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Take a look at this and let me know what you guys think, pretty disturbing stuff:

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EDIT: ^^^ Link fixed.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Take a look at this and let me know what you guys think, pretty disturbing stuff: >> Video << EDIT: ^^^ Link fixed.

the media player window loads, but nothing loads inside it

^^^ Seems to be working fine in my browser.

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China: Rampant Violence and Intimidation Against Petitioners Officials and �Retrievers� Block Citizens� Complaints (Hong Kong, December 8, 2005) � Thousands of citizens who petition Chinese authorities for the redress of grievances are attacked, beaten, threatened, and intimidated, Human Rights Watch said in a new report released today. Activists and representatives trying to help petitioners are also beaten and arrested...

The rest of it:

Source:Human Rights Watch

thats f**king horrible. i wanna say governments like that only last for so long...but it's China.

human organ farms. cadaver harvesting. sex slavery. forced abortion. forced adoption. opium trafficing. what else?

wouldnt it be great if every country had nuclear weapons and every government would be allowed to do this to its citizens?

I thought that this was pretty great:

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Chinese President Hu Jintao got almost everything he wanted out of yesterday's visit to the White House. He got the 21-gun salute, the review of the troops and the Colonial fife-and-drum corps. He got the exchange of toasts and a meal of wild-caught Alaskan halibut with mushroom essence, $50 chardonnay and live bluegrass music. And he got an Oval Office photo op with President Bush, who nodded and smiled as if he understood Chinese while Hu spoke. If only the White House hadn't given press credentials to a Falun Gong activist who five years ago heckled Hu's predecessor, Jiang Zemin, in Malta. Sure enough, 90 seconds into Hu's speech on the South Lawn, the woman started shrieking, "President Hu, your days are numbered!" and "President Bush, stop him from killing!" Bush and Hu looked up, stunned. It took so long to silence her -- a full three minutes -- that Bush aides began to wonder if the Secret Service's strategy was to let her scream herself hoarse. The rattled Chinese president haltingly attempted to continue his speech and television coverage went to split screen. "You're okay," Bush gently reassured Hu. But he wasn't okay, not really. The protocol-obsessed Chinese leader suffered a day full of indignities -- some intentional, others just careless. The visit began with a slight when the official announcer said the band would play the "national anthem of the Republic of China" -- the official name of Taiwan. It continued when Vice President Cheney donned sunglasses for the ceremony, and again when Hu, attempting to leave the stage via the wrong staircase, was yanked back by his jacket. Hu looked down at his sleeve to see the president of the United States tugging at it as if redirecting an errant child. Then there were the intentional slights. China wanted a formal state visit such as Jiang got, but the administration refused, calling it instead an "official" visit. Bush acquiesced to the 21-gun salute but insisted on a luncheon instead of a formal dinner, in the East Room instead of the State Dining Room. Even the visiting country's flags were missing from the lampposts near the White House. But as protocol breaches go, it's hard to top the heckling of a foreign leader at the White House. Explaining the incident -- the first disruption at the executive mansion in recent memory -- White House and Secret Service officials said she was "a legitimate journalist" and that there was nothing suspicious in her background. In other words: Who knew? Hu did. The Chinese had warned the White House to be careful about who was admitted to the ceremony. To no avail: They granted a one-day pass to Wang Wenyi of the Falun Gong publication Epoch Times. A quick Nexis search shows that in 2001, she slipped through a security cordon in Malta protecting Jiang (she had been denied media credentials) and got into an argument with him. The 47-year-old pathologist is expected to be charged today with attempting to harass a foreign official. Bush apologized to the angry Chinese leader in the Oval Office. "Frankly, we moved on," National Security Council official Dennis Wilder told reporters later. It was, he said, a "momentary blip." Maybe, but Hu was in no mood to make concessions. In negotiations, he gave the U.S. side nothing tangible on delicate matters such as the nuclear problems in North Korea and Iran, the Chinese currency's value and the trade deficit with China. Wilder pleaded for understanding. "Some people today want to see a quick fix to the trade imbalance," he explained. "But in the new global economy there is no quick fix." In the arrival ceremony, Bush, after leading Hu on a review of the troops, welcomed him to the White House. Hu clapped for himself. He was less enthusiastic about the long list of demands Bush made in his welcome speech: expand Chinese consumption of U.S. goods, enforce intellectual property rights, and allow freedom to assemble, speak and worship. Hu's reply was overshadowed by what the White House transcript politely called an "audience interruption," as if somebody had sneezed. The meeting in the Oval Office brought more of the same. In front of the cameras, Bush thanked Hu for his "frankness" -- diplomatic code for disagreement -- and Hu stood expressionless. The two unexpectedly agreed to take questions from reporters, but Bush grew impatient as Hu gave a long answer about trade, made all the longer by the translation. Bush at one point tapped his foot on the ground. "It was a very comprehensive answer," he observed when Hu finished. Last came the unofficial state luncheon. After the butter heirloom corn broth and the ginger-scented dumplings had been consumed, Hu rose with a toast that proclaimed he and Bush had "reached a broad and important agreement on China-U.S. relations." The White House didn't see it that way. Instead of a statement about a new accord with China, it issued a press release titled "MEDICARE CHECK-UP: Prescription Drug Benefit Enrollment Hits 30 Million . . . ."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...6042001946.html

I saw the footage on the news tonight, and that woman kept on shouting even when the secret service guys tried to muzzle her and lead her away. Great to see, really.

