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Haha, typical... "I don't understand atheists"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12498143/site/newsweek/

This regular MSNBC columnist happens to be a rabbi.

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12498143/site/newsweek/ This regular MSNBC columnist happens to be a rabbi.

I just thought I didn't believe in God cos that was more plausable and logical than beleiving in God. Hmmm. Maybe that's not the case at all. Maybe I have deep emotional issues that have led to my conclusion?

I hate angry atheists. I hate atheists that make sure you KNOW they are atheist. Seriously, I don't care.

I'm an atheist, and I don't go around with some agenda to destroy religions, like some are doing. I like reading the bible, and I like the teachings of christ. I am against the word god being in the pledge, and on our currency. Any christian should be against the word "God" on our currency as well, and if they aren't, they aren't well versed on the teachings of christ.

im an angry atheist because of morons like him.

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12498143/site/newsweek/ This regular MSNBC columnist happens to be a rabbi.

Okay?

That wasn't an article, it was a collection of random thoughts and tangents.

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Originally posted by Marc Summers I hate angry atheists. I hate atheists that make sure you KNOW they are atheist. Seriously, I don't care. I'm an atheist, and I don't go around with some agenda to destroy religions, like some are doing. I like reading the bible, and I like the teachings of christ. I am against the word god being in the pledge, and on our currency. Any christian should be against the word "God" on our currency as well, and if they aren't, they aren't well versed on the teachings of christ.

so far, my friend, you are the only normal human being i've ever encountered. +!

I thought it was a good rant.

Thanks for posting.

We should make an Athesit poll on PDD... "What type of athesist are you? " a) Angry b) Don't care about nobody c) why can't we all get along

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Originally posted by Yoepus We should make an Athesit poll on PDD... "What type of athesist are you? " a) Angry b) Don't care about nobody c) why can't we all get along

lol

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Originally posted by Yoepus We should make an Athesit poll on PDD... "What type of athesist are you? " a) Angry b) Don't care about nobody c) why can't we all get along

d) A goat.

Why atheists are angry: Dover, Muhammed hysteria, gay marriage ban, witch burnings, condom bans, west bank settlements, genocide in Darfur...
Problem is, religious people stir shit, they stir it hard, and the rest of us are left to face the consequences. Furthermore, religious people have shown over and over again, that once they're in the majority, non-believers gets persecuted mercilessly. From the last two days:

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Muslims who skip Friday prayers can be punished KOTA BARU: Skipping Friday prayers is a major sin for Muslims and it is punishable under the state�s Syariah laws, said Kelantan Bar Committee chairman Datuk Wan Harun Shukri Noordin. Therefore, Muslims in the state must remember that Friday prayers are compulsory, otherwise they can be jailed or fined by the religious authorities, he said yesterday. He was commenting on a recent case in which a Muslim man was fined by the Syariah Court here for not attending the weekly prayers. Wan Harun said Syariah laws may differ slightly between the various states and their religious councils, but skipping Friday prayers was a clear offence in Kelantan and this rule applied to all Muslims working or residing in the state. State Local Government Committee chairman Takiyuddin Hassan said all states had similar legislation stating that it was an offence not to attend Friday prayers, but in Kelantan, the enforcement was more orderly. That was the reason why the man was hauled to court for not going to the mosque on a Friday, he said.

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INDONESIA: GOVERNMENT WANTS NON-MUSLIMS TRIED BY ACHEH ISLAMIC COURT Banda Aceh, 26 April (AKI/Jakarta Post) - The Indonesian government has insisted that Muslims and non-Muslims alike in Nanggroe Aceh Darussalam district of Muslim-devout Aceh province should be tried by a planned Islamic Court. Non-Muslims accused of committing crimes such as theft and adultery, would be tried under the Sharia inspired bylaws, state secretary Yusril Ihza Mahendra told the special committee deliberating a crucial bill on Aceh's future administration. Mahendra, responding to the proposals of several legislators who wanted non-Muslims to be given the freedom to choose under which law they would be tried, said it would only create legal uncertainty. "Should such freedom be given, non-Muslims will certainly choose to be tried under the Criminal Code, because it carries more lenient punishment," Yusril told the hearing, held to discuss the authority of the planned Islamic Court, also known as Mahkamah Sharia. Yusril said that in the case of adultery, non-Muslims who committed adultery with Muslims would undoubtedly opt for trial by Indonesia's penal code, because it was more lenient than stoning or other forms of corporal punishment stipulated under Islamic Law. A number of factions, such as the Christian-based Prosperous Peace Party (PDS) and the Buddhist inspired Indonesian Democratic Party of Struggle (PDI-P), have proposed that non-Muslims be given the freedom to choose under which law they would be tried for ordinary crimes. Yusril said later in the hearing that non-Muslims could be exempted for trial by the Islamic Court only in cases related to domestic matters, such as distribution of wealth as well as business and monetary issues. He added details about the Islamic Court would await the drawing up of more bylaws. "It is these that will decide who will be tried under which law," Yusril said. The court is one of the key elements of the current bill on Aceh's administration required under the landmark peace accord signed last August between separatist rebels from the Free Aceh Movement (GAM) and the Indonesian government that ended a 29 year conflict in the province. Discussions about the Islamic Court and other substantial issues in the Aceh bill have resulted in the Indonesian parliament and the government failing to meet the original March 30 deadline for its passage. Legislators now agree that two more months is a realistic target, especially as there is no longer the intensity of early deliberations. Bylaws dealing with adultery, alcoholism, gambling and obscenity are already on the statute books. Lawmaker Permadi of the PDI-P faction, who is also a member of the special committee, alleged the simmering down of the debates was connected to payments worth 181,550 dollars made to committee members by the interior ministry Permadi, speaking during a meeting with representatives from Aceh Leuser Antara and Aceh Barat Selatan districts, who are seeking the establishment of a new province covering these areas, said the handouts were intended to expedite the deliberation of the bill and "silence" previously vociferous opponents

