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is it illegal?

is it illegal to play a song that is not yet released in a club?

for example, if youre a nobody and play a song that the full version is still unreleased. but lets say u got a mix compilation CD that has that song in it and you can manage it to mix it in your set. is that considered legal or illegal?

I have two responses to that:

a) You ARE somebody. The difference between famous DJs and beginner DJs is how much work, passion and time they put into their craft. There is no other distinction there -- famous DJs play by the same laws as regular folks.

b) If you bought the CD or MP3 legitimately, you can use it in your sets. I wouldn't advise you to mix from a DJ CD (because it has already been heavily processed/mastered for that mix), but you can technically do it if you want to.

There is no law that says "You can't mix songs that aren't in the club yet"


Take care.

by saying nobody, i meant just a local dj. i said that so to mean that the song wasnt given to u earlier by the artist for u to play.

how about a set that u downloaded online? like lets say asot or tatw or whatever set by someone who uploads the mix on this page.

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Originally posted by stefanoc how about a set that u downloaded online? like lets say asot or tatw or whatever set by someone who uploads the mix on this page.

That would be illegal as you have not paid for it. Some of the producers in the Music Productions area will give you permission to play THEIR productions even if you don't pay for it, however ripping a song out of an ASOT or any other radio show for that matter, to play out, would be deemed illegal.

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Originally posted by J:\Digital That would be illegal as you have not paid for it. Some of the producers in the Music Productions area will give you permission to play THEIR productions even if you don't pay for it, however ripping a song out of an ASOT or any other radio show for that matter, to play out, would be deemed illegal.

It would sound shitty too.

No it's not illegal and is not dependent on fame to play unreleased stuff. It's called a PROMO (not for sale)! You receive them in the mail and via the wisdom of the turntables you are in essence promoting their single.

Are we talking about an unreleased track thats on a compilation cd, an unreleased track in an online radio show (i.e. asot), or a promo given to you by the producer?

and which of those are legal to play in a club?

ok let me restate me question

forget about quality. lets say any set you download online is 100% clear.

now would it be legal for me or any other dj to play a song from that mix compilation (it could be a weekly radio show or any mix) that is unreleased? i havent paid for the mix but its out there for the public.

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Originally posted by stefanoc ok let me restate me question forget about quality. lets say any set you download online is 100% clear. now would it be legal for me or any other dj to play a song from that mix compilation (it could be a weekly radio show or any mix) that is unreleased? i havent paid for the mix but its out there for the public.

It is illegal to play something out in a club if you have obtained it without either paying for it or getting the artist's permission. It doesn't matter if it's an ASOT set, a set PVD spun at Cream, or even a single MP3.

Unless you obtained it legally, you cannot play it out.

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Originally posted by idoru It is illegal to play something out in a club if you have obtained it without either paying for it or getting the artist's permission. It doesn't matter if it's an ASOT set, a set PVD spun at Cream, or even a single MP3. Unless you obtained it legally, you cannot play it out.

I thought I made this statement earlier regarding live sets???

O/P read!

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Originally posted by J:\Digital I thought I made this statement earlier regarding live sets??? O/P read!

I know, but he asked the question again, so I figured telling him once more couldn't hurt.

^^thanks

i got your message earlier, but just wanted a second opinion. it never hurts. and some people were getting confused and getting out of subject.

how about if i purchase a mix compilation like lets say ISOS? lets say i bought the CD and play a song off of the CD in the club. is that now considered legal?

now lets say that the song i played off of ISOS is out for purchase online and on vinyl/CD single. now would playing the song off of ISOS still be considered?

and how about if the song i played is an unreleased track?

for artists that make music and let you download it (music promotion forums), i always ask for permission if they will let me play it.

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Originally posted by stefanoc ^^thanks i got your message earlier, but just wanted a second opinion. it never hurts. and some people were getting confused and getting out of subject. how about if i purchase a mix compilation like lets say ISOS? lets say i bought the CD and play a song off of the CD in the club. is that now considered legal? now lets say that the song i played off of ISOS is out for purchase online and on vinyl/CD single. now would playing the song off of ISOS still be considered? and how about if the song i played is an unreleased track?

Personally, I wouldnt play anything I didnt pick up at the record store, unless I had permission from the artist to play it out... (if it was a promo for say, from a local producer or something)

I guess it depends on the situation, but I would say a large factor in DJ etiquette is not playing stuff you arent supposed to play... If it feels iffy, it probably is.

yes, i *think* you can play stuff out of mixcd's, but uhhm, it's still ghetto to do that

its not ghetto if u manage to do a good job.

hell, havent u ever liked an unreleased track so much that u wanted to play?

Well if what that one guy said is true and the mixes on ASOT 2006 are ALMOST A MINUTE LONG then you have alot of the original track to play with.

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