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Spanish Language Version Of Star Spangeled Banner

discuss this stupidity

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British music producer Adam Kidron says that when he came up with the idea of a Spanish-language version of the U.S. national anthem, he saw it as an ode to the millions of immigrants seeking a better life. But in the week since Kidron announced the song � which features artists such as Wyclef Jean, hip-hop star Pitbull and Puerto Rican singers Carlos Ponce and Olga Tanon � it has been the target of a fierce backlash. Some Internet bloggers and others are infuriated by the thought of "The Star-Spangled Banner" sung in a language other than English. "Would the French accept people singing the La Marseillaise in English as a sign of French patriotism? Of course not," said Mark Krikorian, head of the Washington-based Center for Immigration Studies, a think tank that supports tighter immigration controls. The initial version of "Nuestro Himno," or "Our Anthem," comes out Friday and uses lyrics based closely on the English-language original, said Kidron, who heads the record label Urban Box Office. Pro-immigration protests are planned around the country for Monday, and the record label is urging Hispanic radio stations nationwide to play the cut at 7 p.m. EDT Friday in a sign of solidarity. A remix to be released in June will contain several lines in English that condemn U.S. immigration laws. Among them: "These kids have no parents, cause all of these mean laws ... let's not start a war with all these hard workers, they can't help where they were born." Bryanna Bevens of Hanford, Calif., who writes for the immigration-focused Web magazine Vdare.com, said the remix particularly upset her. "It's very whiny. If you want to say all those things, by all means, put them on your poster board, but don't put them on the national anthem," she said. Kidron, a U.S. resident for 16 years, maintains the changes are fitting. After all, he notes, American immigrants borrowed the melody of the "Star Spangled Banner" from an English drinking song. "There's no attempt to usurp anything. The intent is to communicate," Kidron said. "I wanted to show my thanks to these people who buy my records and listen to the music we release and do the jobs I don't want to do." Kidron said the song also will be featured on the album "Somos Americanos," which will sell for $10, with $1 going to the National Capital Immigration Coalition, a Washington group. Pitbull, whose real name is Armando Perez, said this country was built by immigrants, and "the meaning of the American dream is in that record: struggle, freedom, opportunity, everything they are trying to shut down on us."

fuck them ********

Let the brown people bashing commence.

patriotism is the true opiate of the people.

i really cant see a problem. if people want to sing a song, they should be able to sing it in any language they choose.

At first I didn't see anything stupid with them singing the 'Star Spangled Banner' in another language because I took this as a mere translation to the English version, which could have been translated in any other language for that matter. But then I read this line:

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"A remix to be released in June will contain several lines in English that condemn U.S. immigration laws. Among them: "These kids have no parents, cause all of these mean laws ... let's not start a war with all these hard workers, they can't help where they were born."

What I thought was an innocent translation turned out to be an immigration agenda. Mind you that I'm Hispanic, but I still don't agree with this song because they have tampered with the original lyrics to to protest a cause unrelated to the 'Star Spangled Banner'.

Godamnit! "Pro-immigration" my ass! When they say that they mean Pro-Illegal Immigration which by definition IS RETARDED!

I can't take these immigration morons anymore, I need to go lay down..

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Originally posted by josh4 Godamnit! "Pro-immigration" my ass! When they say that they mean Pro-Illegal Immigration which by definition IS RETARDED! I can't take these immigration morons anymore, I need to go lay down..

+1 I dont think anyone is anti immigration they are anti ILLEGAL immigration whether thats sneaking in or overstaying your visa.

From a personal stand point I think it's completely ridiculous to have clown rappers like Pitbull remixing any national anthem. If you are going to remix or reconstruct a national anthem, at least do it with musically talented artists, not clown monkeys.

From a general stand point, ignoring who is actually remixing the anthem, it is fine to take something so sensitive like this and add your own twist to it, but to modify the lyrics is just asking for trouble.

this is much ado about nothing considering that this version is not used in any official government acts. the government is not compelling anyone who doesn't want to sing it to do so. this a matter of popular culture and expression in the private sphere and nothing more.

now, does someone want to argue that americans don't have the freedom to alter the lyrics for their own use or for their own enjoyment? well?

