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Posted by Subtle on Apr-10-2006 11:17:

Madonna - Frozen (Subtara Remix)

so i finished a remix i long have wanted to do, it doesnt give justice to the original but it gives it a slighlty different approach..

Lenght: 11:06
Bitrate: 320 kbps
link:

Madonna - Frozen (Subtara Remix)

i hope u like it


Posted by RickyM on Apr-10-2006 11:49:

Hey Subtle , long time mate

This is excellent, very nice atmosphere you create here, you work the vocals very nicely man. This is your best since Maranjana, possibly even better than that.
Nice and full sounding track, the music is perfect for the vocals.
Good to have you back mate

Ricky


Posted by Dj Cola on Apr-10-2006 12:57:

really nice mood youve got it this tune!
vocals comes in pretty unprepared i think.

like the piano, i can hear you liked doing this .
nice break!
alot of nice parts in this.
pizzi is cool .


nice track!


Posted by Subtle on Apr-10-2006 13:31:

thank u very much Cola and Ricky..


Posted by Klangzentrum on Apr-10-2006 13:36:

nice work, pooptle! your rythms always blow me away...


Posted by mavve on Apr-10-2006 13:39:

Cool tune man this reminds me of my own trax hahaha. I like the groovy atmosphere but i feel theres to much paned to the left, or im geting def in the right ear.i realy like it when the vocal kicks in it gets darker and more melow but I feel it came in to suden you didnt present it =( but it works, and I love the MMMMMM part the pads there are great I cant complain on this and you know im a complainer! good mix , Nice tune,nice prod, and good sound quality. arangments cant be better than this =)
keep it up and drop a coment on my new track idea . Endless can be found in here some where! - Cheers - Mavve


Posted by cybernetica on Apr-10-2006 18:29:

Hey,
commenting as I listen...

The beat is great. All those hats, bongos and stuff works so well together. Feels totally "real" and professional.
The kick is nice, but maybe its a slight bit too loud, at least on my speakers.
Awesome job with the vocals. Maybe they start a little too suddenly, dont know if its possible to introduce them more subtlely.
The chorus is BIG, really. I didnt think you would use this chord progression, it doesnt sound predictable as I first thought it would

I dont think I can give you any real ciriticism. The overall sound feels full and very smooth, also thanks for sharing 320.
Great work as always!


Posted by Effero on Apr-10-2006 18:45:

Fat kick, a little too much for my taste. It's so loud that it's distoring. What can I say, some may like it. The song is mixed well except...well I gotta be honest with you, that kick is getting on my nerves. I like the rest of the elements, well produced and driving, but....I just can't listen anymore, the kick has kicked my a..
Effero


Posted by kopi_luwak on Apr-10-2006 18:52:

LOL, ,madonna, my always beloved Madonna, excellent job I really enjoyed ur remix, good to see you posting some new and fresh stuff foker .
Kopi =o.


Posted by Lakeus on Apr-10-2006 22:04:

Hey... I must say that I�m digging the track, it�s a nice chilled out version of an unbelievable song. I personally think that with "the power of good bye" this is madonna�s best song ever.

You�ve done a good job remixing the track. I like especially the breakbeat part ( which begins at 7:00 ) I�m not too fond of the pizzicatos, imo they sound too simple... Overall a really good remix, the beat is superb.

Cheers, Lakeus

www.lakeusmusic.com


Posted by Salegon on Apr-10-2006 23:04:

Well done. Modanna's vocals work perfectly with trance imho.

I'm really looking forward to a remix of "nothing really matters", 'cuz that's my favourite track of her.


Posted by JoeyEnv on Apr-10-2006 23:10:

Excellent stuff. Personally, I have no problem this end with the kick. Sounds just right to me.

Brilliant tune. Onto the ipod.

Also, I dont know if anyone picked up on this but the vocals sound kind of shaky.


