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Dual Monitors vs Large Single?
well, work has been going EXTREMELY well for me and after investing most of it i decided it was finally time to upgrade my studio set up.
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primarily these two clunky ass 17" CRT monitors i've been using. I was originally just goin to purchase 2 17" LCD's when i got to thinking how many apple studio's i see with one large 20"-24"...
obviously i'm just gonna go screw around in guitar center to see, but anyone make the switch to one big monitor instead of 2 ?
Hey. I made a switch from 2 x 19crt to 1 x 24 inch wide lcd. Never going back to crt for studio work again. I started using cubase window sets to switch between full arrrangement view, mixer, and effects/vst, and It works pretty good. But the problem is that you can never have enough space. I woudn't mind 2 x 24 inch. but it's expensive... But if I had to choose between 2 x 17 or 1 x 24 i take 24 any day.. Check my studio pics for a screenshots ( My webpage button ) .
that's what i'm worried about... 2 x 17 is barely enough work space for me...
i can always add a 3rd if i get there but to add 2 x 24 is really expensive.
well, this decision is getting easier
im only going for 1 19inch lcd but i only use reason3 so i dont need 2 19inch i will look into 24inch though.
I was thinking of going 1x24 inch vs. dual 19 inch LCDs, but I just couldn't justify spending that much for 1 LCD. I ended up spending $600 for 2x19 inch LCDs with 8ms response time(you won't find that on the larger ones). Also, depending on what video card you have you may not be able to use the entire display(they require support of widescreen resolution, not sure the pixel dimensions off hand). I am currently debating two more (with another videocard) and mounting two on top.
Personally I don't think it is worth spending the cash for one 24 inch when you can get three 19 inch ones for the same price with the same response time. It is a matter of preference though, and having a little gap between 2 screens is a bit annoying, especially in apps like Live where you can't move most of the windows around. It all depends how much you want to spend not to have that gap there.
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| Originally posted by mzvirbulis im only going for 1 19inch lcd but i only use reason3 so i dont need 2 19inch i will look into 24inch though. |
djdirty, wow!!! i'm very envious of your setup, that looks very closely to my ideal space! btw. do you notice a big difference since placing the foam pads? (i'm assuming auralex?)
the only difference is i'm prolly going to go for 2x19" lcds. but the jerker desk from ikea looks very convieniant (do the speakers seam sturdy on those flaps?) i'm prolly going to invest in that desk...the only main differnce for my setup is i'm investing in the novation remote sl61 (can't wait)...it definately must be a joy working in that space!
2x19" LCD for the win. The 24" displays are beautiful, but 2 19"s do the trick. Plenty of space to throw windows about.
To each his own though.
i have got just one 19"LCD, which is enough for me, using FL...you guys are just too lazy to switch windows! 
Since i have no money im just using my current laptop LCD (15.4" widescreen) and a 17" CRT moniter that was lying around.