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Originally posted by Renegade d) A goat.

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Originally posted by trancaholic Why atheists are angry: Dover, Muhammed hysteria, gay marriage ban, witch burnings, condom bans, west bank settlements, genocide in Darfur... Problem is, religious people stir shit, they stir it hard, and the rest of us are left to face the consequences. Furthermore, religious people have shown over and over again, that once they're in the majority, non-believers gets persecuted mercilessly. From the last two days:

What about china? They are officially atheist.

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Originally posted by Renegade d) A goat.

http://objectiveministries.org/kidz/

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My OBJECTIVE is JUST 4 KIDZ! The "z" is for "zealousness," 'cause Jesus wants us to be hot for Him, not lukewarm.

1. I thought suicide bombers were zealous.
2. Hot? I can't comment on this.

Read this.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12440797/site/newsweek/

Apparently Georgia will start teaching the Bible in public schools, using public dollars.

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd Read this. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12440797/site/newsweek/ Apparently Georgia will start teaching the Bible in public schools, using public dollars.

You also forget to mention that is an elective class, so people dont actually have to take it.

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Originally posted by Kapedan You also forget to mention that is an elective class, so people dont actually have to take it.

See what these FUCKS do? I loathe them.

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Originally posted by Kapedan You also forget to mention that is an elective class, so people dont actually have to take it.

It doesn't matter. Unless the class can be demonstrated to be about the objective, critical study of the Bible and is to be taught to students impartially (i.e. there is no element of proselytising), then public money is still being used to promote a specific religious ideology. That, regardless of whether the class is an elective, would be unconstitutional.

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Originally posted by Renegade It doesn't matter. Unless the class can be demonstrated to be about the objective, critical study of the Bible and is to be taught to students impartially (i.e. there is no element of proselytising), then public money is still being used to promote a specific religious ideology. That, regardless of whether the class is an elective, would be unconstitutional.

what he said

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Originally posted by Marc Summers What about china? They are officially atheist.

Yes, and there is no one "angry" at china, or communism for that matter.

WASTING money on gym class is a pretty big waste too. Especially since you NEED gym to graduate. Even if you have a broken bone you still have to go there, and sit there IN YOUR UNIFORM, for 45 minutes. But teaching a class that people (and i'm sure there are tons) would be extremely interesting in, yeah that's a waste of time. That's much different from let's say City University of New York's electives such as MIDI, swimming, tennis, horticulture, certain history electives, etc.

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Originally posted by Lepanto WASTING money on gym class is a pretty big waste too. Especially since you NEED gym to graduate. Even if you have a broken bone you still have to go there, and sit there IN YOUR UNIFORM, for 45 minutes. But teaching a class that people (and i'm sure there are tons) would be extremely interesting in, yeah that's a waste of time. That's much different from let's say City University of New York's electives such as MIDI, swimming, tennis, horticulture, certain history electives, etc.

I'm not arguing against it because I think it's a "waste of money", I'm arguing against it because it's using public funds to promote a specific religious ideology. That, as I said, is unconstitutional.

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Originally posted by Renegade I'm not arguing against it because I think it's a "waste of money", I'm arguing against it because it's using public funds to promote a specific religious ideology. That, as I said, is unconstitutional.

what he said yet again
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You can have a literary class on the Koran or the Bible as strictly an art form, but never a religious class in public institutions, how can you NOT GET it

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Originally posted by Renegade I'm not arguing against it because I think it's a "waste of money", I'm arguing against it because it's using public funds to promote a specific religious ideology. That, as I said, is unconstitutional.

no one is forcing you to take that class, the only people who will are people who are already interested. same as the MIDI program in my school. there's also real music programs such as jazz, theory, rock, classical. saying that is the same as promoting MIDI.

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Originally posted by Lepanto no one is forcing you to take that class, the only people who will are people who are already interested.

WTF - those who are interested will actually be using public dollars on promoting religion which is UNCONSTITUTIONAL and ILLEGAL.

it doesn't matter how many ppl take that class

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Originally posted by Lepanto no one is forcing you to take that class, the only people who will are people who are already interested. same as the MIDI program in my school. there's also real music programs such as jazz, theory, rock, classical. saying that is the same as promoting MIDI.

You're missing the point. If a church wants to set up its own elective classes using money that it has raised itself, then it is free to do so. The point is that public money should not be used to fund classes that promote a specific religious ideology regardless of whether that class is optional or not.

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