Posted by Subtle on Apr-10-2006 23:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Klangzentrum
nice work, pooptle! your rythms always blow me away...
been talking to kopi a bit too much now ? thx though

quote:
Originally posted by mavve Cool tune man this reminds me of my own trax hahaha. I like the groovy atmosphere but i feel theres to much paned to the left, or im geting def in the right ear.i realy like it when the vocal kicks in it gets darker and more melow but I feel it came in to suden you didnt present it =( but it works, and I love the MMMMMM part the pads there are great I cant complain on this and you know im a complainer! good mix , Nice tune,nice prod, and good sound quality. arangments cant be better than this =)
thx Maave, i hope ur not going deaf on the right ear..

quote:
Originally posted by cybernetica Hey,
commenting as I listen...

The beat is great. All those hats, bongos and stuff works so well together. Feels totally "real" and professional.
The kick is nice, but maybe its a slight bit too loud, at least on my speakers.
Awesome job with the vocals. Maybe they start a little too suddenly, dont know if its possible to introduce them more subtlely.
The chorus is BIG, really. I didnt think you would use this chord progression, it doesnt sound predictable as I first thought it would

I dont think I can give you any real ciriticism. The overall sound feels full and very smooth, also thanks for sharing 320.
Great work as always!
thx, vocal chorus ?

quote:
Originally posted by Effero Fat kick, a little too much for my taste. It's so loud that it's distoring. What can I say, some may like it. The song is mixed well except...well I gotta be honest with you, that kick is getting on my nerves. I like the rest of the elements, well produced and driving, but....I just can't listen anymore, the kick has kicked my a..
Effero
hehe.. yeah the kick is pretty heavy and the bassline is pretty thin, i noticed alot of tracks are this way so i thought i`d try it too... i guess the kick doesnt sound as neat on all systems.. abit of overdoing the compression or something ..

quote:
Originally posted by Kopi Luwak LOL, ,madonna, my always beloved Madonna, excellent job I really enjoyed ur remix, good to see you posting some new and fresh stuff foker .
Kopi =o.
thanks.. Slugger

quote:
Originally posted by Lakeus Hey... I must say that I�m digging the track, it�s a nice chilled out version of an unbelievable song. I personally think that with "the power of good bye" this is madonna�s best song ever.

You�ve done a good job remixing the track. I like especially the breakbeat part ( which begins at 7:00 ) I�m not too fond of the pizzicatos, imo they sound too simple... Overall a really good remix, the beat is superb.

Cheers, Lakeus
yeah, alot of awesome tracks that came out of that Ray Of Light album.. thx for listening..

quote:
Originally posted by Salegon Well done. Modanna's vocals work perfectly with trance imho.

I'm really looking forward to a remix of "nothing really matters", 'cuz that's my favourite track of her
yeah great track.. with a clean acapella i wouldnt mind trying a remix of that one either

quote:
Originally posted by JoeyEnv Excellent stuff. Personally, I have no problem this end with the kick. Sounds just right to me.

Brilliant tune. Onto the ipod.

Also, I dont know if anyone picked up on this but the vocals sound kind of shaky.
i noticed that actually, due to timestretch maybe ?


Posted by eRRaTiK on Apr-10-2006 23:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Klangzentrum
pooptle!




good job with this one. needs a higher bpm


Posted by Subtle on Apr-11-2006 00:09:

quote:
Originally posted by eRRaTiK
good job with this one. needs a higher bpm
thank u very much, im very comfortable at the tempo though.. dunno why..


Posted by sterilis on Apr-11-2006 00:47:

really liking this track mate. although i agree with mavve on the more pan to the left. sort feels like the track drags to the left. other than that great listen.

nice work!


Posted by Mr Rogers on Apr-11-2006 02:12:

great track..vocals stick out a little to much for me but top notch everything else!


Posted by IntegraR0064 on Apr-12-2006 03:57:

This is really good....a few suggestions though.

-The vocals would be better if added a little less abruptly.
-I would rather the vocals didn't stick out from the mix so much in the first vocal section. It's a bit better for the rest of the track where more stuff is going on, but in the beginning I feel like the vocals are definitely too loud.
-Personally I would have a little bit less vocals total. Honestly I think they take away a little bit from the beauty of the track.
-I would shorten the track a bit...cut out 2 minutes or so from the last section. The end gets a little repetitive.