Yeah that was great done by her! I'm too suprised though by how long time it took for them to get rid of her...

Glad that it might give some attention to a very serious problem though

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Originally posted by Q5echo thats f**king horrible. i wanna say governments like that only last for so long...but it's China. human organ farms. cadaver harvesting. sex slavery. forced abortion. forced adoption. opium trafficing. what else?

I know.

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Originally posted by Nou We should go to war with them!

lol, we won't. They are becomming a very strong economic power, and we will ally ourselves with them because it's all about the money... Sad shit right there.

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Originally posted by Marc Summers lol, we won't. They are becomming a very strong economic power, and we will ally ourselves with them

not if they invade Taiwan. we tolerate them as an economic superpower and thats it. to not would be economic suicide. militarily, we have been fighting a mild cold war with them for decades.

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Originally posted by Q5echo not if they invade Taiwan. we tolerate them as an economic superpower and thats it. to not would be economic suicide. militarily, we have been fighting a mild cold war with them for decades.

I remember last year they shot missles over taiwan as a warning. I just don't understand some countries...

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Originally posted by Q5echo not if they invade Taiwan. we tolerate them as an economic superpower and thats it. to not would be economic suicide. militarily, we have been fighting a mild cold war with them for decades.

Q5echo you should know better. China will never invade taiwan while the US continue to has the worlds strongest air force and navy. The chinese are waiting patiently to make their move and unfortuantely for them we will have the strongest military for another decade or so.

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid Q5echo you should know better. China will never invade taiwan while the US continue to has the worlds strongest air force and navy. The chinese are waiting patiently to make their move and unfortuantely for them we will have the strongest military for another decade or so.

oh i agree, somewhat, with that. what exactly did i say that contradicted your reply? nothing i don't think. we've made our position clear (publicly anyway) with regards to Taiwan. they have made theirs (publicly). meanwhile they continue to dump unprecidented percentages of their alarmingly increasing GDP into a military that, on the surface, looks like an invading force to be reckoned with. and if you follow what we've done with respect to force projection and protection in the Pacific to counter like i do, nothing looks more likely. but ya never know.

a lot of it though is head games. the two kids on the block with the biggest ballsacs testing each other.

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Originally posted by Nou We should go to war with them! If not for those reasons, then for my sick sexual fantasys about massive armed conflict. *fap*

Yeah, a war between China and the US would be awesome! Just out of curiosity, if you're so enamoured with war, then why aren't you signing up for the marines instead of posting mastabatory fastasies about warfare on the internet?

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Originally posted by Renegade

A follow up to your post:

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Woman Defends Heckling Chinese President By FOSTER KLUG, Associated Press Writer2 hours, 45 minutes ago The woman who heckled Chinese President Hu Jintao during a White House ceremony last week says her action was a matter of life and death. Wang Wenyi said Wednesday she could not pass up an opportunity to confront Hu and President Bush over claims that China is removing organs from living members of the Falun Gong spiritual movement and selling them. China vehemently denies the accusations. The State Department has said it takes the charges seriously but has found no evidence they are true. "The two national leaders who have the best chance at stopping this were right in front of me," said Wang, a Falun Gong practitioner. "Where else I could have a chance like this? ... How could I not speak out at that moment? Hu Jintao needs to hear this, for his own sake, for the sake of Chinese people." For several minutes during the White House ceremony, Wang screamed in English and Chinese, urging Bush to "stop him (Hu) from killing." The incident was an embarrassment for the Bush administration, and Bush later apologized to Hu. Wang, who was admitted to the ceremony as a reporter for the Falun Gong-affiliated newspaper The Epoch Times, has been charged in federal court with a misdemeanor of intimidating, coercing, threatening and harassing a foreign official. If convicted, she could be jailed for up to six months and ordered to pay a $5,000 fine. Chinese officials say Falun Gong, which attracted millions of followers in the 1990s with its mix of traditional Chinese beliefs and slow-motion exercise, is a cult intent on sabotaging ties between Washington and Beijing. Falun Gong was banned on the mainland in 1999 as a threat to public order and communist rule. Thousands of practitioners were detained. When Wang was asked Wednesday if her outburst at the White House had compromised her status as a reporter, she said: "No matter what kind of title I have ... I consider I'm a human being first. So humanity surpasses everything when you see people being killed." Officials for The Epoch Times have said they did not know that Wang was intending to disrupt the White House ceremony. State Department officials say they have urged China to investigate the organ removal claims and "remain concerned over China's repression of Falun Gong practitioners." Copyright � 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. The information contained in the AP News report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press. Copyright � 2006 Yahoo! Inc. All rights reserved.

Source: Yahoo News

Look the gov selling organs is not that bad. I mean there are 1.3billion people there and if you take the organs of lets say 25mil you would really help the rest of the world which really need organs i.e. USA

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid Look the gov selling organs is not that bad. I mean there are 1.3billion people there and if you take the organs of lets say 25mil you would really help the rest of the world which really need organs i.e. USA

Yes and after the guy in need of an organ gets out of hospital he can put his brand new "made in china organ" to use and go to wal-mart and buy a made in china t-shirt.

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