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| Originally posted by djbruuen djdirty, wow!!! i'm very envious of your setup, that looks very closely to my ideal space! btw. do you notice a big difference since placing the foam pads? (i'm assuming auralex?) the only difference is i'm prolly going to go for 2x19" lcds. but the jerker desk from ikea looks very convieniant (do the speakers seam sturdy on those flaps?) i'm prolly going to invest in that desk...the only main differnce for my setup is i'm investing in the novation remote sl61 (can't wait)...it definately must be a joy working in that space! |
It has some home made ceiling (real traps) as well. that's my next purchase, along the Prosonus fader port(miss my mackie controller)I should say I miss a real fader for use in cubase. I need a good controller, I can't work on a 49 key. I am use to 61-76 controllers. Novation SL is really in the ligue of it's own with all the functionality and quality of it's keyboard, and key action. I am gonna update the studio pics sometimes tonight with some higher quality ones, and of the current setup.You're welcome to stop by and check it out
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| Originally posted by Klangzentrum i have got just one 19"LCD, which is enough for me, using FL...you guys are just too lazy to switch windows! |
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| Originally posted by DJDIRTY Hey djbruuen! Well the foam makes all the diefferance in the world in that room. In fact it's day and night diefferance. That room is the best sounding in the whole house It has some home made ceiling (real traps) as well. About the desk. It's pretty chap, and it's great. You can add those speaker shelves for like $40 bucks , and they are pretty sturdy. They hold my monitor's without a problem. I eaven tried putting both my monitor's on the shelves at the same time, and they hold up. I also like the idea of adjustable desk top. It's really good for what you pay for it. And novation sl 61 that's my next purchase, along the Prosonus fader port(miss my mackie controller)I should say I miss a real fader for use in cubase. I need a good controller, I can't work on a 49 key. I am use to 61-76 controllers. Novation SL is really in the ligue of it's own with all the functionality and quality of it's keyboard, and key action. I am gonna update the studio pics sometimes tonight with some higher quality ones, and of the current setup.You're welcome to stop by and check it out |
gives me some inspiration on how i'm setting thing up. the novation sl61 had me drooling when i first saw it, having lcd's to specify what you're controlling is worth the money along...plus all the extras like automapping vsts, aftertouch which is rare on most, and an abundance of knobs etc. Will definately allow for the 'hardware' feel on software
1x 24" LCD = 1920x1200 desktop space (less width, more height, no gap)
2x 19" LCD = 2560x1024 desktop space (more width, less height, gap in between)
In all honesty, I'd still go for the 2x 19" LCD's - width means more to me than height, and I don't really mind having a gap. 2x 24" LCD's on the other hand.......Yum!
hooray 15'' G4 Powerbooks. :-)
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| Originally posted by aquila 1x 24" LCD = 1920x1200 desktop space (less width, more height, no gap) 2x 19" LCD = 2560x1024 desktop space (more width, less height, gap in between) In all honesty, I'd still go for the 2x 19" LCD's - width means more to me than height, and I don't really mind having a gap. 2x 24" LCD's on the other hand.......Yum! |
^ nice pics what are your comp. specs? i definately won't be able to afford it this year, but maybe next, i hope to have 2 computers networked together to maximize efficiency
the thing that sets me back the most is my space is in an open living room. really really sux. living with parents creates limitations 
i can't wait til i get my own house in a few years after saying for a downpayment (luckily i got out of university dept free :cool. Theres nothing more inspirational than having a good space. I'm going to create a jungle theme when i construct my studio - dark hardwood floors, dusty green walls, and pot lights in the cieling! and then a lot of 'jungle stuff' 
in a couple years if my vision comes true i'll have to post the pics
i use a single 17" TFT GNR, im a happy man.
Hi djbruuen.
For my computer specs.... I got an intel p4 2.66ghz with 2 gigs of ram, 2 hard drives, and 1 external backup drive. Got the zeelman cpu heat sink, it's not that loud, and i've put in some of the quieter fans, But stil the Hard drives makes noise and stuff, So I wanna move the machine to another room, and just run cables from there. That should be no problems since I only would need 4 usb extensions and one monitor extension. For the audio interface I use RME multiface. I need 4 stereo inn's plus I wanted to step up from M audio stuff. Video card is a n-vidia 6200 128 meg, fanless. I sold my TC powercore, since I didn't really need, it, and I have a virus c, so keeping the virus vst was pointless for me. So i got only the video card and one pci card in there.. System runs pretty good, but with some of the stuff today it's outdated, and slow. My gaming machine witch is an amd 64 4000+ puts it to shame.. But i know how to get around some of the limitations so it's not bad. And another plus is that I use alot of the hardware synths, so they don't take cpu, only vst effects, and some vsti do. I try to keep it balanced. I also don't go on the net with that machine at all. I do have it connected to a router just in case, if i wanteed to send something from my other computer, but the cable is unplugged. I don't use any anti virus, don't need it. It's basically all for producing. Never had it crush on me, and maintnance in only a defragmentation once every 3 weeks, depending how much I record.. I am thinking about an upgrade, but just waiting for the prices to drop down a bit. Cuple friends already moved to duall core systems, and it's a huge improvement. I will probably look into something like an amd 64 x2 4400, don't need more.. A project that was at 80% running on my machine was at 18% on theirs in cubase sx3, and that gives me so much more room to play. So I guess 4400 x2 amd is enough for me, and for what I do.. Should last me for a long time to come. I am not really thinking about upgraing to the new windows operating system on my audio machine , and with my current software and hardware arsenal I can do anything, That about 14 years ago when I first started this hobby was somwhat only a dream.