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Originally posted by Spacey Orange this is much ado about nothing considering that this version is not used in any official government acts. the government is not compelling anyone who doesn't want to sing it to do so. this a matter of popular culture and expression in the private sphere and nothing more. now, does someone want to argue that americans don't have the freedom to alter the lyrics for their own use or for their own enjoyment? well?

not americans if they are illegal

Hispanics are against the translation in the masses. Its the few idiots and the English Producer who want to abuse of the current situation, so you people dont jump blaming all the inmigrants and the movement, because THEY DONT support the translation of the star spangle banner in any way.. In fact, they want to boycott and there's a massive movement to stop the release of it. This coming from the Hispanic/inmigrant community.

anyone heard the song Star Shpongled Banner?

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Originally posted by Kapedan fuck them ********

Fuck them what?

Anyway, I just finished hearing it. The singers are the following: Olga Ta��n, Gloria Trevi, Reik, Kalimba, Andy Andy, Carlos Ponce, Pitbull, Aventura and Wyclef Jean.

First off, I don't like any of the singers. So that alone is a a sufficient reason to not like the song, even if wasn't Our Anthem. This idea was a bad one, even if the intention was good, and not good for all of course.

this is fucking bullshit.

oh looky here shit for brains.


a spanish version commissioned by congress in 1919!

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BTW

this is still a private matter, not a government mandate, so stfu already.

Has anybody heard the song? I thought they were suppose to play it yesterday.

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Originally posted by Spacey Orange oh looky here shit for brains. a spanish version commissioned by congress in 1919! LINK BTW this is still a private matter, not a government mandate, so stfu already.

you're missing the point. the reason people are upset is because they are using this new anthem as a pro illegal immigration tool. they'll use it at rallies and parades. they are taking something American and reshaping it to suit their interests. they cant do that, only Americans can.

the people who are upset are most likely in the group that feel if you want to be an American you have to a) learn english and b) be patriotic to America and nothing else

not that i completely agree with B.

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid Has anybody heard the song? I thought they were suppose to play it yesterday.

http://www.univision.com/contentroo...tro_himno56.asx

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Originally posted by josh4 the people who are upset are most likely in the group that feel if you want to be an American you have to a) learn english and b) be patriotic to America and nothing else

Then by those two requirements a lot of citizens aren't American. Poor illiterate.

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Originally posted by sensorium Then by those two requirements a lot of citizens aren't American. Poor illiterate.

as long as the base of the language is derived from English, then Americans are willing to make exceptions. notibly, back yards hick and ebonics

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Originally posted by josh4 as long as the base of the language is derived from English, then Americans are willing to make exceptions. notibly, back yards hick and ebonics

So that means I can use Spanglish and be ok in the book of these Americans. Great.

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Originally posted by josh4 you're missing the point. the reason people are upset is because they are using this new anthem as a pro illegal immigration tool. they'll use it at rallies and parades. they are taking something American and reshaping it to suit their interests. they cant do that, only Americans can.

pardon me, but 'the people' (whoever they are) are upset because they are big fat bigot idiots. bigots are just using this as an opportunity to lash out against non-european americans and president bush is just pandering to them. they ought to be ashamed of themselves.

no one is using this version as a pro illegal immigration tool-it was just released yesterday and probably isn't even for sale yet. how in god's green earth can this be used as an anthem? in any case, this version arose probably because several opportunists believed that they can make a quick buck or make a name for themselves. "We Are the World" LINK, this is not.

regarding the comment about reshaping something for their needs: if that is not american virtue or characteristic, i'm not sure what is.

for the last time, this is a matter of free speech. i'm done discussing this invented controversy.

By all means, if they want to seperate and alienate themselves, they can go right ahead.

But don't start whining when some ignorant skin-head comes to your house getting ready to stop your ass.

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Originally posted by Marc Summers By all means, if they want to seperate and alienate themselves, they can go right ahead. But don't start whining when some ignorant skin-head comes to your house getting ready to stop your ass.

That was the dumbest thing I have ever read. Thank you. I thought I was the one who was meant to write down stupid shit but you have really pulled through. Thank you.

So tell me what would stop a skin-head from beating the crap out of someone of a different color or 'race' like you people seem to define it?

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Originally posted by sensorium So that means I can use Spanglish and be ok in the book of these Americans. Great.

well no. if you use spanish then it isnt derived from english

all english and the rest made up from using english

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Originally posted by sensorium Then by those two requirements a lot of citizens aren't American. Poor illiterate.

no, now you are just taking shit out of context. they MUST learn English and americans know how to speak it. maybe they don't spell flavour with a U but they can at least speak with other people who speak English.

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