Other than those things, this track if freakin' epic. You can definitely tell that you were enjoying yourself during the piano part, and that makes the track even better. Good stuff...


As a side note, the kick sounds fine to me. Definitely on the fat/loud side but I tend to like that.


Posted by linkmage on Apr-12-2006 07:36:

Hi,
I want to start from bad things....

Your bass is weak maybe bigger compression will help for that.
Also I think that vocal start a bit forthright...I think you can do fade in with some effect,or maybe at the beginning you could put one or two phrazes...thats only my opinion

Good things

Timbres ar nice,I like 80's snare...thats cool.
I like Atmosphere
I like long bass drones.

Memorable,deep,cathcy,trippy...



9/10

Birdie


Posted by BOOsTER on Apr-12-2006 15:19:

I'll agree with what has been said...

but I would definitely change kick/bass...one of these is too loud, that makes the other too silent you know what I mean?

Also I think that for track like this is your kick a bit too prominent...some darker kick would do better here...IMHO

otherwise it's cool and catchy

peace,

B.


Posted by Nomen Nescio on Apr-12-2006 18:13:

Hey Subtle,

Very nice groove directly from the start on, even though the kick is horrific. I love all the other percs in the beginning stages of the track, very funky.

The vocals are introduced too loud in the track. Reverbwise they do not sound nice either.

Melodywise I love what you do around the vocals. I still do not like the vocals in the mix a lot. The vocals in combination with the kick make the track sound as if you recorded the track in a small can.

The break is nice, that lead you introduce is soundwise nice as well but you keep it really small and dry. That seems to be a trademark of yours. In other tracks you also have very dry sounds. I think you could focus on making some main melodic elements sound wider, more atmospheric instead of canned and small if you understand what I mean. For someone who only uses that superb hardware you should be able to do that. Even some simple vst's sound wider and fuller

Overall a good track where the inspiration is clearly audible but some of the elements just lack the richness to really label this as very professional stuff. Also masteringwise there is still room for improvement.

Cheers mate!


Posted by Takkra on Apr-12-2006 21:14:

its a really nice track sounds really clean !! how the fuck do you guys do that .. great groove ! I like the hmmming parts!! just.. the vocals seems a bit out of place they dont feel "nice" hehe something funny too try to imagine a bubbling beat underneath


Posted by Subtle on Apr-14-2006 15:17:

dj_kane: hehe.. it definitely drags to the left a bit..

Mr Rogers: vocals re a bit dry yeah, didnt want to take a chance of ruining them totally

IntegraR0064: i agree about the vocals.. its definitely too long, i always make em too long..

linkmage: yeah i agree about the bass.. its a one osc from the Trilogy with a bit of low end EQ.. i choose too make a weak bass glad u liked it

Booster: thanks, kick is heavy yeah

Normen Nescio: thanks for great feedback.. i should definitely work on making more flow in the sounds, making them wetter indeed.. thanks

Takkra: thank u.. vocals are a bitch..


Posted by Stino on Apr-14-2006 15:25:

percussion is excellent but kick is too heavy, there is also some noise in the background. Bass/kick/ and that snare clap doesnt sound good to me, sounds forced together. Percussion is becoming a bit messy now, too many elements. I dont like the use of the vocal at all, sounds hollow and empty and just been placed on top of the tune without any creativity, looking to stuttering, reversing, FX or what so ever. Break, sounds empty, i miss some nice full warm pads and FX. Some sounds sound a bit simplistic to be honest, like the piano kinda thing during the intro, and most of the synths in general (fruityloops?) I like the melodies .


Posted by Stino on Apr-14-2006 15:25:

percussion is excellent but kick is too heavy, there is also some noise in the background. Bass/kick/ and that snare clap doesnt sound good to me, sounds forced together. Percussion is becoming a bit messy now, too many elements. I dont like the use of the vocal at all, sounds hollow and empty and just been placed on top of the tune without any creativity, looking to stuttering, reversing, FX or what so ever. Break, sounds empty, i miss some nice full warm pads and FX. Some sounds sound a bit simplistic to be honest, like the piano kinda thing during the intro, and most of the synths in general (fruityloops?) I like the melodies .


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