If you are running reason don't forget you can rotate many 20 and 24" screens. Looks funky, but can give you realestate where it counts.
2 x 20" is far better than one 24" if you ask me.
2 x19" is a tougher call.
If you can spare the extra slot 3 x Screens rocks.. :-)
If you are running reason don't forget you can rotate many 20 and 24" screens. Looks funky, but can give you realestate where it counts.
2 x 20" is far better than one 24" if you ask me.
2 x19" is a tougher call.
If you can spare the extra slot 3 x Screens rocks.. :-)
thats cool djdirty...i aswell don't have mine connected to the internet, (i just use a usb jump drive to transport files as needed) and i disabled anything fancy in windows to improve performance. 80% to 18% sounds really good. I agree that i'd avoid the new windows OS. XP works fine and i'm not going to be trusting of something that may be unstable in its preliminary phase. At least wait until the bugs have been ironed out and if any substantial improvements are there. I however am all software, so don't have the luxory of dividing my cpu load. I used to have hardware, but its completly dated based on the the stuff i use now. At this point, i rather invest in 4gb ram opposed to buying more hardware.
I upgraded from dual 20" to a single 24" (both dell) mainly because of the sweet spot, before I used to have cubase mixer and lots of plugins open in the second window.
I've got a couple of 19" CRTs and find their resolution of 1280x1024 is not that useful as usually it's just one program or window on each screen. And 1280x1024 is still the most common 19" LCD resolution. More pixels would be better and the LCDs are capable of that.
Waiting for cheaper wide-screen LCDs with more pixels, next year probably. I think one big wide-screen is probably better than two smaller cheaper screens.
I've got a 15" old-shape notebook screen running 1400x1050 and that's a nice size, the LCD colour is not as good as CRT but it's sharper and for most things the sharpness is more important. If that type of resolution was available on a 20 or 22" LCD well that would be A LOT of pixels!
Hey djbruuen
Going software also crossed my mind at one point, But I was brought up with hardware synths, and it's that I would miss it. It's a matter of preferance thease days, since the software sounds good thease days. You just need to know what to use in order for the soft synths to sound better. The best thing to do is to just run a vst thrue a stereo tube preamp. That alone makes a huge diefferance, giving the software sound the extra edge, and bottom some of them lack. That's why hosts such as cubase sx3 are good for this stuff, since you can route all vst's thrue the hardware preamp without a mixer, just using inputs of your soundcard, (that if you have at list a spare set of 1 stereo in/out). Have you ever heard of the spl Charisma 2, that thing makes the vsti synths sound so good you wouldn't tell a diefferance if it was hardware or a software synth if you run it thrue that. I heard that thing in action at this guys place, and was blown avay. I am seriously thinking of integrating that into my studio, and running all my soft synths and hardware thrue that, when I save some money for it
I use to have a focusrite twin track pro, and eaven thrue that the sound of the vsti's become more alive, and closer to hardware. Like I said it's one way to make a vsti sound better, and a lot of producers are doing it. It's something you learn once you're in this music thing for a while.
Anyway's here is a link to the SPL tube unit. Check it out if you want. LINK
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