Apr. 9)'

Click on it, and it literally displays a map of a PERFECT PLACE TO DUMP BODIES..............

I mean, to see this on a newspaper website to me is just strange...


Posted by infinity HiGH on Apr-09-2006 19:52:

quote:
Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~*
Holy crap...wow...I'm interested in seeing how this story pans out.


I'd be surprised if it does pan out.


Posted by alefort on Apr-09-2006 20:19:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
I'd be surprised if it does pan out.


+1

Canada seems to have this knack of just sweeping murders beneath a rug. They surface at first, but we never hear about them again.


Posted by infinity HiGH on Apr-09-2006 20:26:

quote:
Originally posted by alefort
+1

Canada seems to have this knack of just sweeping murders beneath a rug. They surface at first, but we never hear about them again.


That's not what I was thinking...

...it's almost blatantly obvious that organized crime is involved in this, and if anyone watched Sopranos, they'd know how these things usually "pan" out, lol

But seriously, if this is tied to organized crime then don't expect to ever find out what really happend.


Posted by lopi on Apr-10-2006 00:32:

that makes me sick. i cant believe someone has the capacity to do that to another human being


Posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* on Apr-11-2006 01:29:

quote:
Originally posted by alefort
+1

Canada seems to have this knack of just sweeping murders beneath a rug. They surface at first, but we never hear about them again.


Ya...like in that article...it talks about how there were 2 previous deaths in years past...both unexplained.


Posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* on Apr-11-2006 01:31:

quote:
Originally posted by alefort
Something I just discovered on the site, kinda eery...if someone could explain it would be great:

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...ol=968793972154

Same link as above, but when on the site, look at the section titled RELATED LINKS.

There is one link titled: 'Perfect spot to dump body (Apr. 9)'

Click on it, and it literally displays a map of a PERFECT PLACE TO DUMP BODIES..............

I mean, to see this on a newspaper website to me is just strange...


THere were 4 links, but none of them were this...


Posted by alefort on Apr-11-2006 01:34:

quote:
Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~*
THere were 4 links, but none of them were this...


Just checked, turns out they renamed the link to : Location (GoogleMaps)

HAHAHAHA, I tell you, it did say what I mentioned earlier.....I am guessing someone was having fun with the headlines...


Posted by Jem_hadar on Apr-11-2006 01:46:

Honestly, I heard about this ALL day, on the hour, every hour at work.

Wow - so unbelieable to actually hear about - and so close to home.

They're calling it a "cleaning out of the ranks".... all the dead were members of the biker gang, or those trying to come up into it... and the murders were done by the gang itself too! WOW.

I fell like im hearing about a real-life Sopranos incident. Unreal.

Jem


Posted by Chris Allen on Apr-11-2006 04:29:

quote:
Originally posted by colonelcrisp
i go home in exactly 20 days. i volunteer to be the official TA correspondant for RR#3 St. Thomas...

My Dad is one of the lead investigators in the scene in question.

He'll be busy for quite some time I assume.


Posted by shanny on Apr-11-2006 05:07:

They're saying today that this is the result of an internal cleansing done by the biker gang the banditos.
I guess one of the guys who was killed was targeted for an assasination a few years ago as well.

Today on City Pulse they had people writting in letters about it, and soemone wrote a letter saying that he used to be in a biker gang. His comments were that regular citizens didn't have to worry about anything, unless they tried to interfere with biker business, and in that case they would be taken care of.
Some crazy shit if you ask me.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Apr-11-2006 05:14:

They sullied an Infiniti FX45


Posted by Irishaddict on Apr-11-2006 05:16:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
They sullied an Infiniti FX45


lol yup, one Infiniti on the used car market soon.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Apr-11-2006 05:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Irishaddict
lol yup, one Infiniti on the used car market soon.


Yeah I've got a broker on the lookout for cheap FX45s.


Posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* on Apr-11-2006 06:16:

quote:
Originally posted by alefort
Just checked, turns out they renamed the link to : Location (GoogleMaps)

HAHAHAHA, I tell you, it did say what I mentioned earlier.....I am guessing someone was having fun with the headlines...



So it really isn't a map of where to drop dead bodies? They were just showing the location of where these were found?



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